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Old 03-15-2011, 10:23 AM   #1
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No argument here. My point is that even non winning teams draw crowds. Thats's why I keep bringing up the Pirates/Royals. And if a team draws enough attendance to stay profitable, what really is the problem?
I wasn't trying to argue. I was attempting to support your point.
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I wasn't trying to argue. I was attempting to support your point.
I know Andy

To add to what you said, I do think that any team that makes the post season will see attendance spike. But the regular season numbers will be mostly the same, regardless of winning %.
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Old 03-15-2011, 11:17 AM   #3
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Now the NFLPA is sending letters to the top prospects to boycott the NFL draft, after one of the proposals is to cap rookie salaries.
I'm sure that's going over big with the guys coming out?
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Old 03-15-2011, 12:41 PM   #4
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Now the NFLPA is sending letters to the top prospects to boycott the NFL draft, after one of the proposals is to cap rookie salaries.
I'm sure that's going over big with the guys coming out?
Funny thing is the NFLPA wanted a lower cap on the rookies also, they just didn't agree with what to do with the money saved. But I think they agreed on the lockout.

Funny how the NFL players are no longer part of the NFLPA, and in fact the undrafted players would not be anyway. But NFLPA is still running the show? Please!
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What I just heard on the radio is the NFLPA was going to hold it's own draft with the draftees at a different venue, and sell the TV.
It is kind of brilliant, but who would butt heads with the NFL, Ted Turner is a wild card he don't give a crap, HBO ?
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What I just heard on the radio is the NFLPA was going to hold it's own draft with the draftees at a different venue, and sell the TV.
It is kind of brilliant, but who would butt heads with the NFL, Ted Turner is a wild card he don't give a crap, HBO ?
I'm sure finding a network would be the easy part. Even if they do its not the same thing as being at the real draft. If you are a top 10 prospect you would be crazy not to attend the real deal and get to walk across the stage. You only get to do it once. Not far for the NFLPA to ask these guys to do this, the lockout will be over in a few months no mater what but you missed out on a day you should never forget!
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What I just heard on the radio is the NFLPA was going to hold it's own draft with the draftees at a different venue, and sell the TV.
It is kind of brilliant, but who would butt heads with the NFL, Ted Turner is a wild card he don't give a crap, HBO ?
So if the NFLPA holds a draft, where do they get drafted to? Do they come in as free agents?
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So if the NFLPA holds a draft, where do they get drafted to? Do they come in as free agents?
Anybody answer this question?
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Funny thing is the NFLPA wanted a lower cap on the rookies also, they just didn't agree with what to do with the money saved. But I think they agreed on the lockout.

Funny how the NFL players are no longer part of the NFLPA, and in fact the undrafted players would not be anyway. But NFLPA is still running the show? Please!
Players don't hold a lot of power in this whole process. Sadly the people who exploit them do. Encouraging the college players to not attend the draft is slightly pointless as the draft will go on regardless. Without free-agency it makes the draft even more of a crap shoot. There are a lot of free agents out there and no one knows where they will end up. Once a player is drafted he will have little to do anyways. There won't be a single contact with coaches or negotiations for a contract anyway, so what is the point of having the draft.
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Players don't hold a lot of power in this whole process. Sadly the people who exploit them do. Encouraging the college players to not attend the draft is slightly pointless as the draft will go on regardless. Without free-agency it makes the draft even more of a crap shoot. There are a lot of free agents out there and no one knows where they will end up. Once a player is drafted he will have little to do anyways. There won't be a single contact with coaches or negotiations for a contract anyway, so what is the point of having the draft.
exploiting them? i'll tell ya what, you pay me 58 million and you exploit the hell out of me.
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exploiting them? i'll tell ya what, you pay me 58 million and you exploit the hell out of me.
Whether people want to agree with the priciple or not, the players make far more money for the owners than they are compensated for. Ticket prices and revenues continue to rise and players salary have not kept up. Now the owners complain that they need more money to build new stadiums (paid for by tax money and giving them the ability to raise prices on everything) and to keep from taking a loss. Owners won't show their books to show the deficit that they have, something has to give. Without the players, there is no product.
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