Don't Talk to the Police.

07-25-2009, 09:04 AM

With all due respect to those in law enforcement...

It's a bit long, but I found it to be very interesting and informative.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc

The officers presentation that follows the lawyer's is pretty good too.

kydsid · 07-25-2009, 10:08 AM

No offense taken, I'll never give up my 4th or 5th Amendment right for any reason. I have seen the consequences. Doesn't mean I won't still ask someone else to give up theirs.

I lol'ed at the Lacey Act point. That has always been one of my favorite federal laws. hehe

07-25-2009, 10:28 AM

And people WONDER why we use the ""I can neither confirm nor deny"" statement when we are questioned!!!

Volt · 07-25-2009, 04:47 PM

Proff. Duane's video and Officer Burke's video have floated around the biker community for awhile. I will not get into my opinions and stereotyping, but after watching both if your eyes should be opened a bit. Damn good advice from him and teh officer.

shilala · 07-25-2009, 05:07 PM

I was once questioned in a murder case that turned out to be a drug overdose.
I didn't know the girl, but I knew her husband who had just gotten out of jail and had run into him at a convenience store a couple days before she turned up dead.
An Investigator came to my house, I asked a bunch of questions, told him I did run into the guy and didn't remember what we talked about.
I then told him "I don't have any hard evidence, but I'm pretty sure my ex-wife did it."
She never went to jail, but it was worth a shot.
True story.

Tenor CS · 07-25-2009, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by shilala

I then told him "I don't have any hard evidence, but I'm pretty sure my ex-wife did it."

A for effort, sir.

G G · 07-25-2009, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Tenor CS

A for effort, sir.

And for some reason I don't have a hard time believing that Scott.

07-25-2009, 07:43 PM

I have seen this before but I always end up watching it when it is posted. I'm not a trouble maker by any mark but this just makes me feel "safer" or smarter. Woner though if I'll ever get the chance to use it or if I will ever remember it when needed.

shilala · 07-25-2009, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Tenor CS

A for effort, sir.

I even gave him her address and phone number, Christian.
I felt it was the least I could do.

Tenor CS · 07-25-2009, 08:09 PM

At least he didn't break your balls by taking you too seriously and then trumping up a charge of giving false information to an officer or something.

In the same vein, what do you guys think of THIS VIDEO? Deals with a similar topic.

Volt · 07-25-2009, 08:36 PM

That one has been around as well. I like the Professor and the cop ones better, they speak at a different level. While this one may work better with younger folks. When i get pulled over I only have 4 things to say.

1. Why did you pull me over?
2. Am I under arrest?
3. Am I free to go?

Any thing else is chit chat and as the Prof. noted, cannot ever do me any good.

If asked to search, I refuse without a search warrant. Always polite, but firm in not giving up my rights. Spent 20 years of my ensuring they are available to me.

ucla695 · 07-25-2009, 10:51 PM

Just reaffirms what I know. Thanks for posting.

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Originally Posted by Volt

That one has been around as well. I like the Professor and the cop ones better, they speak at a different level. While this one may work better with younger folks. When i get pulled over I only have 4 things to say.

1. Why did you pull me over?
2. Am I under arrest?
3. Am I free to go?

Any thing else is chit chat and as the Prof. noted, cannot ever do me any good.

If asked to search, I refuse without a search warrant. Always polite, but firm in not giving up my rights. Spent 20 years of my ensuring they are available to me.

Great advice. If they insist on searching, remember to always ask them to articulate their probable cause and still deny w/o warrant.

07-25-2009, 09:04 AM	#1
nozero Guest Posts: n/a	Don't Talk to the Police. With all due respect to those in law enforcement... It's a bit long, but I found it to be very interesting and informative. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc The officers presentation that follows the lawyer's is pretty good too.

07-25-2009, 10:08 AM	#2
kydsid Ditat Deus Join Date: Apr 2009 First Name: Jason Location: Among the Pines Posts: 2,361 Trading: (46)	Re: Don't Talk to the Police. No offense taken, I'll never give up my 4th or 5th Amendment right for any reason. I have seen the consequences. Doesn't mean I won't still ask someone else to give up theirs. I lol'ed at the Lacey Act point. That has always been one of my favorite federal laws. hehe Last edited by kydsid; 07-25-2009 at 10:14 AM.

07-25-2009, 10:28 AM	#3
tobii3 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Don't Talk to the Police. And people WONDER why we use the ""I can neither confirm nor deny"" statement when we are questioned!!!

07-25-2009, 04:47 PM	#4
Volt I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,799 Trading: (19)	Re: Don't Talk to the Police. Proff. Duane's video and Officer Burke's video have floated around the biker community for awhile. I will not get into my opinions and stereotyping, but after watching both if your eyes should be opened a bit. Damn good advice from him and teh officer. __________________ Curing the infection... One bullet at a time.

07-25-2009, 05:07 PM	#5
shilala Dear Lord, Thank You. Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Posts: 13,721 Trading: (252)	Re: Don't Talk to the Police. I was once questioned in a murder case that turned out to be a drug overdose. I didn't know the girl, but I knew her husband who had just gotten out of jail and had run into him at a convenience store a couple days before she turned up dead. An Investigator came to my house, I asked a bunch of questions, told him I did run into the guy and didn't remember what we talked about. I then told him "I don't have any hard evidence, but I'm pretty sure my ex-wife did it." She never went to jail, but it was worth a shot. True story. __________________

07-25-2009, 07:43 PM	#8
Aldebaran Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Don't Talk to the Police. I have seen this before but I always end up watching it when it is posted. I'm not a trouble maker by any mark but this just makes me feel "safer" or smarter. Woner though if I'll ever get the chance to use it or if I will ever remember it when needed.

07-25-2009, 08:09 PM	#10
Tenor CS Feeling Better! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Christian Location: Davenport, FL (near Orlando) Posts: 717 Trading: (2)	Re: Don't Talk to the Police. At least he didn't break your balls by taking you too seriously and then trumping up a charge of giving false information to an officer or something. In the same vein, what do you guys think of THIS VIDEO? Deals with a similar topic. __________________ When the world itself seems lunatic, who knows where madness lies?

07-25-2009, 08:36 PM	#11
Volt I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,799 Trading: (19)	Re: Don't Talk to the Police. That one has been around as well. I like the Professor and the cop ones better, they speak at a different level. While this one may work better with younger folks. When i get pulled over I only have 4 things to say. 1. Why did you pull me over? 2. Am I under arrest? 3. Am I free to go? Any thing else is chit chat and as the Prof. noted, cannot ever do me any good. If asked to search, I refuse without a search warrant. Always polite, but firm in not giving up my rights. Spent 20 years of my ensuring they are available to me. __________________ Curing the infection... One bullet at a time. Last edited by Volt; 07-25-2009 at 08:45 PM.