Starting to like wine...the Red version

rlmedic · 02-21-2010, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TheRiddick

Moses, it doesn't look we're getting through, seems like for some people here buying wine based on some arbitrary point score in a wine rag is good enough (do they buy cigars same way?).

I keep saying same thing you are about manipulation of wine in OZ, via huge expenditures into chem labs, and no, no one believes even though there is plenty of factual info available if one wants to explore (or is in business like I am and has to know what the competitors are up to). OX wineries are not shy about it, Yellow Tail is the prime example.

Inability of even seasoned palates to ID wines in a blind tastings consistently is a well documented fact by now yet it seems we now have 2 for 2 (second person in two weeks) claiming can easily do so. Even Parker makes mistakes in blind tastings he himself sets up and yet we have posters here who can. I guess they also have a nice bridge collection by now, too.

Recommending wines that do not even exist ("You Lie!") and then throwing a hissy fit when called on it.

So, I am attacked on the 3 points above, call the obvious bluff and chest beating, and then attacked some more in response. ("Gold, Jerry, it's gold!")

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Spekaing of alcohol, do you recall what alc level is that legendary 1947 Petrus?

Riddick,

Again I will ask what wine I recomended that does not exist?
Also you keep harping on the blind tasting....all wine of the same varietal that is from different areas, called AVA's, have distinct differences in taste. That is why I stated its like comparing apples and oranges.

Why not relax and smoke a cigar and mellow out

TheRiddick · 02-21-2010, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by rlmedic

Again I will ask what wine I recomended that does not exist?

For the third time (looking back at the thread):

Joel Gott NAPA Cab

Stop playing games.

rlmedic · 02-21-2010, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TheRiddick

For the third time (looking back at the thread):

Joel Gott NAPA Cab

Stop playing games.

Sorry CA Cab...

my god you are a child

TheRiddick · 02-21-2010, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by rlmedic

Sorry CA Cab...

my god you are a child

Do you even read your own posts? Or rather, BOASTS?

Whatever...

Mugen910 · 02-22-2010, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by rlmedic

Sorry CA Cab...

my god you are a child

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Originally Posted by TheRiddick

Do you even read your own posts? Or rather, BOASTS?

Whatever...

Oh yeah? Your momma is so fat.....

OK stop...either cut the crap or take it to PM because this is not benefiting ME!

A bit of ribbing is fine here and there as long as people understand it's all in good humor.

Can we start a Newbie Must Try list of wines? What would you suggest in making such a list?

Oh and why do I need a special glass for wine or port? I noticed that drinking 10yr old taylorfladgate (sp) out of a glass cup (moses is going to kill me) did not take nearly as good as when it was consumed out of a special glass.

mosesbotbol · 02-22-2010, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Mugen910

Can we start a Newbie Must Try list of wines? What would you suggest in making such a list?

Oh and why do I need a special glass for wine or port? I noticed that drinking 10yr old taylorfladgate (sp) out of a glass cup (moses is going to kill me) did not take nearly as good as when it was consumed out of a special glass.

A list of "Newbie Must Try list of wines" is a nice idea. I would recommend narrowing/defining what wines can be on the list or why they are in the list. Major definers would be price range, food friendly, cigar friendly... Beyond “I liked it” should be stated as you are nominating it for some reason. Not everyone wants to spend $50 on a bottle and some have no interest in drinking $5 bottles of wine.

As for the glass, every wine has its own unique properties that a proper wine glass will exaggerate or compliment. Your description and result is correct and you astute to notice the difference! Very few restaurants have the correct port glass. Most serve them in a thimble like child's glass. If you go to such a place, ask for your port in a white wine glass. Many times they just pour you even more! Especially if it's a busy nite club kind of place.

Mugen910 · 02-22-2010, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol

Your description and result is correct and you astute to notice the difference!

The only thing I noticed was that it drank sweeter and almost thicker. I went home and purchased the same bottle and drank from a thimble like child's glass and that was very different. I'll have to invest in real port glassware since I seem to be take a glass or two every few days after work.

kgoings · 02-22-2010, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol

A list of "Newbie Must Try list of wines" is a nice idea. I would recommend narrowing/defining what wines can be on the list or why they are in the list. Major definers would be price range, food friendly, cigar friendly... Beyond “I liked it” should be stated as you are nominating it for some reason. Not everyone wants to spend $50 on a bottle and some have no interest in drinking $5 bottles of wine.

As for the glass, every wine has its own unique properties that a proper wine glass will exaggerate or compliment. Your description and result is correct and you astute to notice the difference! Very few restaurants have the correct port glass. Most serve them in a thimble like child's glass. If you go to such a place, ask for your port in a white wine glass. Many times they just pour you even more! Especially if it's a busy nite club kind of place.

A Newbie Must try list would be cool. It would be nice to have it categorized by area of production, and then sub categories by price

bobarian · 02-22-2010, 11:19 AM

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Sorry CA Cab...

And you think there is no difference here in this "minor" mistake? A CA Cab sells for about a $3-12 a bottle. A Napa Cab $50 and up for a decent winemaker. There is no reason to even have a Napa and a CA cab in the same room. A CA cab has no hints of terroir, they may be decent wines but they are blended to take out the distinctness of region or terroir.

02-22-2010, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by bobarian

And you think there is no difference here in this "minor" mistake? A CA Cab sells for about a $3-12 a bottle. A Napa Cab $50 and up for a decent winemaker. There is no reason to even have a Napa and a CA cab in the same room. A CA cab has no hints of terroir, they may be decent wines but they are blended to take out the distinctness of region or terroir.

...says the Napa resident.

rlmedic · 02-22-2010, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bobarian

And you think there is no difference here in this "minor" mistake? A CA Cab sells for about a $3-12 a bottle. A Napa Cab $50 and up for a decent winemaker. There is no reason to even have a Napa and a CA cab in the same room. A CA cab has no hints of terroir, they may be decent wines but they are blended to take out the distinctness of region or terroir.

It was a typo that got got carried away...lets not revisit it