Pete Rose, 20 years later...HOF or not?

Ashcan Bill · 07-28-2009, 02:01 PM

I saw Pete play many, many times at Dodger Stadium.

I was there the day he turned around and flipped off the entire left field pavilion. That one didn't make the news.

Letting him in to the Hall of Fame cheapens the institution and degrades the honorable players that have, and will be, admitted.

I vote no.

Only my personal opinion, not worth much.

icehog3 · 07-28-2009, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashcan Bill

I saw Pete play many, many times at Dodger Stadium.

I was there the day he turned around and flipped off the entire left field pavilion. That one didn't make the news.

Letting him in to the Hall of Fame cheapens the institution and degrades the honorable players that have, and will be, admitted.

I vote no.

Only my personal opinion, not worth much.

It is worth as much as any of ours.

But what about the less than honorable members of the Hall?...there are quite a few of them.

Ashcan Bill · 07-28-2009, 02:13 PM

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It is worth as much as any of ours.

But what about the less than honorable members of the Hall?...there are quite a few of them.

Agreed - some aren't worthy and shouldn't be there. But I can't go back in time and vote in a friendly poll prior to their induction, now can I?

icehog3 · 07-28-2009, 02:23 PM

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Agreed - some aren't worthy and shouldn't be there. But I can't go back in time and vote in a friendly poll prior to their induction, now can I?

Fair enough. You against any steroid users making the Hall, I assume.

Ashcan Bill · 07-28-2009, 03:01 PM

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Fair enough. You against any steroid users making the Hall, I assume.

Tough question, and the honest answer is I'm not sure. I'm not in the least hung up over what someone wants to do with their body, although I'm not sure it's fair to compare a juicer to a non-juicer when it comes to setting records. I wouldn't think it's fair to compare men and women when it comes to the record books either.

If someone wants to juice up, it doesn't bother me any. (Lord knows the things I've subjected my own body to over the years.) I do think they should come clean and admit it, though.

So, if they are honest enough to admit they used steroids, I suppose I'm basically in favor of letting them in, with a mention that they used roids. Then the future generations can make up their own minds.

How about Shoeless Joe? In or out?

icehog3 · 07-28-2009, 03:15 PM

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How about Shoeless Joe? In or out?

My opinion? In. Guilty by association, not because of personal wrong-doing.

07-28-2009, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

My opinion? In. Guilty by association, not because of personal wrong-doing.

I agree.

MedicCook · 07-28-2009, 03:53 PM

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My opinion? In. Guilty by association, not because of personal wrong-doing.

I also agree. The players involved even stated that Shoeless Joe did not take any money.

View Poll Results: Should Pete Rose be in the Hall of Fame?
Rose should be in the Hall.	62	65.26%
Rose should not be in the Hall.	20	21.05%
Depends (discuss below).	7	7.37%
I could care less.	6	6.32%
Voters: 95. You may not vote on this poll

07-28-2009, 02:01 PM	#1
Ashcan Bill Ol' Dude Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Bill Location: Henderson, NV Posts: 1,903 Trading: (6)	Re: Pete Rose, 20 years later...HOF or not? I saw Pete play many, many times at Dodger Stadium. I was there the day he turned around and flipped off the entire left field pavilion. That one didn't make the news. Letting him in to the Hall of Fame cheapens the institution and degrades the honorable players that have, and will be, admitted. I vote no. Only my personal opinion, not worth much.