Sobremesa Short Churchill

Don Fernando · 01-04-2017, 12:32 PM

Back in 1996, years before I smoked my first premium cigar (that was a Cuban Cohiba in Indonesia late 2005) Steve Saka started what was most likely the first consumer oriented website on cigars ever. As I mentioned, it was years before I lit my first premium cigar so I missed that Steve started working for JR Cigars as a dedicated consultant for sakes, marketing and product development. Actually, the first time I ever heard his name was after he moved to Drew Estate and created the cigar that was a game changer for Drew Estate, Liga Privada no.9, and the follow ups like the T52 and undercrown lines.

After leaving Drew Estate Steve took a hiatus before returning with his own company, Dunbarton Tobacco & Trust and his first line: Sobremesa. This cigar is made by Joya de Nicaragua but the blend is made by Saka and he actually owns the tobacco himself instead of using Joya’s tobacco. I heard and read a lot of the cigar and finally met Steve at intertabac last September. We chatted a bit and he gave me two cigars, his new blend Mi Querida and this 4 3/4 x48 Sobremesa short Churchill.

The wrapper is an Ecuadorean Habano rosado with a Mexican Matacapan binder and a filler consisting from Nicaraguan tobacco and Pennsylvania Broadleaf. The band is awesome, the shape is unique, it’s a crown, not a picture of a crown but completely shaped as a crown, very detailed and the brown of the ‘gaps’ in the crown matches the color of the wrapper perfectly. The simple yet matching foot band spells the name Sobremesa is beautiful curly letters. The wrapper is beautiful, shiny and I only see one vein. The construction feels good and the cigar has a medium strong barnyard aroma with also a hint of burned wood. I punched the cigar and found a great cold draw with some pepper and raisin.

After lighting the cigar with my Ronson varaflame I taste espresso with a woody background and a little sweetness. Soon the sweetness is stronger with wood, the espresso is gone.

After a third the sweetness is gone, the cigar now tastes like smooth oak with a little citrus aftertaste. Halfway I taste a little bit of sweetness again. The wood also changed a bit in flavor but it’s still wood. I also taste a very mild dark, mildly sweet, chocolate but is disappears quickly.

The smoke is white, thick and I get a medium amount of it. The burn starts of a bit crooked but it’s corrected itself. The ash is silver gray and beautifully layered. It’s also firm. The draw is great, no plugs and the right resistance. This is a great medium bodied yet full flavored cigar. The smoke time is about 90 minutes.

Would I buy this cigar again? Hell yeah!

Score: 93

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dave · 01-04-2017, 12:37 PM

ty!

The Poet · 01-04-2017, 12:47 PM

Thanks for the review, Ferdie. I have wondered how Steve's new smokes fare. Me, I first "met" the guy when he was in charge of the defunct JRBB, and actually met and herfed with him numerous times here in NJ while he was still with JRs. Hell of a nice dude, though a bit opinionated at times. For instance, he used to bash Acid Cigars unmercifully . . . then took a job with Drew!

Did Steve tell you his story about sharing a cigar with the old Italian man at an outdoor cafe? If not, and if you ever see him again, ask him about it. It's hilarious.

Porch Dweller · 01-04-2017, 08:53 PM

Good review, thanks for posting. I had one of these about two months ago and it was one of the best "New" cigars I smoked in 2016.

Don Fernando · 01-05-2017, 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Poet

Thanks for the review, Ferdie. I have wondered how Steve's new smokes fare. Me, I first "met" the guy when he was in charge of the defunct JRBB, and actually met and herfed with him numerous times here in NJ while he was still with JRs. Hell of a nice dude, though a bit opinionated at times. For instance, he used to bash Acid Cigars unmercifully . . . then took a job with Drew!

Did Steve tell you his story about sharing a cigar with the old Italian man at an outdoor cafe? If not, and if you ever see him again, ask him about it. It's hilarious.

He still bashes Acid cigars, but because of him Drew Estate changed its whole image, the Liga Privada was made because of Steve and all the other popular blends followed only because the Liga was such a success.

Mi Querida is a good stick too, I smoked one and will review another one later this year.

borndead1 · 01-26-2017, 11:03 PM

Your review made me pick one of these up. A toro.

Nice smoke. A definite contender for a box purchase!

Don Fernando · 01-27-2017, 08:00 AM

Good to hear. Haven't had a toro yet myself, only this vitola.

Porch Dweller · 01-27-2017, 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by borndead1

Your review made me pick one of these up. A toro.

Nice smoke. A definite contender for a box purchase!

I did the same thing about two weeks ago. I haven't smoked it yet, though.

Chainsaw13 · 01-27-2017, 04:29 PM

I've gone through over a box of the coronas already. Love the cigar.

01-04-2017, 12:32 PM	#1
Don Fernando Postwhore Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Ferdinand Location: Singapore Posts: 10,070 Trading: (29)	Sobremesa Short Churchill Back in 1996, years before I smoked my first premium cigar (that was a Cuban Cohiba in Indonesia late 2005) Steve Saka started what was most likely the first consumer oriented website on cigars ever. As I mentioned, it was years before I lit my first premium cigar so I missed that Steve started working for JR Cigars as a dedicated consultant for sakes, marketing and product development. Actually, the first time I ever heard his name was after he moved to Drew Estate and created the cigar that was a game changer for Drew Estate, Liga Privada no.9, and the follow ups like the T52 and undercrown lines. After leaving Drew Estate Steve took a hiatus before returning with his own company, Dunbarton Tobacco & Trust and his first line: Sobremesa. This cigar is made by Joya de Nicaragua but the blend is made by Saka and he actually owns the tobacco himself instead of using Joya’s tobacco. I heard and read a lot of the cigar and finally met Steve at intertabac last September. We chatted a bit and he gave me two cigars, his new blend Mi Querida and this 4 3/4 x48 Sobremesa short Churchill. The wrapper is an Ecuadorean Habano rosado with a Mexican Matacapan binder and a filler consisting from Nicaraguan tobacco and Pennsylvania Broadleaf. The band is awesome, the shape is unique, it’s a crown, not a picture of a crown but completely shaped as a crown, very detailed and the brown of the ‘gaps’ in the crown matches the color of the wrapper perfectly. The simple yet matching foot band spells the name Sobremesa is beautiful curly letters. The wrapper is beautiful, shiny and I only see one vein. The construction feels good and the cigar has a medium strong barnyard aroma with also a hint of burned wood. I punched the cigar and found a great cold draw with some pepper and raisin. After lighting the cigar with my Ronson varaflame I taste espresso with a woody background and a little sweetness. Soon the sweetness is stronger with wood, the espresso is gone. After a third the sweetness is gone, the cigar now tastes like smooth oak with a little citrus aftertaste. Halfway I taste a little bit of sweetness again. The wood also changed a bit in flavor but it’s still wood. I also taste a very mild dark, mildly sweet, chocolate but is disappears quickly. The smoke is white, thick and I get a medium amount of it. The burn starts of a bit crooked but it’s corrected itself. The ash is silver gray and beautifully layered. It’s also firm. The draw is great, no plugs and the right resistance. This is a great medium bodied yet full flavored cigar. The smoke time is about 90 minutes. Would I buy this cigar again? Hell yeah! Score: 93 full review including pictures om www.cigarguideblog.com __________________ check out my reviews on my blog.

01-04-2017, 12:37 PM	#2
dave Have My Own Room Join Date: May 2011 First Name: Dave Location: Northern VA Posts: 1,180 Trading: (15)	Re: Sobremesa Short Churchill ty! __________________ I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it. Thomas Jefferson

01-04-2017, 12:47 PM	#3
The Poet Il megglior fabbro Join Date: Jun 2009 First Name: Thomas Location: Hickory, NC Posts: 8,420 Trading: (2)	Re: Sobremesa Short Churchill Thanks for the review, Ferdie. I have wondered how Steve's new smokes fare. Me, I first "met" the guy when he was in charge of the defunct JRBB, and actually met and herfed with him numerous times here in NJ while he was still with JRs. Hell of a nice dude, though a bit opinionated at times. For instance, he used to bash Acid Cigars unmercifully . . . then took a job with Drew! Did Steve tell you his story about sharing a cigar with the old Italian man at an outdoor cafe? If not, and if you ever see him again, ask him about it. It's hilarious. __________________ Ninety percent of everything is crap - Theodore Sturgeon.

01-04-2017, 08:53 PM	#4
Porch Dweller Life is for living Join Date: Oct 2012 First Name: James Location: Mississippi Gulf Coast Posts: 8,461 Trading: (24)	Re: Sobremesa Short Churchill Good review, thanks for posting. I had one of these about two months ago and it was one of the best "New" cigars I smoked in 2016. __________________ A 1911 in the hand is faster than 911 on the phone

01-26-2017, 11:03 PM	#6
borndead1 Ayatollah of Rock n Rolla Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mark Location: Lancaster, CA Posts: 1,364 Trading: (7)	Re: Sobremesa Short Churchill Your review made me pick one of these up. A toro. Nice smoke. A definite contender for a box purchase! __________________ None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.

01-27-2017, 08:00 AM	#7
Don Fernando Postwhore Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Ferdinand Location: Singapore Posts: 10,070 Trading: (29)	Re: Sobremesa Short Churchill Good to hear. Haven't had a toro yet myself, only this vitola. __________________ check out my reviews on my blog.

01-27-2017, 04:29 PM	#9
Chainsaw13 Møøse bites can be nasty Join Date: Jan 2010 First Name: Bob Location: The Enchanted Mitten Posts: 7,198 Trading: (96)	Re: Sobremesa Short Churchill I've gone through over a box of the coronas already. Love the cigar. __________________ My neighbor came by my house this morning at 2AM, pounding on the door. Good thing I was still up playing the drums.