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nozero 07-25-2009 08:04 AM

Don't Talk to the Police.
 
With all due respect to those in law enforcement...

It's a bit long, but I found it to be very interesting and informative.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc

The officers presentation that follows the lawyer's is pretty good too.

kydsid 07-25-2009 09:08 AM

Re: Don't Talk to the Police.
 
No offense taken, I'll never give up my 4th or 5th Amendment right for any reason. I have seen the consequences. Doesn't mean I won't still ask someone else to give up theirs. :D

I lol'ed at the Lacey Act point. That has always been one of my favorite federal laws. hehe

tobii3 07-25-2009 09:28 AM

Re: Don't Talk to the Police.
 
And people WONDER why we use the ""I can neither confirm nor deny"" statement when we are questioned!!!

Volt 07-25-2009 03:47 PM

Re: Don't Talk to the Police.
 
Proff. Duane's video and Officer Burke's video have floated around the biker community for awhile. I will not get into my opinions and stereotyping, but after watching both if your eyes should be opened a bit. Damn good advice from him and teh officer.

shilala 07-25-2009 04:07 PM

Re: Don't Talk to the Police.
 
I was once questioned in a murder case that turned out to be a drug overdose.
I didn't know the girl, but I knew her husband who had just gotten out of jail and had run into him at a convenience store a couple days before she turned up dead.
An Investigator came to my house, I asked a bunch of questions, told him I did run into the guy and didn't remember what we talked about.
I then told him "I don't have any hard evidence, but I'm pretty sure my ex-wife did it."
She never went to jail, but it was worth a shot.
True story. :)

Tenor CS 07-25-2009 05:45 PM

Re: Don't Talk to the Police.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shilala (Post 479808)
I then told him "I don't have any hard evidence, but I'm pretty sure my ex-wife did it."

A for effort, sir.

G G 07-25-2009 06:12 PM

Re: Don't Talk to the Police.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tenor CS (Post 479893)
A for effort, sir.

:tpd:And for some reason I don't have a hard time believing that Scott.:tu

Aldebaran 07-25-2009 06:43 PM

Re: Don't Talk to the Police.
 
I have seen this before but I always end up watching it when it is posted. I'm not a trouble maker by any mark but this just makes me feel "safer" or smarter. Woner though if I'll ever get the chance to use it or if I will ever remember it when needed.

shilala 07-25-2009 06:53 PM

Re: Don't Talk to the Police.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tenor CS (Post 479893)
A for effort, sir.

I even gave him her address and phone number, Christian.
I felt it was the least I could do. :)

Tenor CS 07-25-2009 07:09 PM

Re: Don't Talk to the Police.
 
At least he didn't break your balls by taking you too seriously and then trumping up a charge of giving false information to an officer or something.

In the same vein, what do you guys think of THIS VIDEO? Deals with a similar topic.

Volt 07-25-2009 07:36 PM

Re: Don't Talk to the Police.
 
That one has been around as well. I like the Professor and the cop ones better, they speak at a different level. While this one may work better with younger folks. When i get pulled over I only have 4 things to say.

1. Why did you pull me over?
2. Am I under arrest?
3. Am I free to go?

Any thing else is chit chat and as the Prof. noted, cannot ever do me any good.

If asked to search, I refuse without a search warrant. Always polite, but firm in not giving up my rights. Spent 20 years of my ensuring they are available to me.

ucla695 07-25-2009 09:51 PM

Re: Don't Talk to the Police.
 
Just reaffirms what I know. Thanks for posting.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Volt (Post 479955)
That one has been around as well. I like the Professor and the cop ones better, they speak at a different level. While this one may work better with younger folks. When i get pulled over I only have 4 things to say.

1. Why did you pull me over?
2. Am I under arrest?
3. Am I free to go?

Any thing else is chit chat and as the Prof. noted, cannot ever do me any good.

If asked to search, I refuse without a search warrant. Always polite, but firm in not giving up my rights. Spent 20 years of my ensuring they are available to me.

Great advice. If they insist on searching, remember to always ask them to articulate their probable cause and still deny w/o warrant. :)


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