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[Stephen]

Originally Posted by VirtualSmitty

Ah, but your missing my point about the minors. Aside from the 25 man roster that, each MLB team is also responsible for three other 25 man roster, so every MLB team has far more players to manage on a whole.

Don't most MLB teams have more than one A/AA club? Not trying to be a smartass, just been awhile since I followed the minor's closely...

Originally Posted by VirtualSmitty

And my Yankees/Cubs posts was the second most ridiculous thing posted. Someone chimed in earlier with an ever so insightful comment that no one watched baseball anymore, figured I might as well state something as ridiculous while the thread remained civil

If this thread does turn sour, I assure you it won't be by my doing.

Originally Posted by VirtualSmitty

As far as the salary talks, it's just a point to show that the sport is doing well. The MLB operates much differently than the NFL, the fact that they are still able to be successful without having to resort to the NFLs brand of sports socialism is a pretty worthy achievement since most other sports in this country seem to be going down that road unfortunately. All sports are a business and they should operate like any other business in this country imho. If a team or league can't cut it, it should fail

All I can say to that is this:

Originally Posted by Stephen

MLB on the other hand is 30 separate businesses acting in their own best interests instead of what's best for MLB.

It's my opinion that while each franchise has a seperate owner, the business is MLB (or NFL/NBA/NHL). You see them as a separate entity. That seem about right?

[VirtualSmitty]

Originally Posted by Stephen

It's my opinion that while each franchise has a seperate owner, the business is MLB (or NFL/NBA/NHL). You see them as a separate entity. That seem about right?

Exactly right. Each team is it's own brand and business

The minimum is always three minor league clubs. It gets cloudy after that, there are some teams that exist and compete with no major league affiliation. Minor league teams also change hands rather frequently, i've lost track myself to be honest

And just to be clear, i'm enjoying the conversation thus far. Kudos to everyone contributing constructive posts I like the back and forth and wasn't suggesting anyone was making the thread sour. I'm just surprised it has gone on as long as it has so well, on the old boards I remember a thread like this going south in a matter of hours

Oh and I pulled this from a site comparing 2010 baseball salaries and 2009 football salaries:

Major League Baseball
Major League Baseball's average salary per player in the 2010 season was $3,297,828. These numbers only encompass players on the major league roster, but all the teams in Major League Baseball also have an extensive minor league system, which would drastically reduce the average salary.

National Football League
In the 2009 National Football League season, the average player salary was $1.1 million. This number is severely skewed as there are several players on a team making a salary of around $7 million to $8 million, while a larger number make toward the league minimum. The league minimum for rookies in 2009 was $193,000.


Read more: The Average Salaries in Professional Sports

[chippewastud79]

Originally Posted by VirtualSmitty

Oh and I pulled this from a site comparing 2010 salaries:

League minimum for 2010 was $310,000 not $193,000. Maybe they were accounting for the tax man, but it would be even lower.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by VirtualSmitty

Exactly right. Each team is it's own brand and business

Which is why we have the differing viewpoints.

Originally Posted by VirtualSmitty

The minimum is always three minor league clubs. It gets cloudy after that, there are some teams that exist and compete with no major league affiliation. Minor league teams also change hands rather frequently, i've lost track myself to be honest

Right on. I thought it was like that but haven't followed minor league baseball all that closely for the past decade.

Originally Posted by VirtualSmitty

And just to be clear, i'm enjoying the conversation thus far. Kudos to everyone contributing constructive posts I like the back and forth and wasn't suggesting anyone was making the thread sour. I'm just surprised it has gone on as long as it has so well, on the old boards I remember a thread like this going south in a matter of hours

Yeah, on a sports message board that I post at from time to time, this thread would've gotten ugly, and ugly fast. Then of course Godwin's Law would've been evoked somewhere a page or so ago and that would've been the end of that.