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ZachF88 07-07-2010 10:05 AM

any problems with keeping cigars at 77F
 
Hey guys,

We are having an unusually war, summer here in NS and the indoor temps have reached 79F. Since it is Canada, no one really has an a/c. So my digi hygro/thermo is reading 77F and 67% rh. Is this alright?

Also, plume or mould?
http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/1852/img2388l.jpg

Darrell 07-07-2010 10:06 AM

Re: any problems with keeping cigars at 77F
 
Yup, that is just fine. You want it below 80˚. :)

I do not see any mold.

Chingas 07-07-2010 10:25 AM

Re: any problems with keeping cigars at 77F
 
Got some damn fine sticks there brother. Must be nice living in Canada and getting real CC's at the store.

Here's the deal, rumor has it anything over 74 degrees can hatch those nasty little bastards. It's a crapshoot with who you talk to about this but I do believe most will agree anything over 74 is a gamble most are not willing to take.

If you are having trouble keeping them cool during the hot days you could try your B & M and see if they have a locker you could rent for the hot months so your collection dosnt support the habit of some terrible things.

Plume or mold. I see a faint plume. It's a beautiful thing brother. I usually just wipe it off before I light up.

Wish you the best and take care of those beautiful sticks.

RHNewfie 07-07-2010 10:31 AM

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Nobody here buys CC's at the store! Also, there are no real B&M's here to speak of! Put your cigars in the basement!

T.G 07-07-2010 10:39 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chingas (Post 909382)
Here's the deal, rumor has it anything over 74 degrees can hatch those nasty little bastards. It's a crapshoot with who you talk to about this but I do believe most will agree anything over 74 is a gamble most are not willing to take.

74F is great for the beetles. Anything over 65-66F puts you at risk for hatching. Adults have to fly to mate and at temps less than 71F they won't grow wings so they can't reproduce, but at 74F on the other hand, you'll keep the cycle going.

Here:

http://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/aez/41/1/87/_pdf
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Q6TD74G9

You don't have to read the entire first pdf, just the first section of it. 18C = 68F, assume a about a 2 degree margin of error on your home thermometers (non-NIST calibrated).
Second one is an article from cigar magazine that talks a bit about the temps too.

warren G. 07-07-2010 10:52 AM

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I feel you on that one..I live in New Orleans. My humidor was 75F and 65-68ish RH. I just get one medium size ice pack and wrap it with a towel and now my Humidor temp/hum is 68-70F/70RH.

md4958 07-07-2010 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by RHNewfie (Post 909386)
Put your cigars in the basement!

that'd be my suggestion too.

RHNewfie 07-07-2010 10:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by md4958 (Post 909404)
that'd be my suggestion too.

It's 42C with the humidity here today in Ontario and my basement is like an icebox and with the dehumidifier down here it keeps everything great!

warren G. 07-07-2010 10:55 AM

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I wish I have a basement down here :(

bobarian 07-07-2010 10:57 AM

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I dont see a problem if your high temp is 77. Beetles will need sustained temps above 75 for 10-14 days to hatch. If you night time temps drop below 70 you should be fine. :2

T.G 07-07-2010 10:57 AM

Re: any problems with keeping cigars at 77F
 
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Originally Posted by T.G (Post 909392)
18C = 68F, assume a about a 2 degree margin of error on your home thermometers (non-NIST calibrated).

Oops, that should be 20C = 68F, was thinking one thing and writing another.

T.G 07-07-2010 11:04 AM

Re: any problems with keeping cigars at 77F
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bobarian (Post 909408)
I dont see a problem if your high temp is 77. Beetles will need sustained temps above 75 for 10-14 days to hatch. If you night time temps drop below 70 you should be fine. :2

Yet, at 20C (68F) 80% of the eggs hatch within 4 weeks. ;)

Eagle53 07-07-2010 11:21 AM

Re: any problems with keeping cigars at 77F
 
Ive kept mine at 76 before (Its Florida what do you expect) and havent had any problems. In some cases it actually accelerates oils rising to the surface if you like that

Skywalker 07-07-2010 11:22 AM

Re: any problems with keeping cigars at 77F
 
VinoTemp with temperature control!:tu

mosesbotbol 07-07-2010 11:53 AM

Re: any problems with keeping cigars at 77F
 
Just make sure to keep them on the dry side until it cools down some.

Chinogobraap 07-07-2010 11:53 AM

Re: any problems with keeping cigars at 77F
 
your better off than I am I'm at 82F / 65% in New York I'm and those are some beautiful smokes

ZachF88 07-07-2010 12:08 PM

Re: any problems with keeping cigars at 77F
 
Thanks guys for all the nice comments! I have some 5-7 year old montes that I pride myself on. I'll keep an eye on the temp.... I might try using an icepack as I don't have a basement. Hopefully this heat wont last too much longer!

Chingas 07-07-2010 12:12 PM

Re: any problems with keeping cigars at 77F
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Skywalker (Post 909436)
VinoTemp with temperature control!:tu

So excited brother. I ordered two that should be here by Friday. No more high temps and crazy rh swings for me.

Skywalker 07-07-2010 12:13 PM

Re: any problems with keeping cigars at 77F
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chingas (Post 909483)
So excited brother. I ordered two that should be here by Friday. No more high temps and crazy rh swings for me.

Make sure to use RH beads!!!:tu

ZachF88 07-07-2010 12:17 PM

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RH beads or Boveda packs?


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