The Taste of Seco

awsmith4 · 05-11-2011, 10:29 AM

I think it is the use of tobacco in cigars that make them all have similar tastes...

CigarNut · 05-11-2011, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by awsmith4

I think it is the use of tobacco in cigars that make them all have similar tastes...

BTcigars · 05-11-2011, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by awsmith4

I think it is the use of tobacco in cigars that make them all have similar tastes...

A simple but true explanation!

Cigars are going to taste the same to some degree because they are cigars. The different tobaccos give it different proprieties for example, try smoking a corojo wrapped cigar along with a maduro. If you smoke them at the same time you will notice the differences.

Where the tobacco was grown also makes a difference. Tobacco from Nicaragua is the strongest on earth so the more powerful cigars out there (JdN Dart Antano and Cain F) use Nica ligero for it's strength.

All in all, the differences can be subtle and the more you smoke the more you will educate your palate. Again I recommend smoking two different cigars at once so that you can spot the noticeable differences right away. Hope this helps.

NCRadioMan · 05-11-2011, 11:10 AM

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Tobacco from Nicaragua is the strongest on earth

It may be the strongest used in cigars but Nica baccy is not the strongest in the world. That would be Mapacho (sacred tobacco) from the Amazon.

jjirons69 · 05-11-2011, 11:19 AM

I'm with Tyr.

I think the question is - cigars taste like cigars, and why?

The one thing I notice, any time I'm around someone smoking a cigar, it always smell like a cigar. Never like a cigarette nor like a pipe. Pipes and cigarettes are the same. None really smell like each other and each is distinguishable. But then you run across someone with a Black and Mild and it smells sort of like a pipe and a little like a cigar (they are made with pipe tobacco which helps that theory).

T.G · 05-11-2011, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by jjirons69

I'm with Tyr.

I think the question is - cigars taste like cigars, and why?

The one thing I notice, any time I'm around someone smoking a cigar, it always smell like a cigar. Never like a cigarette nor like a pipe. Pipes and cigarettes are the same. None really smell like each other and each is distinguishable. But then you run across someone with a Black and Mild and it smells sort of like a pipe and a little like a cigar (they are made with pipe tobacco which helps that theory).

Of course - not only are different varieties of tobacco used, the processing methods and treatments are totally different.

landhoney · 05-11-2011, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by NCRadioMan

That would be Mapacho (sacred tobacco) from the Amazon.

Mmmmmmmm sacred tobacooooooooo!!! hmhhhhhh!!

Thanks Tom!

icehog3 · 05-11-2011, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by NCRadioMan

It may be the strongest used in cigars but Nica baccy is not the strongest in the world. That would be Mapacho (sacred tobacco) from the Amazon.

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Originally Posted by landhoney

Mmmmmmmm sacred tobacooooooooo!!! hmhhhhhh!!

Thanks Tom!

No doubt!, Greg, got a source??

massphatness · 05-11-2011, 12:35 PM

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No doubt!, Greg, got a source??

I might know a guy who grows stuff hydroponically, Tom. I'm sure he'd label it as Mapacho for you. Lemme know!

icehog3 · 05-11-2011, 01:36 PM

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I might know a guy who grows stuff hydroponically, Tom. I'm sure he'd label it as Mapacho for you. Lemme know!

Vin! I'm IN!!

Starscream · 05-12-2011, 02:40 PM

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I might know a guy who grows stuff hydroponically, Tom. I'm sure he'd label it as Mapacho for you. Lemme know!

Wig Wam? I thought he was banned.

BTcigars · 05-11-2011, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by NCRadioMan

It may be the strongest used in cigars but Nica baccy is not the strongest in the world. That would be Mapacho (sacred tobacco) from the Amazon.

I stand corrected....why did you have to mention the whole "sacred tobacco" part....something else I am going to obsess about getting now

alfredo_buscatti · 05-12-2011, 02:20 PM

http://tobacconistuniversity.org/ima...ed-resized.png

is the URL for a diagram of a Criollo plant showing from bottom to top, volado, capote, seco and ligero.

It is from there that I got the idea about seco, as well as watching some cigar rolling video wherein the roller said you always need seco, as it is what helps the cigar to burn.

T.G · 05-12-2011, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by alfredo_buscatti

http://tobacconistuniversity.org/ima...ed-resized.png

is the URL for a diagram of a Criollo plant showing from bottom to top, volado, capote, seco and ligero.

It is from there that I got the idea about seco, as well as watching some cigar rolling video wherein the roller said you always need seco, as it is what helps the cigar to burn.

That's an island naming scheme diagram. Ligero - seco - volado

Capote isn't a leaf position/priming, it's what a leaf is used for. Capote is known in English as the binder on a cigar. Capa is wrapper, Tripa is filler.

In regards to the rolling video - as I explained a few posts prior, seco could mean two different things depending on what country you are in, so without knowing this, it's hard to say if he means middle or bottom primings. Not all cigars use bottom primings, although most will have at least some middle primings in there somewhere, but there are a few that have neither.

Correlation does not equal causation. Don't attribute the physical characteristics of what is necessary to achieve a desired combustion profile as the reason for a commonality in flavors.

Starscream · 05-12-2011, 02:49 PM

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Capote isn't a leaf position/priming, it's what a leaf is used for.

I thought Copote was the guy who wrote In Cold Blood.

05-11-2011, 10:29 AM	#1
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jjirons69 Haberdasher Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Jamie Location: Chucktown, SC Posts: 4,120 Trading: (94)	Re: The Taste of Seco I'm with Tyr. I think the question is - cigars taste like cigars, and why? The one thing I notice, any time I'm around someone smoking a cigar, it always smell like a cigar. Never like a cigarette nor like a pipe. Pipes and cigarettes are the same. None really smell like each other and each is distinguishable. But then you run across someone with a Black and Mild and it smells sort of like a pipe and a little like a cigar (they are made with pipe tobacco which helps that theory). __________________ Somebody has to go back and get a chitload of dimes

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alfredo_buscatti Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Jan 2011 First Name: Mike Location: Piedmont, NC Posts: 277 Trading: (9)	Re: The Taste of Seco http://tobacconistuniversity.org/ima...ed-resized.png is the URL for a diagram of a Criollo plant showing from bottom to top, volado, capote, seco and ligero. It is from there that I got the idea about seco, as well as watching some cigar rolling video wherein the roller said you always need seco, as it is what helps the cigar to burn.