any problems with keeping cigars at 77F

ZachF88 · 07-07-2010, 10:05 AM

Hey guys,

We are having an unusually war, summer here in NS and the indoor temps have reached 79F. Since it is Canada, no one really has an a/c. So my digi hygro/thermo is reading 77F and 67% rh. Is this alright?

Also, plume or mould?

07-07-2010, 10:06 AM

Yup, that is just fine. You want it below 80˚.

I do not see any mold.

Chingas · 07-07-2010, 10:25 AM

Got some damn fine sticks there brother. Must be nice living in Canada and getting real CC's at the store.

Here's the deal, rumor has it anything over 74 degrees can hatch those nasty little bastards. It's a crapshoot with who you talk to about this but I do believe most will agree anything over 74 is a gamble most are not willing to take.

If you are having trouble keeping them cool during the hot days you could try your B & M and see if they have a locker you could rent for the hot months so your collection dosnt support the habit of some terrible things.

Plume or mold. I see a faint plume. It's a beautiful thing brother. I usually just wipe it off before I light up.

Wish you the best and take care of those beautiful sticks.

RHNewfie · 07-07-2010, 10:31 AM

Nobody here buys CC's at the store! Also, there are no real B&M's here to speak of! Put your cigars in the basement!

T.G · 07-07-2010, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Chingas

Here's the deal, rumor has it anything over 74 degrees can hatch those nasty little bastards. It's a crapshoot with who you talk to about this but I do believe most will agree anything over 74 is a gamble most are not willing to take.

74F is great for the beetles. Anything over 65-66F puts you at risk for hatching. Adults have to fly to mate and at temps less than 71F they won't grow wings so they can't reproduce, but at 74F on the other hand, you'll keep the cycle going.

Here:

http://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/aez/41/1/87/_pdf
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Q6TD74G9

You don't have to read the entire first pdf, just the first section of it. 18C = 68F, assume a about a 2 degree margin of error on your home thermometers (non-NIST calibrated).
Second one is an article from cigar magazine that talks a bit about the temps too.

warren G. · 07-07-2010, 10:52 AM

I feel you on that one..I live in New Orleans. My humidor was 75F and 65-68ish RH. I just get one medium size ice pack and wrap it with a towel and now my Humidor temp/hum is 68-70F/70RH.

md4958 · 07-07-2010, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by RHNewfie

Put your cigars in the basement!

that'd be my suggestion too.

RHNewfie · 07-07-2010, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by md4958

that'd be my suggestion too.

It's 42C with the humidity here today in Ontario and my basement is like an icebox and with the dehumidifier down here it keeps everything great!

warren G. · 07-07-2010, 10:55 AM

I wish I have a basement down here

bobarian · 07-07-2010, 10:57 AM

I dont see a problem if your high temp is 77. Beetles will need sustained temps above 75 for 10-14 days to hatch. If you night time temps drop below 70 you should be fine.

T.G · 07-07-2010, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by T.G

18C = 68F, assume a about a 2 degree margin of error on your home thermometers (non-NIST calibrated).

Oops, that should be 20C = 68F, was thinking one thing and writing another.

T.G · 07-07-2010, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobarian

I dont see a problem if your high temp is 77. Beetles will need sustained temps above 75 for 10-14 days to hatch. If you night time temps drop below 70 you should be fine.

Yet, at 20C (68F) 80% of the eggs hatch within 4 weeks.

07-07-2010, 11:21 AM

Ive kept mine at 76 before (Its Florida what do you expect) and havent had any problems. In some cases it actually accelerates oils rising to the surface if you like that

Skywalker · 07-07-2010, 11:22 AM

VinoTemp with temperature control!

mosesbotbol · 07-07-2010, 11:53 AM

Just make sure to keep them on the dry side until it cools down some.

07-07-2010, 11:53 AM

your better off than I am I'm at 82F / 65% in New York I'm and those are some beautiful smokes

ZachF88 · 07-07-2010, 12:08 PM

Thanks guys for all the nice comments! I have some 5-7 year old montes that I pride myself on. I'll keep an eye on the temp.... I might try using an icepack as I don't have a basement. Hopefully this heat wont last too much longer!

Chingas · 07-07-2010, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Skywalker

VinoTemp with temperature control!

So excited brother. I ordered two that should be here by Friday. No more high temps and crazy rh swings for me.

Skywalker · 07-07-2010, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Chingas

So excited brother. I ordered two that should be here by Friday. No more high temps and crazy rh swings for me.

Make sure to use RH beads!!!

ZachF88 · 07-07-2010, 12:17 PM

RH beads or Boveda packs?

07-07-2010, 10:05 AM	#1
ZachF88 Feeling at Home Join Date: Dec 2009 First Name: Zach Location: Denver, CO Posts: 510 Trading: (32)	any problems with keeping cigars at 77F Hey guys, We are having an unusually war, summer here in NS and the indoor temps have reached 79F. Since it is Canada, no one really has an a/c. So my digi hygro/thermo is reading 77F and 67% rh. Is this alright? Also, plume or mould?

07-07-2010, 10:06 AM	#2
Darrell Guest Posts: n/a	Re: any problems with keeping cigars at 77F Yup, that is just fine. You want it below 80˚. I do not see any mold.

07-07-2010, 10:25 AM	#3
Chingas Death Is Waiting Join Date: Jun 2010 First Name: Chingas Location: Slayerville, Jersey Posts: 5,295 Trading: (35)	Re: any problems with keeping cigars at 77F Got some damn fine sticks there brother. Must be nice living in Canada and getting real CC's at the store. Here's the deal, rumor has it anything over 74 degrees can hatch those nasty little bastards. It's a crapshoot with who you talk to about this but I do believe most will agree anything over 74 is a gamble most are not willing to take. If you are having trouble keeping them cool during the hot days you could try your B & M and see if they have a locker you could rent for the hot months so your collection dosnt support the habit of some terrible things. Plume or mold. I see a faint plume. It's a beautiful thing brother. I usually just wipe it off before I light up. Wish you the best and take care of those beautiful sticks. __________________ ---Chingas--- ---Team Death Bomb Squad: Captain---

07-07-2010, 10:31 AM	#4
RHNewfie Have My Own Room Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Jeff Location: Oooooh Canadaaaaa Posts: 2,007 Trading: (15)	Re: any problems with keeping cigars at 77F Nobody here buys CC's at the store! Also, there are no real B&M's here to speak of! Put your cigars in the basement! __________________ σπένδομαι

07-07-2010, 10:52 AM	#6
warren G. Also a WIS. Join Date: Jun 2010 First Name: Duy Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 209 Trading: (2)	Re: any problems with keeping cigars at 77F I feel you on that one..I live in New Orleans. My humidor was 75F and 65-68ish RH. I just get one medium size ice pack and wrap it with a towel and now my Humidor temp/hum is 68-70F/70RH. __________________ "After a truly good meal, an outstanding cigar is still the most satisfying after-dinner activity that doesn't involve two human beings."

07-07-2010, 10:55 AM	#9
warren G. Also a WIS. Join Date: Jun 2010 First Name: Duy Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 209 Trading: (2)	Re: any problems with keeping cigars at 77F I wish I have a basement down here __________________ "After a truly good meal, an outstanding cigar is still the most satisfying after-dinner activity that doesn't involve two human beings."

07-07-2010, 10:57 AM	#10
bobarian Cranky Habanophile Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Wine Country Posts: 8,869 Trading: (51)	Re: any problems with keeping cigars at 77F I dont see a problem if your high temp is 77. Beetles will need sustained temps above 75 for 10-14 days to hatch. If you night time temps drop below 70 you should be fine.

07-07-2010, 11:21 AM	#13
Eagle53 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: any problems with keeping cigars at 77F Ive kept mine at 76 before (Its Florida what do you expect) and havent had any problems. In some cases it actually accelerates oils rising to the surface if you like that

07-07-2010, 11:22 AM	#14
Skywalker BABOTL Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dice Location: Galaxy Far Far Away Posts: 10,168 Trading: (18)	Re: any problems with keeping cigars at 77F VinoTemp with temperature control! __________________ Smoke what you like!!!

07-07-2010, 11:53 AM	#15
mosesbotbol That's a Corgi Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Moses Location: Boston Posts: 6,171 Trading: (6)	Re: any problems with keeping cigars at 77F Just make sure to keep them on the dry side until it cools down some. __________________ Port Wine & Claret \| British Cars \| Welsh Corgi's

07-07-2010, 11:53 AM	#16
Chinogobraap Guest Posts: n/a	Re: any problems with keeping cigars at 77F your better off than I am I'm at 82F / 65% in New York I'm and those are some beautiful smokes

07-07-2010, 12:08 PM	#17
ZachF88 Feeling at Home Join Date: Dec 2009 First Name: Zach Location: Denver, CO Posts: 510 Trading: (32)	Re: any problems with keeping cigars at 77F Thanks guys for all the nice comments! I have some 5-7 year old montes that I pride myself on. I'll keep an eye on the temp.... I might try using an icepack as I don't have a basement. Hopefully this heat wont last too much longer!

07-07-2010, 12:17 PM	#20
ZachF88 Feeling at Home Join Date: Dec 2009 First Name: Zach Location: Denver, CO Posts: 510 Trading: (32)	Re: any problems with keeping cigars at 77F RH beads or Boveda packs?