Undercrown - First Impressions

BlindedByScience · 10-17-2011, 02:46 PM

Got my box of Undercrown Gran Toro's on Saturday:

Smoked one on Sunday afternoon, enjoying the remaining good weather here in the Pacific Northwest. I have really enjoyed both the Liga Privada #9 and the T52 so I was very anxious to try these. Lots of chatter on these, here are some of my first thoughts:

The wrapper on these has a really unusual aroma to it. Maybe just a hint of clove in the background? No, these are not infused smokes, but the wrapper is very different than the usual Fuente / Pepin / Padron aromas that I'm used to.
Pre-light aroma and tastes were subtle, but nicely unique. Hard to pin down....have to get out the flavor wheel and think about it a bit.
The construction was flawless. Draw was spot on, burned like a champ.
I would describe this as a mild to strong cigar, somewhere in the middle. Perhaps not a strong as an LP#9.... certainly not as strong as a Padron Family Reserve #45, for example.
The flavor was nicely unique; have to think that one over a bit. What I can say is that it is certainly NOT like the Padron chocolate / coffee notes I get from those great smokes, nor is it like the pepper / white pepper taste you get from many of the Pepin / Tatuaje smokes. It was....different. In a very nice way. Very unique....very nice.

I'm going to have another tonight and try to elucidate my thoughts better. What more can I say other than I think Drew Estate hit this one out of the park. Easy to recommend buying one and finding out for yourself what you think....it is really a good one....

Cheers, guys - N.F.H.

elderboy02 · 10-17-2011, 02:50 PM

I had one the other day and really enjoyed it!

Mikess · 10-17-2011, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by elderboy02

I had one the other day and really enjoyed it!

Did you sense the clove smell as well?

Blak Smyth · 10-17-2011, 02:57 PM

Thanks for the review!
I might smoke one tonight!

Boz · 10-17-2011, 03:00 PM

Thanks for the review.

I need to get out and see if I can find some locally.

RatherUneek · 10-17-2011, 03:06 PM

I smoked on last night that I bought at a local B&M and it was hard to keep lit. I think the humidity was kept too high there and it needed to sit a while but I just couldn't help myself. The draw started off good, then got really hard to get any smoke, then improved a bit but started to go out quickly. The good news is that I absolutely loved the flavors I was getting. Very sweet in my opinion. I will definitely be buying more and letting them get some rest. If that fixes the burn issues I had, which I'm pretty sure it will, the Undercrown will have plenty of space in my humi. Can't wait to hear your follow up as far as the flavor profile.

10-17-2011, 05:12 PM

Can't wait to try an Undercrown; hoping it will be a cheaper substitue for my constant Liga Privada cravings.

emopunker2004 · 10-17-2011, 05:16 PM

I loved the belicoso that I smoked.

deadrise · 10-17-2011, 05:22 PM

very good review got to get me some of these

MrClean · 10-17-2011, 06:28 PM

Got 2 resting in the humi, trying to resist the urge for a couple of weeks. Might go back to the B&M and get another to smoke right there and decide if I want to buy more.

maninblack · 10-17-2011, 06:35 PM

I loved the robusto I smoked last night. Some minor burn issues but loved the flavor profile.

SteelCityBoy · 10-17-2011, 06:40 PM

Smoked my first one this past Sunday and I was really digging it! I will be searching out more of these smokes for sure! Having recently tried my first
LP9 I wasn't sure what to expect from the Undercrown but it definately delivered on expectations! Much like you stated, I too had a hard time defining the flavors....but I know one thing, I LOVED THEM!

Great smoke!

emopunker2004 · 10-17-2011, 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maninblack

I loved the robusto I smoked last night. Some minor burn issues but loved the flavor profile.

I love the Beli. I'll be picking up a Robusto tomorrow to smoke out at the beach

HollywoodQue · 10-18-2011, 02:50 AM

Sounds like a great cigar to try......thanks

elderboy02 · 10-18-2011, 05:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikess

Did you sense the clove smell as well?

I have no idea what cloves smell like.

jledou · 10-18-2011, 06:05 AM

A good cigar that gets better the further you smoke into. Something that is worth trying if you run across them.

BeerAdvocate · 10-18-2011, 08:02 AM

What is the price point on these?

irratebass · 10-18-2011, 08:27 AM

I haven't had any LP's yet, will have to seek these out.

10-18-2011, 08:42 AM

I'm still waiting on my UC Fiver to hit. I forgot what shop I ordered from, but they sure are taking their sweet time...

BlindedByScience · 10-18-2011, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeerAdvocate

What is the price point on these?

Found on line:

Robusto 5 x 50 ($7.45 MSRP)
Gran Toro 6 x 52 ($7.95 MSRP)
Belicoso 6 x 52 ($8.45 MSRP)
Corona Doble 7 x 54 ($8.95 MSRP)
Gordito 6 x 60 ($9.95 MSRP)

10-17-2011, 02:46 PM	#1
BlindedByScience Proud USMC Dad Join Date: Feb 2011 First Name: Tom Location: Vancouver WA Posts: 237 Trading: (0)	Undercrown - First Impressions Got my box of Undercrown Gran Toro's on Saturday: Smoked one on Sunday afternoon, enjoying the remaining good weather here in the Pacific Northwest. I have really enjoyed both the Liga Privada #9 and the T52 so I was very anxious to try these. Lots of chatter on these, here are some of my first thoughts: The wrapper on these has a really unusual aroma to it. Maybe just a hint of clove in the background? No, these are not infused smokes, but the wrapper is very different than the usual Fuente / Pepin / Padron aromas that I'm used to. Pre-light aroma and tastes were subtle, but nicely unique. Hard to pin down....have to get out the flavor wheel and think about it a bit. The construction was flawless. Draw was spot on, burned like a champ. I would describe this as a mild to strong cigar, somewhere in the middle. Perhaps not a strong as an LP#9.... certainly not as strong as a Padron Family Reserve #45, for example. The flavor was nicely unique; have to think that one over a bit. What I can say is that it is certainly NOT like the Padron chocolate / coffee notes I get from those great smokes, nor is it like the pepper / white pepper taste you get from many of the Pepin / Tatuaje smokes. It was....different. In a very nice way. Very unique....very nice. I'm going to have another tonight and try to elucidate my thoughts better. What more can I say other than I think Drew Estate hit this one out of the park. Easy to recommend buying one and finding out for yourself what you think....it is really a good one.... Cheers, guys - N.F.H. __________________ "They that give up essential liberty to obtain temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin

10-17-2011, 02:50 PM	#2
elderboy02 Lets Go Buckeyes! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dan Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 12,509 Trading: (133)	Re: Undercrown - First Impressions I had one the other day and really enjoyed it!

10-17-2011, 03:00 PM	#5
Boz In Vino Veritas Join Date: Jun 2011 First Name: William Location: Nashville, Tn Posts: 1,544 Trading: (18)	Re: Undercrown - First Impressions Thanks for the review. I need to get out and see if I can find some locally. __________________ The snozzberries taste like snozzberries.

10-17-2011, 03:06 PM	#6
RatherUneek Still Watching My Back Join Date: Nov 2010 First Name: Rich Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 69 Trading: (2)	Re: Undercrown - First Impressions I smoked on last night that I bought at a local B&M and it was hard to keep lit. I think the humidity was kept too high there and it needed to sit a while but I just couldn't help myself. The draw started off good, then got really hard to get any smoke, then improved a bit but started to go out quickly. The good news is that I absolutely loved the flavors I was getting. Very sweet in my opinion. I will definitely be buying more and letting them get some rest. If that fixes the burn issues I had, which I'm pretty sure it will, the Undercrown will have plenty of space in my humi. Can't wait to hear your follow up as far as the flavor profile.

10-17-2011, 05:12 PM	#7
LigaPrivadaT84 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Undercrown - First Impressions Can't wait to try an Undercrown; hoping it will be a cheaper substitue for my constant Liga Privada cravings.

10-17-2011, 02:57 PM	#4
Blak Smyth Think Blue! Join Date: Jun 2011 First Name: SD Location: THE WOOD Posts: 8,486 Trading: (52)	Re: Undercrown - First Impressions Thanks for the review! I might smoke one tonight! __________________ SUPPORT OUR TROOPS

10-17-2011, 05:16 PM	#8
emopunker2004 Central Fla rollin Join Date: Jan 2011 First Name: Justin Location: Winter Springs, FL Posts: 6,171 Trading: (46)	Re: Undercrown - First Impressions I loved the belicoso that I smoked. __________________ Cigar Asylum: Where all are equal, unless you are from CA, then you are more equal.

10-17-2011, 05:22 PM	#9
deadrise The Manhattan Project Join Date: Sep 2011 First Name: Jason Location: Reedville Virginia Posts: 1,001 Trading: (24)	Re: Undercrown - First Impressions very good review got to get me some of these __________________

10-17-2011, 06:28 PM	#10
MrClean Bald Man Join Date: Sep 2011 First Name: Jeff Location: KC MO Posts: 2,229 Trading: (28)	Re: Undercrown - First Impressions Got 2 resting in the humi, trying to resist the urge for a couple of weeks. Might go back to the B&M and get another to smoke right there and decide if I want to buy more. __________________ http://jeffcarrollphotos.com Not a photographer, just a dude with a camera. Proud member of the GMCGTPWHAFA

10-17-2011, 06:35 PM	#11
maninblack Will smoke for food Join Date: Jan 2010 First Name: Kevin Location: Where the hoot owls f$ck the chickens Posts: 10,637 Trading: (80)	Re: Undercrown - First Impressions I loved the robusto I smoked last night. Some minor burn issues but loved the flavor profile. __________________ Proud member of the GMCGTPWHAFA

10-17-2011, 06:40 PM	#12
SteelCityBoy 7th Heaven Will Commeth!! Join Date: Sep 2011 First Name: Ken Location: * THE WOOD * -Cigar Zombies- Posts: 1,236 Trading: (21)	Re: Undercrown - First Impressions Smoked my first one this past Sunday and I was really digging it! I will be searching out more of these smokes for sure! Having recently tried my first LP9 I wasn't sure what to expect from the Undercrown but it definately delivered on expectations! Much like you stated, I too had a hard time defining the flavors....but I know one thing, I LOVED THEM! Great smoke! __________________ It's Just THIS Easy To Help Out The Troops

10-18-2011, 02:50 AM	#14
HollywoodQue Invictus Join Date: Oct 2010 First Name: Howard Location: In the "D" Posts: 3,123 Trading: (46)	Re: Undercrown - First Impressions Sounds like a great cigar to try......thanks

10-18-2011, 06:05 AM	#16
jledou Have My Own Room Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Jay Location: Kansas Posts: 2,225 Trading: (27)	Re: Undercrown - First Impressions A good cigar that gets better the further you smoke into. Something that is worth trying if you run across them.

10-18-2011, 08:02 AM	#17
BeerAdvocate BeerHunter Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: Travis Location: Topeka, KS Posts: 1,912 Trading: (45)	Re: Undercrown - First Impressions What is the price point on these? __________________ *I Brew the Beer I Drink*

10-18-2011, 08:27 AM	#18
irratebass EMPEROR TOMPKINS Join Date: Aug 2011 First Name: Mickey Location: Mooresville, Indiana Posts: 8,313 Trading: (48)	Re: Undercrown - First Impressions I haven't had any LP's yet, will have to seek these out. __________________

10-18-2011, 08:42 AM	#19
Lonely Raven Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Undercrown - First Impressions I'm still waiting on my UC Fiver to hit. I forgot what shop I ordered from, but they sure are taking their sweet time...