Motorcyclists and non-riders , I would like opinions on this story

[Nick]

5-0 could have pulled his badge just as easily as his gun. He needs to remember that he's in street clothes and not be pulling guns in these situations.

[jitzy]

Originally Posted by Nick

5-0 could have pulled his badge just as easily as his gun. He needs to remember that he's in street clothes and not be pulling guns in these situations.

sometimes pulling that shield first before the gun could mean life or death.

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by 1badhog07

Personally i think both of them are in the wrong.this so called kid gives legitamate bikers a bad rap,and i think too many cops head swells up when they get a badge and gun.

How does it seem to you that this guy's head is swollen? Nice stereotyping.

Originally Posted by Nick

5-0 could have pulled his badge just as easily as his gun. He needs to remember that he's in street clothes and not be pulling guns in these situations.

Originally Posted by jitzy;831966[B

]sometimes pulling that shield first before the gun could mean life or death[/b].

Exactly, jitzy....and those who haven't lived that reality aren't really credible when commenting on what "5-0" should or shouldn't do.

[1badhog07]

Originally Posted by icehog3

How does it seem to you that this guy's head is swollen? Nice stereotyping.





Exactly, jitzy....and those who haven't lived that reality aren't really credible when commenting on what "5-0" should or shouldn't do.

well tom how do you figure i am sterotyping,as a over-the-road truck driver for over 14 years,i have seen first hand how some cops and dps carry there attitude on there shoulders.NO i am not saying all law enforcement are bad,in fact many of them have went out of there way to help me out when i broke down,and i have a few law enforcement friends here in laredo,so i can only comment on my experiences...

[jitzy]

Originally Posted by 1badhog07

well tom how do you figure i am sterotyping

That was just as much a stereotype as saying "to many" black people steal or "to many" irish guys are drunks thats why its called stereotyping. Look I don't think you hate all cops but your statement was wrong

Originally Posted by jitzy

That was just as much a stereotype as saying "to many" black people steal or "to many" irish guys are drunks thats why its called stereotyping. Look I don't think you hate all cops but your statement was wrong

Maybe this one will better get the point across:

http://www.examiner.com/x-6121-Oklah...ahoma-I40-case

http://www.newcriminologist.com/arti...d=161&nid=2138

[G G]

Originally Posted by jitzy

sometimes pulling that shield first before the gun could mean life or death.

Dang, you beat me to it, that's what I was thinking as I was reading your post. I am not a LEO but I really hate to see the news anymore when the Police are involved in pulling a gun or God forbid having to actually use it. You always see all the folks in the neighborhood commenting on the news that they shouldn't have used force blah blah blah. It's very easy for me to sit here and say what they should have done, but like Tom points out, till you been there, you don't have an appreciation for what these guys have to go through. Just remember most of them have family that they want to get back home to in one piece when the shift is over.

[floydpink]

Greg,

I'll bet as an EMT, you've seen your fair share of motorcyclists scraped off the road.

I have a friend who, ironically, is nicknamed "Lucky". He has been hit 3 times, all of which were not his fault and has two stickers on the windshield of his Heritage Softail.

One says, "crippled old biker bastards", and the second, "It's not the destination, it's the journey", the second I really like and try to practice.

He recently had a helicopter ride to the hospital trauma unit and was hit by an uninsured motorist and has mounting medical bills and a reconstructed shoulder.


At those speeds, you have zero chances of surviving or reacting and will likely take out someone else.



Slow down dude, enjoy the scenery.

[G G]

Originally Posted by floydpink

Greg,

I'll bet as an EMT, you've seen your fair share of motorcyclists scraped off the road.

A few. I ride myself, but not at those speeds. I have never had a gun pulled on me by a police officer either, or even stopped while riding. I guess the crazy cops just don't see that much value in pulling over someone who mostly obeys the traffic laws.

[floydpink]

Originally Posted by ggainey

A few. I ride myself, but not at those speeds. I have never had a gun pulled on me by a police officer either, or even stopped while riding. I guess the crazy cops just don't see that much value in pulling over someone who mostly obeys the traffic laws.

Personally, I think the whole "cops hate bikers" thing is not true and wave to the Sheriffs on Road Kings I see around me and have had no problems with any.

I'm also careful to pass judgement on someone who faces danger and split second decisions every day to protect the public for relatively low pay.

This was the scene of my crime and no cows were harmed by my actions...


The problem on this particular day was Jack's has a rib special on wednesdays and the chimney was smokin, that means they're open, and the ribs don't last long and neither do the beans...

Anyone would have done the same in my situation..

[mithrilG60]

Originally Posted by ggainey

I guess the crazy cops just don't see that much value in pulling over someone who mostly obeys the traffic laws.

Bingo! A fact conveniently lost on, or ignored by, the vast majority bikers and drivers that like to whine and rant on about how much they're targeted by the police who have all developed God/"Wyatt Earp" complexes because they have a badge and gun.

[SeanGAR]

Originally Posted by mithrilG60

Bingo! A fact conveniently lost on, or ignored by, the vast majority bikers and drivers that like to whine and rant on about how much they're targeted by the police who have all developed God/"Wyatt Earp" complexes because they have a badge and gun.

I rode a motorcycle for 20 years, and for 6 as my only motorized transportation.

I was pulled over only once by a cop on my bike, for running a red light, which I did: he gave me a warning (it was yellow just before I entered the intersection).

So in my experience if you don't drive like a maniac on a motorcycle, the cops leave you alone.