NFL

Originally Posted by Bruins Fan

Now the NFLPA is sending letters to the top prospects to boycott the NFL draft, after one of the proposals is to cap rookie salaries.
I'm sure that's going over big with the guys coming out?

Funny thing is the NFLPA wanted a lower cap on the rookies also, they just didn't agree with what to do with the money saved. But I think they agreed on the lockout.

Funny how the NFL players are no longer part of the NFLPA, and in fact the undrafted players would not be anyway. But NFLPA is still running the show? Please!

[Bruins Fan]

What I just heard on the radio is the NFLPA was going to hold it's own draft with the draftees at a different venue, and sell the TV.
It is kind of brilliant, but who would butt heads with the NFL, Ted Turner is a wild card he don't give a crap, HBO ?

Originally Posted by Bruins Fan

What I just heard on the radio is the NFLPA was going to hold it's own draft with the draftees at a different venue, and sell the TV.
It is kind of brilliant, but who would butt heads with the NFL, Ted Turner is a wild card he don't give a crap, HBO ?

I'm sure finding a network would be the easy part. Even if they do its not the same thing as being at the real draft. If you are a top 10 prospect you would be crazy not to attend the real deal and get to walk across the stage. You only get to do it once. Not far for the NFLPA to ask these guys to do this, the lockout will be over in a few months no mater what but you missed out on a day you should never forget!

[Starscream]

Originally Posted by Bruins Fan

What I just heard on the radio is the NFLPA was going to hold it's own draft with the draftees at a different venue, and sell the TV.
It is kind of brilliant, but who would butt heads with the NFL, Ted Turner is a wild card he don't give a crap, HBO ?

So if the NFLPA holds a draft, where do they get drafted to? Do they come in as free agents?

[Starscream]

Originally Posted by Starscream

So if the NFLPA holds a draft, where do they get drafted to? Do they come in as free agents?

Anybody answer this question?

[Bruins Fan]

Originally Posted by Starscream

Anybody answer this question?

That's a good question,they have no contract so all agreements should be void and null.
There is talk of football being played without a agreement,if so what about the franchise tag?
They can't have it both ways.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Bruins Fan

What I just heard on the radio is the NFLPA was going to hold it's own draft with the draftees at a different venue, and sell the TV.
It is kind of brilliant, but who would butt heads with the NFL, Ted Turner is a wild card he don't give a crap, HBO ?

Originally Posted by Starscream

So if the NFLPA holds a draft, where do they get drafted to? Do they come in as free agents?

Originally Posted by Starscream

Anybody answer this question?

From my understanding I don't think it's going to be a, "different" draft per se, but instead of the top prospects going up on stage and getting his picture taken with Commissioner Goodell, they'll be at another venue.

From the article:

The NFL Players Association is putting into place a plan that would prevent each top college prospect from attending next month's draft in New York, according to multiple league sources. The NFLPA already has contacted 17 top prospects who ordinarily would have received an invitation to attend the draft and informed them not to go.


Later Monday, a source said the edict is a recommendation, not an explicit order not to attend the draft. The source said the union plans to give the prospects the "same experience down the street."

[chippewastud79]

Originally Posted by tx_tuff

Funny thing is the NFLPA wanted a lower cap on the rookies also, they just didn't agree with what to do with the money saved. But I think they agreed on the lockout.

Funny how the NFL players are no longer part of the NFLPA, and in fact the undrafted players would not be anyway. But NFLPA is still running the show? Please!

Players don't hold a lot of power in this whole process. Sadly the people who exploit them do. Encouraging the college players to not attend the draft is slightly pointless as the draft will go on regardless. Without free-agency it makes the draft even more of a crap shoot. There are a lot of free agents out there and no one knows where they will end up. Once a player is drafted he will have little to do anyways. There won't be a single contact with coaches or negotiations for a contract anyway, so what is the point of having the draft.

[loki]

Originally Posted by chippewastud79

Players don't hold a lot of power in this whole process. Sadly the people who exploit them do. Encouraging the college players to not attend the draft is slightly pointless as the draft will go on regardless. Without free-agency it makes the draft even more of a crap shoot. There are a lot of free agents out there and no one knows where they will end up. Once a player is drafted he will have little to do anyways. There won't be a single contact with coaches or negotiations for a contract anyway, so what is the point of having the draft.

exploiting them? i'll tell ya what, you pay me 58 million and you exploit the hell out of me.

[chippewastud79]

Originally Posted by loki

exploiting them? i'll tell ya what, you pay me 58 million and you exploit the hell out of me.

Whether people want to agree with the priciple or not, the players make far more money for the owners than they are compensated for. Ticket prices and revenues continue to rise and players salary have not kept up. Now the owners complain that they need more money to build new stadiums (paid for by tax money and giving them the ability to raise prices on everything) and to keep from taking a loss. Owners won't show their books to show the deficit that they have, something has to give. Without the players, there is no product.

[loki]

Originally Posted by chippewastud79

Whether people want to agree with the priciple or not, the players make far more money for the owners than they are compensated for. Ticket prices and revenues continue to rise and players salary have not kept up. Now the owners complain that they need more money to build new stadiums (paid for by tax money and giving them the ability to raise prices on everything) and to keep from taking a loss. Owners won't show their books to show the deficit that they have, something has to give. Without the players, there is no product.

and i make more money for my boss then i'm compensated for...this is not their unique and special situation it's the way of the world.

also, without the fans there is no league

[chippewastud79]

Originally Posted by loki

and i make more money for my boss then i'm compensated for...this is not their unique and special situation it's the way of the world.

Well when people start paying millions and billions of dollars to show up to watch teachers in the class room or fire fighters fight a fire or my wife crunch numbers, then everyone else might have a bit more bargaining power. I'm not saying its right, its just the way people pay to watch these guys play.

Its the owners who are saying they don't make enough money, and if they don't get more, everyone else is without a job and they will keep all the revenue. The lockout works out immensely well for the owners, they still have TV contracts and such that will get paid regardless and they won't have to pay a single dollar of salary to players or anyone else for that matter. Nothing like bringing in revenue with no overhead.

[chippewastud79]

Originally Posted by loki

also, without the fans there is no league

The fans will be there whenever it is settled. And they will pay the ticket prices the owners demand and buy merchandise and beer at those games. Television contracts aren't going to be dropped like they were for hockey . Unlike any other sport, football has the fan base to absorb owners stupidity for now (unfortunately the owners know this). Fans will pay money for teams who meddle in obscurity for years, a few months of this won't lose enough fans to effect the league as a whole. If there is a full season lockout (unlikely), then you may see a decline in viewership, but it will rebound much faster than hockey or baseball suffered during their labor disputes.