600,000 People die a year from........

BigFrank · 11-26-2010, 09:26 PM

Second hand smoke

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...ear_study.html

great

nick2021 · 11-26-2010, 09:34 PM

Personally, I think there are worse things that can kill an individual...after finishing my recent deployment, I thought about this for some time.... I think people lose sight of the bigger picture...just my 2 cents..

hotreds · 11-26-2010, 09:35 PM

Everyone who reads the NY Daily News will die.

larryinlc · 11-26-2010, 09:38 PM

Not to sound insensitive to those who have suffered, but how many people don't die every year from second hand smoke?

Ken · 11-26-2010, 10:08 PM

Ok, so if 600,000 people are dying from second hand smoke shouldn't the amount of people dying from 1st hand smoke be 10 fold. I've always had a hard time buying these numbers. Do they account for polution, family history, or personal health?

Bill86 · 11-26-2010, 10:22 PM

Who are these 600,000 people that are getting so much 2nd hand smoke THEY DIE. I'm thinking these numbers are completely made up.

There's a million things you can die from...what are you going to do live in a bubble?

MajorCaptSilly · 11-26-2010, 10:27 PM

Check out Joe Jackson's take on the secondhand smoke issue. You can download the PDF via the button close to the top of the page:

http://www.joejackson.com/smoking.php

MCS

MedicCook · 11-26-2010, 10:39 PM

I plan on dieing from 1st hand smoke.

Did you know the number one cause of death is breathing air? Every person who has every taken a breath of air has died. Maybe we should ban breathing.

forgop · 11-26-2010, 10:40 PM

I'm still waiting for scientists to perform a study to determine the overwhelming #1 cause of death: BIRTH.

Subvet642 · 11-27-2010, 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken

Ok, so if 600,000 people are dying from second hand smoke shouldn't the amount of people dying from 1st hand smoke be 10 fold. I've always had a hard time buying these numbers. Do they account for polution, family history, or personal health?

Radon?

mosesbotbol · 11-27-2010, 07:30 AM

Bunch of BS to say 2nd hand smoked "caused" those deaths. So much for real science and statistics.

BigFrank · 11-27-2010, 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken

Ok, so if 600,000 people are dying from second hand smoke shouldn't the amount of people dying from 1st hand smoke be 10 fold. I've always had a hard time buying these numbers. Do they account for polution, family history, or personal health?

Those were my thoughts exactly. We all know the "research" is probably government funded. So during the next congressional session a new tax will placed on tobacco due to "overwhelming" research in regards to how dangerous tobacco really is!!!

thebayratt · 11-27-2010, 09:42 AM

Second hand smoke.......... that may also include those overpopulated areas that have 23gazillion smoke producing vehicles too....
Think about it, you ever see the car infront of you thats smoking more, sitting there, than you do in a whole month? Thats "second hand" smoke too i bet!

People come by me sometimes and say "eww second hand smoke!!" I look at them and say, "Its a free country, so you are free to walk your ass on down the street".

MajorCaptSilly · 11-27-2010, 09:51 AM

BTW: My mom smoked 2 packs of cigs a day while pregnant with my brother and I. I'm 6'5'' and he is 6'6''. We lived in secondhand smoke until we moved out of the house. I smoked cigs for about 5 years. I have no problems other than sinus issues because of the way my head is built. The operative word on having health issues from smoking is "predisposed". If you are predisposed to have problems you will. If you show moderation in use and are not predisposed to having problems, your risk is too low to worry about.

MCS

ProBe · 11-27-2010, 09:56 AM

I hate BS like this.

MajorCaptSilly · 11-27-2010, 10:04 AM

BTW #2: They are using this study to expand already intrusive smoking bans in the US. Indiana is on the bandwagon for a complete ban in public places.

MCS

cmitch · 11-27-2010, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Subvet642

Radon?

And there is NO WAY 600,000 dying from second hand smoke can be proven. However, Radon gas has been linked as the silent killer.

Knip23 · 11-27-2010, 11:05 AM

Well today in the news, random person gets hit by a car and dies. Mind you they person was not useing the crosswalk, bc someone was smokeing while walking on the crosswalk. Driver 0. 2nd HAND SMOKE +1.

Knip.

11-27-2010, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by forgop

I'm still waiting for scientists to perform a study to determine the overwhelming #1 cause of death: BIRTH.

lol

SvilleKid · 11-27-2010, 12:04 PM

If you read the article carefully, you will see that the 600,000 number is a scientific estimate. It's NOT based on any REAL number, and can't be proven. IMO, just another way for the various money-grabbers to scare everyone into doing what they want. Just like the smoking bans based on "second-hand" smoke are ALL base on one, single study from the past, that has never been proven as true in any subsequent studies!! It's ALL based on what some PAID scientist said, and I have NO respect for scientist these days. Too much that is called scientific fact is simply a scientist who is paid to achieve a stated conclusion!!!!

11-26-2010, 09:35 PM	#3
hotreds Ephesians 2:8 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5 miles past "Resume Speed" Posts: 11,665 Trading: (63)	Re: 600,000 People die a year from........ Everyone who reads the NY Daily News will die. __________________ God loves you so much, that he made you read this, just to let you know.

11-26-2010, 09:38 PM	#4
larryinlc Angry Packer Fan Join Date: Feb 2009 First Name: Larry Location: Starvalley Posts: 325 Trading: (15)	Re: 600,000 People die a year from........ Not to sound insensitive to those who have suffered, but how many people don't die every year from second hand smoke?

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Ken Still Watching My Back Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: New Albany, In Posts: 241 Trading: (0)	Re: 600,000 People die a year from........ Ok, so if 600,000 people are dying from second hand smoke shouldn't the amount of people dying from 1st hand smoke be 10 fold. I've always had a hard time buying these numbers. Do they account for polution, family history, or personal health?

11-26-2010, 10:22 PM	#6
Bill86 Snob Join Date: Jul 2010 First Name: Bill Posts: 6,704 Trading: (67)	Re: 600,000 People die a year from........ Who are these 600,000 people that are getting so much 2nd hand smoke THEY DIE. I'm thinking these numbers are completely made up. There's a million things you can die from...what are you going to do live in a bubble?

11-26-2010, 10:27 PM	#7
MajorCaptSilly Sklee Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Location: Mishawaka, IN Posts: 2,523 Trading: (30)	Re: 600,000 People die a year from........ Check out Joe Jackson's take on the secondhand smoke issue. You can download the PDF via the button close to the top of the page: http://www.joejackson.com/smoking.php MCS __________________ Pillsbury, Minneapolis, Prince, Spoon Bridge and Cherry, coinkydink?

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BigFrank 5 3 1 Join Date: Nov 2008 First Name: Frank Location: Gym or Sofa. Posts: 1,896 Trading: (25)	600,000 People die a year from........ Second hand smoke http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...ear_study.html great __________________ " Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment. "

11-26-2010, 09:34 PM	#2
nick2021 Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 436 Trading: (17)	Re: 600,000 People die a year from........ Personally, I think there are worse things that can kill an individual...after finishing my recent deployment, I thought about this for some time.... I think people lose sight of the bigger picture...just my 2 cents.. __________________ It's one thing to be stupid, it's dangerous for a stupid person to think he's smart!

11-26-2010, 10:39 PM	#8
MedicCook Mila smoked my cigar Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Ryan Location: Schaghticoke, NY Posts: 10,946 Trading: (7)	Re: 600,000 People die a year from........ I plan on dieing from 1st hand smoke. Did you know the number one cause of death is breathing air? Every person who has every taken a breath of air has died. Maybe we should ban breathing. __________________ 27 World Series Championship's "If your wife doesn't like the aroma of your cigar, change your wife.", Zino Davidoff

11-26-2010, 10:40 PM	#9
forgop Not a puffer Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Duane Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 2,869 Trading: (40)	Re: 600,000 People die a year from........ I'm still waiting for scientists to perform a study to determine the overwhelming #1 cause of death: BIRTH.

11-27-2010, 07:30 AM	#11
mosesbotbol That's a Corgi Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Moses Location: Boston Posts: 6,171 Trading: (6)	Re: 600,000 People die a year from........ Bunch of BS to say 2nd hand smoked "caused" those deaths. So much for real science and statistics. __________________ Port Wine & Claret \| British Cars \| Welsh Corgi's

11-27-2010, 09:42 AM	#13
thebayratt Still Watching My Ash Join Date: Jan 2010 First Name: Shawn Location: Mississippi Posts: 1,326 Trading: (11)	Re: 600,000 People die a year from........ Second hand smoke.......... that may also include those overpopulated areas that have 23gazillion smoke producing vehicles too.... Think about it, you ever see the car infront of you thats smoking more, sitting there, than you do in a whole month? Thats "second hand" smoke too i bet! People come by me sometimes and say "eww second hand smoke!!" I look at them and say, "Its a free country, so you are free to walk your ass on down the street".

11-27-2010, 09:51 AM	#14
MajorCaptSilly Sklee Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Location: Mishawaka, IN Posts: 2,523 Trading: (30)	Re: 600,000 People die a year from........ BTW: My mom smoked 2 packs of cigs a day while pregnant with my brother and I. I'm 6'5'' and he is 6'6''. We lived in secondhand smoke until we moved out of the house. I smoked cigs for about 5 years. I have no problems other than sinus issues because of the way my head is built. The operative word on having health issues from smoking is "predisposed". If you are predisposed to have problems you will. If you show moderation in use and are not predisposed to having problems, your risk is too low to worry about. MCS __________________ Pillsbury, Minneapolis, Prince, Spoon Bridge and Cherry, coinkydink?

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ProBe Still Watching My Back Join Date: Jun 2009 First Name: Jose Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 140 Trading: (0)	Re: 600,000 People die a year from........ I hate BS like this. __________________ Love The Life You Live, Live The Life You Love. K Robbins

11-27-2010, 10:04 AM	#16
MajorCaptSilly Sklee Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Location: Mishawaka, IN Posts: 2,523 Trading: (30)	Re: 600,000 People die a year from........ BTW #2: They are using this study to expand already intrusive smoking bans in the US. Indiana is on the bandwagon for a complete ban in public places. MCS __________________ Pillsbury, Minneapolis, Prince, Spoon Bridge and Cherry, coinkydink?

11-27-2010, 11:05 AM	#18
Knip23 Keep It Simple Join Date: Dec 2009 First Name: Destrey Location: Ft. Polk/ Leesville Posts: 545 Trading: (10)	Re: 600,000 People die a year from........ Well today in the news, random person gets hit by a car and dies. Mind you they person was not useing the crosswalk, bc someone was smokeing while walking on the crosswalk. Driver 0. 2nd HAND SMOKE +1. Knip. __________________ Leave No Cigar unsmoked!

11-27-2010, 12:04 PM	#20
SvilleKid Yes I am a Pirate Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 33°46′08″N 86°28′16″W / 33.76895°N 86.471037°W Posts: 2,776 Trading: (52)	Re: 600,000 People die a year from........ If you read the article carefully, you will see that the 600,000 number is a scientific estimate. It's NOT based on any REAL number, and can't be proven. IMO, just another way for the various money-grabbers to scare everyone into doing what they want. Just like the smoking bans based on "second-hand" smoke are ALL base on one, single study from the past, that has never been proven as true in any subsequent studies!! It's ALL based on what some PAID scientist said, and I have NO respect for scientist these days. Too much that is called scientific fact is simply a scientist who is paid to achieve a stated conclusion!!!! __________________ Ceilin' fan it stirs the air, Cigar smoke does swirl. The fragrance on the pillow case, and he thinks about the girl. Thanks, JB, 1975.