Plastic on or off?

Mr Edmundo · 01-21-2009, 06:11 PM

Posted this elsewhere, but curious and would like your opinions. Recently I've purchased a few bundles of cigars that are not in boxes, but wrapped in plastic. This is done by the manufacturer and have labels and seals similar to boxes. I've kept them in their original packaging for a short while. Is there any harm in keeping them this way.

I would assume it's better for them to be out among the other cigars in the long term. I would guess that the retailers keep them this way, for god knows how long. So what's the harm in me keeping them this way as well?

Here's a photo of one bundle.

AD720 · 01-21-2009, 06:27 PM

When I get bundles like that I open them up.

I think that plastic is different than cello.

white_s2k · 01-21-2009, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AD720

When I get bundles like that I open them up.

I think that plastic is different than cello.

I always take them out of the plastic.

01-21-2009, 06:30 PM

They need to breathe the humid air that is shipping wrap take it off.

Raralith · 01-21-2009, 06:36 PM

They have individual cellos? If so:

Smoking in the next week to 3 months - cello Off
Smoking in the next 3 months to year - doesn't make a difference whether you leave it on or off, it'll still breathe
Smoking in the next year+ - leave the cello on and you may get a nice yellow cello in a few years time

You don't need to age NC's, but if you do, do it in a cello.

Yazzie · 01-21-2009, 06:38 PM

Since they are all lined up nice you can cut em all at once with the plastic on. There's a whole thread talking about the merits of this

AD720 · 01-21-2009, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raralith

They have individual cellos? If so:

Smoking in the next week to 3 months - cello Off
Smoking in the next 3 months to year - doesn't make a difference whether you leave it on or off, it'll still breathe
Smoking in the next year+ - leave the cello on and you may get a nice yellow cello in a few years time

You don't need to age NC's, but if you do, do it in a cello.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yazzie

Since they are all lined up nice you can cut em all at once with the plastic on. There's a whole thread talking about the merits of this

I think Kaz is not talking about the cello, but the outer plastic wrapper that holds the bundle together.

01-21-2009, 07:05 PM

if i get a bundle, i at least open the top of it b4 i put it in the cooler. Then when i obtain an empty box, i move 'em into the box. just my 2 cents.

groogs · 01-21-2009, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronhoffman2

if i get a bundle, i at least open the top of it b4 i put it in the cooler. Then when i obtain an empty box, i move 'em into the box. just my 2 cents.

I open the top, but I leave them bundled, because they stack better that way.

Mr Edmundo · 01-21-2009, 10:26 PM

You guys are all nuts. But then, this is the nut house!

I didn't really want to take them out of the packaging because they would all be loose in my cooler, and I didn't have enough boxes to keep them in. But paranoia won out and I freed the little bastages. But the best compromise would have been opening up one end. Or slitting the plastic carefully so some air gets in.
Oh well! In the end I think it's better they are out.
Thanks

acruce · 01-21-2009, 08:27 PM

I would take them off.

Silound · 01-21-2009, 10:16 PM

I usually just use a knife and cut a slit on each side or use a pencil or something sharp and poke holes on the sides to let bundles breathe if I'm storing them long term. If I"m going to be smoking them, there's an abundance of boxes at the shop I can grab one of to store in.

ucla695 · 01-22-2009, 06:41 AM

Either way you're fine. I would keep them intact if I had the room. Otherwise, I'd cut them loose.

01-22-2009, 08:58 AM

It dosent matter.... either way is okay IMO, the cigars are stored in the outer wrapping at the factories and stay wrapped until prurchased.

If the moisture from the cigars can escape with the outer wrapping intact, in theory allowing the cigars to dry out, would it make sense that the humidity in the himidor could also creep back in thus keeping them humidified?? Makes sense too me.

Some folks are known to wrap boxes of cigars in saranwrap to age for years, the cigars are kept as air tight as possible, the slower air exchange is believed to slow down but also improve the aging process.

01-21-2009, 06:11 PM	#1
Mr Edmundo Still Watching My Back Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Centre of Canada Posts: 199 Trading: (15)	Plastic on or off? Posted this elsewhere, but curious and would like your opinions. Recently I've purchased a few bundles of cigars that are not in boxes, but wrapped in plastic. This is done by the manufacturer and have labels and seals similar to boxes. I've kept them in their original packaging for a short while. Is there any harm in keeping them this way. I would assume it's better for them to be out among the other cigars in the long term. I would guess that the retailers keep them this way, for god knows how long. So what's the harm in me keeping them this way as well? Here's a photo of one bundle. __________________ Tobacco and alcohol, delicious fathers of abiding friendships and fertile reveries. ~Luis Buñuel Last edited by Mr Edmundo; 04-02-2009 at 09:47 AM.

01-21-2009, 06:27 PM	#2
AD720 I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Andrew Location: The City of BOTL-erly Love Posts: 2,684 Trading: (73)	Re: Plastic on or off? When I get bundles like that I open them up. I think that plastic is different than cello. __________________

01-21-2009, 06:30 PM	#4
piperman Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Plastic on or off? They need to breathe the humid air that is shipping wrap take it off.

01-21-2009, 06:36 PM	#5
Raralith Death to the Unbelievers Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Southern California Posts: 475 Trading: (24)	Re: Plastic on or off? They have individual cellos? If so: Smoking in the next week to 3 months - cello Off Smoking in the next 3 months to year - doesn't make a difference whether you leave it on or off, it'll still breathe Smoking in the next year+ - leave the cello on and you may get a nice yellow cello in a few years time You don't need to age NC's, but if you do, do it in a cello.

01-21-2009, 06:38 PM	#6
Yazzie Have My Own Room Join Date: Nov 2008 First Name: Mark Location: Longhorn Country Posts: 1,674 Trading: (10)	Re: Plastic on or off? Since they are all lined up nice you can cut em all at once with the plastic on. There's a whole thread talking about the merits of this

01-21-2009, 07:05 PM	#8
ronhoffman2 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Plastic on or off? if i get a bundle, i at least open the top of it b4 i put it in the cooler. Then when i obtain an empty box, i move 'em into the box. just my 2 cents.

01-21-2009, 10:26 PM	#10
Mr Edmundo Still Watching My Back Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Centre of Canada Posts: 199 Trading: (15)	Re: Plastic on or off? You guys are all nuts. But then, this is the nut house! I didn't really want to take them out of the packaging because they would all be loose in my cooler, and I didn't have enough boxes to keep them in. But paranoia won out and I freed the little bastages. But the best compromise would have been opening up one end. Or slitting the plastic carefully so some air gets in. Oh well! In the end I think it's better they are out. Thanks __________________ Tobacco and alcohol, delicious fathers of abiding friendships and fertile reveries. ~Luis Buñuel

01-21-2009, 08:27 PM	#11
acruce Just killing Time Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Andy Location: Venus TX Posts: 1,114 Trading: (1)	Re: Plastic on or off? I would take them off. __________________ LIVE LIFE TO THE FULLEST~SMOKE AS MANY FINE CIGARS AS POSSIBLE ~ SMILE ~ IT MAKES YOU FEEL GOOD!!

01-21-2009, 10:16 PM	#12
Silound ex-CS Swamp Gorilla Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Somewhere in a swamp, south of sanity Posts: 802 Trading: (15)	Re: Plastic on or off? I usually just use a knife and cut a slit on each side or use a pencil or something sharp and poke holes on the sides to let bundles breathe if I'm storing them long term. If I"m going to be smoking them, there's an abundance of boxes at the shop I can grab one of to store in. __________________ Back in black, and better than ever! You can't keep a good gorilla down! LSU Geaux Tigers!

01-22-2009, 06:41 AM	#13
ucla695 Neither here, nor there Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: The Pool Posts: 3,696 Trading: (5)	Re: Plastic on or off? Either way you're fine. I would keep them intact if I had the room. Otherwise, I'd cut them loose.

01-22-2009, 08:58 AM	#14
Dgar Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Plastic on or off? It dosent matter.... either way is okay IMO, the cigars are stored in the outer wrapping at the factories and stay wrapped until prurchased. If the moisture from the cigars can escape with the outer wrapping intact, in theory allowing the cigars to dry out, would it make sense that the humidity in the himidor could also creep back in thus keeping them humidified?? Makes sense too me. Some folks are known to wrap boxes of cigars in saranwrap to age for years, the cigars are kept as air tight as possible, the slower air exchange is believed to slow down but also improve the aging process.