Have you seen this story ?

02-09-2009, 03:07 PM

It is about a rancher that is getting sued by illegal aliens, for STOPPING them from entering the US

I do not condone his actions but he was doing his best if you read what this man has had to endure, and I encourage immigration to the US by anyone by the legal means..
But I cannot believe that this will stand

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,490084,00.html

Kreth · 02-09-2009, 03:24 PM

Not condoning some of what he's said to have done either, but how can illegal immigrants press a civil suit?

BigFrank · 02-09-2009, 03:36 PM

sad indeed how people who are not citizens get the same rights, and more catering towards than citizens.

I personally think its great someone is taking a stand.

taltos · 02-09-2009, 03:41 PM

He has every right to protect his property and make a citizen's arrest. Other illegals have damaged a cattle tank on his property and cattle have died after eating discarded plastic drink bottles.

RGD. · 02-09-2009, 03:44 PM

State of affairs - apparently illegal aliens have more rights than US Citizens I guess.

Personally, and it's just my opinion - but I say he has every right to protect his property just the way he did.

I'm soooo tied of all the politically correct crap - the US needs to grow a pair again.

Ron

pnoon · 02-09-2009, 03:46 PM

In my mind, the guy is a hero.

Unbelievable the courts are giving this any time at all.

taltos · 02-09-2009, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by pnoon

In my mind, the guy is a hero.

Unbelievable the courts are giving this any time at all.

Not surprised at all Peter. Look at what the court mandated illegal benefits have done to your state.

pnoon · 02-09-2009, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by taltos

Not surprised at all Peter. Look at what the court mandated illegal benefits have done to your state.

Don't get me started, Paul.

It's a slap in the face to all our ancestors and fellow Americans who came to this country legally.

md4958 · 02-09-2009, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pnoon

In my mind, the guy is a hero.

Unbelievable the courts are giving this any time at all.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pnoon

Don't get me started, Paul.

It's a slap in the face to all our ancestors and fellow Americans who came to this country legally.

02-09-2009, 04:25 PM

I live in Arizona, in fact, I spent quite a lot of my childhood in Cochise county. I know almost exactly where this incident took place. I remember as a youngster, my father, an Army Helicopter Pilot, landing his helicopter on Hwy. 80 at the request of the border patrol to assist with interdiction of illegals.

I frankly find the fact that this has gone to trial to be nothing short of completely insane! I absolutely condone all that this man did in the defense of his life and property. Living in this area, I live with the consequences of lack border security every day! Poor schools, bankrupted local governments. Social and Public safety services stretched to their breaking points.

Hell, I remember just last year being in the E.R. with Bronchitis and 104 degree temprature and having to wait for an illegal and her daughter to go to the front of the line so that her daughter could get birth control! AT THE E.R.!!!!! Keeping in mind of course. I HAVE INSURANCE and I pay a pretty penny for it too!

One thing that you guys that don't live here must be made aware of. It is a goddamned war zone on the border here guys. 7th. st. and MS 13 doing what they do best, disruption, mayhem and violence, and don't get me started on the fkn. Sinaloan Cowboys either!

Personally, I think he should have just shot them!

It is an absolute miscarriage of justice to even entertain the thought of a Civil Suit against this man, who by the way, operated well within the confines of the law! He didn't arrest these people, he detained them for Law Enforcement, which is totally legal! He was protecting himself, his family and his property, again, which is totally legal! Yet, now he has to face this Kangaroo "justice"? Are you fkn kidding me! Really!!!!?

I have absolutely no problem with people who wish to follow the rules and come to this country working within the LEGAL framework of immigration. I think that is one of the most endearing aspects to our country. But those that subvert, pervert and look for the "angle" to get here illegally, without following the rules. (all the while with their fkn hand out espousing "what are you going to do for me") No, those ladies and gentlemen are the true enemies of the state, the true threat to our National Security.

One thing that people need to realize is that we are a nation that has chosen to abide by the rule of law. When you have people that are an affront to the law, and seek to subvert the laws of this great SOVEREIGN NATION they are squarely a part of the problem, NOT the Solution! Therefore, not worthy of anything but our contempt for their role in the deconstruction of the very fabric of this Nation!

MedicCook · 02-09-2009, 04:39 PM

When I was working in EMS, I did many calls at horse track in Saratoga. It is amazing how many of the barn workers all have the exact same name. One guy we picked up there had 3 different ID's with 3 different names but all had the same picture. Guess what? His real name was none of those three he had on his person. It was not until the police told his friends/co-workers they needed his real name and info to notify his family of his death.
I have no problem with immigrating to this country as long as you pay your dues like everyone else.

BigFrank · 02-09-2009, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pnoon

it's a slap in the face to all our ancestors and fellow americans who came to this country legally.

a ****ing men

02-09-2009, 05:58 PM

Stupid illegals

. I hate criminals. He should have shot them for trespassing and then there would not be lawsuit.

02-09-2009, 05:58 PM

The man needs a parade in his honor, whatever judge is hearing this case and has not dismissed it is a moron.

taltos · 02-09-2009, 06:53 PM

He needs the three S's:
Shoot
Shovel
Shut up

JE3146 · 02-09-2009, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by taltos

He has every right to protect his property and make a citizen's arrest. Other illegals have damaged a cattle tank on his property and cattle have died after eating discarded plastic drink bottles.

I agree. I think it's even absurd for one to say that they don't condone his actions.

They're on HIS property. If he had signs saying 'Trespassers will be shot', they're LUCKY he didn't shoot them. End of story.

02-10-2009, 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by taltos

He needs the three S's:
Shoot
Shovel
Shut up

a Texan in hiding!!

taltos · 02-10-2009, 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gone Dave

a Texan in hiding!!

Sometimes I wish that I was in Texas instead of Bejing East Coast.

loki · 02-10-2009, 07:15 AM

I don't condone his behavior.....i'd have shot them

neoflex · 02-10-2009, 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RGD.

The US needs to grow a pair again.

Ron

I couldn't agree more. It's sad how this country is circling the drain. I am sick how the upstanding citizens in this country get pissed on while the low lifes and illegals get catered to, it is absolutely sickening.
I never realized how bad it was in Arizona until I watched a show named Risk Takers on HG Theater the other day. Again, Sickening!

02-09-2009, 03:07 PM	#1
Gone Dave Guest Posts: n/a	Have you seen this story ? It is about a rancher that is getting sued by illegal aliens, for STOPPING them from entering the US I do not condone his actions but he was doing his best if you read what this man has had to endure, and I encourage immigration to the US by anyone by the legal means.. But I cannot believe that this will stand http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,490084,00.html

02-09-2009, 03:24 PM	#2
Kreth Ronin smoker Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Jeff Location: Oneonta, NY Posts: 3,620 Trading: (14)	Re: Have you seen this story ? Not condoning some of what he's said to have done either, but how can illegal immigrants press a civil suit?

02-09-2009, 03:36 PM	#3
BigFrank 5 3 1 Join Date: Nov 2008 First Name: Frank Location: Gym or Sofa. Posts: 1,896 Trading: (25)	Re: Have you seen this story ? sad indeed how people who are not citizens get the same rights, and more catering towards than citizens. I personally think its great someone is taking a stand. __________________ " Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment. " Last edited by BigFrank; 02-09-2009 at 03:42 PM.

02-09-2009, 03:41 PM	#4
taltos Really, really old Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Paul Location: Saugus, MA Posts: 2,486 Trading: (3)	Re: Have you seen this story ? He has every right to protect his property and make a citizen's arrest. Other illegals have damaged a cattle tank on his property and cattle have died after eating discarded plastic drink bottles. __________________ Jimmy, some of its magic, some of its tragic, but I had a good life all the way. He Went to Paris, J. Buffett

02-09-2009, 03:44 PM	#5
RGD. God Like Status Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Ron Location: Alexandria, Virginia Posts: 971 Trading: (1)	Re: Have you seen this story ? State of affairs - apparently illegal aliens have more rights than US Citizens I guess. Personally, and it's just my opinion - but I say he has every right to protect his property just the way he did. I'm soooo tied of all the politically correct crap - the US needs to grow a pair again. Ron

02-09-2009, 03:46 PM	#6
pnoon YNWA Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Peter Location: San Diego Posts: 29,919 Trading: (20)	Re: Have you seen this story ? In my mind, the guy is a hero. Unbelievable the courts are giving this any time at all. __________________ Be more concerned with your character than your reputation, because your character is what you really are, while your reputation is merely what others think you are. -John Wooden

02-09-2009, 04:25 PM	#10
PaleRider Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Have you seen this story ? I live in Arizona, in fact, I spent quite a lot of my childhood in Cochise county. I know almost exactly where this incident took place. I remember as a youngster, my father, an Army Helicopter Pilot, landing his helicopter on Hwy. 80 at the request of the border patrol to assist with interdiction of illegals. I frankly find the fact that this has gone to trial to be nothing short of completely insane! I absolutely condone all that this man did in the defense of his life and property. Living in this area, I live with the consequences of lack border security every day! Poor schools, bankrupted local governments. Social and Public safety services stretched to their breaking points. Hell, I remember just last year being in the E.R. with Bronchitis and 104 degree temprature and having to wait for an illegal and her daughter to go to the front of the line so that her daughter could get birth control! AT THE E.R.!!!!! Keeping in mind of course. I HAVE INSURANCE and I pay a pretty penny for it too! One thing that you guys that don't live here must be made aware of. It is a goddamned war zone on the border here guys. 7th. st. and MS 13 doing what they do best, disruption, mayhem and violence, and don't get me started on the fkn. Sinaloan Cowboys either! Personally, I think he should have just shot them! It is an absolute miscarriage of justice to even entertain the thought of a Civil Suit against this man, who by the way, operated well within the confines of the law! He didn't arrest these people, he detained them for Law Enforcement, which is totally legal! He was protecting himself, his family and his property, again, which is totally legal! Yet, now he has to face this Kangaroo "justice"? Are you fkn kidding me! Really!!!!? I have absolutely no problem with people who wish to follow the rules and come to this country working within the LEGAL framework of immigration. I think that is one of the most endearing aspects to our country. But those that subvert, pervert and look for the "angle" to get here illegally, without following the rules. (all the while with their fkn hand out espousing "what are you going to do for me") No, those ladies and gentlemen are the true enemies of the state, the true threat to our National Security. One thing that people need to realize is that we are a nation that has chosen to abide by the rule of law. When you have people that are an affront to the law, and seek to subvert the laws of this great SOVEREIGN NATION they are squarely a part of the problem, NOT the Solution! Therefore, not worthy of anything but our contempt for their role in the deconstruction of the very fabric of this Nation!

02-09-2009, 04:39 PM	#11
MedicCook Mila smoked my cigar Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Ryan Location: Schaghticoke, NY Posts: 10,946 Trading: (7)	Re: Have you seen this story ? When I was working in EMS, I did many calls at horse track in Saratoga. It is amazing how many of the barn workers all have the exact same name. One guy we picked up there had 3 different ID's with 3 different names but all had the same picture. Guess what? His real name was none of those three he had on his person. It was not until the police told his friends/co-workers they needed his real name and info to notify his family of his death. I have no problem with immigrating to this country as long as you pay your dues like everyone else.

02-09-2009, 05:58 PM	#13
Tombstone Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Have you seen this story ? Stupid illegals. I hate criminals. He should have shot them for trespassing and then there would not be lawsuit.

02-09-2009, 05:58 PM	#14
Darrell Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Have you seen this story ? The man needs a parade in his honor, whatever judge is hearing this case and has not dismissed it is a moron.

02-09-2009, 06:53 PM	#15
taltos Really, really old Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Paul Location: Saugus, MA Posts: 2,486 Trading: (3)	Re: Have you seen this story ? He needs the three S's: Shoot Shovel Shut up __________________ Jimmy, some of its magic, some of its tragic, but I had a good life all the way. He Went to Paris, J. Buffett

02-10-2009, 07:15 AM	#19
loki H.A.T.E Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Pittsburgh pa Posts: 1,484 Trading: (7)	Re: Have you seen this story ? I don't condone his behavior.....i'd have shot them