Are these cigars salvageable?

sevans105 · 04-02-2012, 09:19 PM

Got these guys in a trade today...I think these two decided to commit suicide on the way. Any way to save them?

Thanks guys!

pnoon · 04-02-2012, 09:21 PM

It never hurts to try.
But I would say yes to the top one and no to the bottom one.

Ogre · 04-02-2012, 09:33 PM

I would have to agree with Peter on this one.

maninblack · 04-02-2012, 09:34 PM

Put them in a pipe and smoke them. At least the bottom one.

mkarnold1 · 04-02-2012, 09:35 PM

I would smoke them both immediately. Especially the bottom one. You can maybe get a 1/2 hour out of it before it falls apart.

levrac68 · 04-02-2012, 09:36 PM

If you cut the top one short at the cap it may work. The only drawback is you'll be changing the characteristics of the cigar...

The bottom one will be leaking smoke from the side and more than likely has the filler twisted a bit inside. That's the one I'd open up for an autopsy.

markem · 04-02-2012, 09:38 PM

Pectin is your friend. Also, if you happen to have another cigar (maybe it was plugged and you are giving it time) that can donate a wrapper, it's fairly easy surgery.

kuzi16 · 04-02-2012, 09:58 PM

make tobacco ice cream with he bottom one.

make it custard style ice cream

after heating and reducing the milk but before adding the sugar and eggs to temper the mixture, add in the crushed up remains of that unsmokable cigar and let it steep for about 1 or 2 minutes. strain, then continue to make the ice cream as usual.

adding in the tiniest bit of bourbon and chocolate chips wouldnt be a bad idea either.

sevans105 · 04-02-2012, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by kuzi16

make tobacco ice cream with he bottom one.

make it custard style ice cream

after heating and reducing the milk but before adding the sugar and eggs to temper the mixture, add in the crushed up remains of that unsmokable cigar and let it steep for about 1 or 2 minutes. strain, then continue to make the ice cream as usual.

adding in the tiniest bit of bourbon and chocolate chips wouldnt be a bad idea either.

Funny....

jledou · 04-02-2012, 10:08 PM

A little duct tape and you are gooooood to go.

I would give a little ( a lot ) of pectin a try.

SmokinCozy · 04-02-2012, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by markem

Pectin is your friend. Also, if you happen to have another cigar (maybe it was plugged and you are giving it time) that can donate a wrapper, it's fairly easy surgery.

Works everytime

kuzi16 · 04-03-2012, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by sevans105

Funny....

but seriously... the ice cream concept was in Cigar Press Magazine a while back. I tried it but let the tobacco steep too long. the recipe said 20 minutes. with that much time it had a bit too much bite/pepper. if i ever broke a cigar or it was damaged to the point of not being salvageable again i will try it again but only steep for 1-2 minutes (like a good tea).

T.G · 04-03-2012, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by markem

Pectin is your friend. Also, if you happen to have another cigar (maybe it was plugged and you are giving it time) that can donate a wrapper, it's fairly easy surgery.

Mark is wise.

Also, you can have some fun with it and find an NC that you like of the same dimensions and take the wrapper from there to fix the bottom one, then use the pieces of the bottom wrapper to patch the top cigar.

A spray bottle of distilled water and some patience is all you need to unroll a good capa from another cigar.

Gooner · 04-03-2012, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by T.G

Mark is wise.

Also, you can have some fun with it and find an NC that you like of the same dimensions and take the wrapper from there to fix the bottom one, then use the pieces of the bottom wrapper to patch the top cigar.

A spray bottle of distilled water and some patience is all you need to unroll a good capa from another cigar.

Thats a really interesting idea.

If the OP does this, I would love to see a review of CC filler and binder with NC wrapper.

T.G · 04-03-2012, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Gooner

Thats a really interesting idea.

If the OP does this, I would love to see a review of CC filler and binder with NC wrapper.

I've made a number of frankengars and passed them around at herfs in the past. Sometimes they work out, sometimes what you think will work, doesn't.

Generally speaking, medium bodied NCs are the strongest you would want to use otherwise they tend to overpower the CC components. Nicaraguan or CT broadleaf wrappers over CC filer & binder tend to work well as do fuller/stronger CC wrappers (Bolivar, Partagas, Upmann, etc) over medium bodied fillers that are Nicaraguan or mostly Nicaraguan and a bit of Honduran tobacco.

shilala · 04-03-2012, 12:48 PM

I'd chop the end off that bottom one and call it a pc, but I'm lazy.
The top one, a little pectin would heal it right up. Otherwise I'd cut the top off of it and smoke it as is.
Generally I save banged up cc's and give them to sofaman. He'll smoke anything.

Blak Smyth · 04-03-2012, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by shilala

I'd chop the end off that bottom one and call it a pc, but I'm lazy.
The top one, a little pectin would heal it right up. Otherwise I'd cut the top off of it and smoke it as is.
Generally I save banged up cc's and give them to sofaman. He'll smoke anything.

Scott, we all know you would just chuck these!

mosesbotbol · 04-03-2012, 12:53 PM

If the other option is to throw them out, then just smoke them and see. The top one should be no problem.

shilala · 04-03-2012, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Blak Smyth

Scott, we all know you would just chuck these!

Honest, I save good wrecked sticks in a bag. Cheap wrecked sticks, I chuck those.

pektel · 04-03-2012, 01:05 PM

I received a 98 HdM churchill that had a similar issue as the top one in your photo. I just peeled the wrapper off, up to the label, and it smoked just fine.

04-02-2012, 09:19 PM	#1
sevans105 Alpha Zombie Wolf "Sceve" Join Date: Jul 2010 First Name: Scott Location: Southern Minnesota Posts: 1,786 Trading: (30)	Are these cigars salvageable? Got these guys in a trade today...I think these two decided to commit suicide on the way. Any way to save them? Thanks guys! __________________

04-02-2012, 09:21 PM	#2
pnoon YNWA Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Peter Location: San Diego Posts: 29,919 Trading: (20)	Re: Are these cigars salvageable? It never hurts to try. But I would say yes to the top one and no to the bottom one. __________________ Be more concerned with your character than your reputation, because your character is what you really are, while your reputation is merely what others think you are. -John Wooden

04-02-2012, 09:33 PM	#3
Ogre **CENSORED** Join Date: Apr 2010 First Name: Larry Location: Central Florida Posts: 12,068 Trading: (46)	Re: Are these cigars salvageable? I would have to agree with Peter on this one. __________________

04-02-2012, 09:34 PM	#4
maninblack Will smoke for food Join Date: Jan 2010 First Name: Kevin Location: Where the hoot owls f$ck the chickens Posts: 10,637 Trading: (80)	Re: Are these cigars salvageable? Put them in a pipe and smoke them. At least the bottom one. __________________ Proud member of the GMCGTPWHAFA

04-02-2012, 09:35 PM	#5
mkarnold1 Skol Vikings! Join Date: Sep 2011 First Name: Mark Location: St. Charles, MN Posts: 1,015 Trading: (22)	Re: Are these cigars salvageable? I would smoke them both immediately. Especially the bottom one. You can maybe get a 1/2 hour out of it before it falls apart. __________________ [Help out the troops!

04-02-2012, 09:36 PM	#6
levrac68 Still Watching My Back Join Date: Mar 2012 First Name: Todd Location: Long Island Posts: 118 Trading: (0)	Re: Are these cigars salvageable? If you cut the top one short at the cap it may work. The only drawback is you'll be changing the characteristics of the cigar... The bottom one will be leaking smoke from the side and more than likely has the filler twisted a bit inside. That's the one I'd open up for an autopsy.

04-02-2012, 09:38 PM	#7
markem Bunion Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mark Location: Second Star on the Right Posts: 22,625 Trading: (47)	Re: Are these cigars salvageable? Pectin is your friend. Also, if you happen to have another cigar (maybe it was plugged and you are giving it time) that can donate a wrapper, it's fairly easy surgery. __________________ I refuse to belong to any organization that would have me as a member. ~ Groucho Marx

04-02-2012, 09:58 PM	#8
kuzi16 the one and only Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 128 Trading: (1)	Re: Are these cigars salvageable? make tobacco ice cream with he bottom one. make it custard style ice cream after heating and reducing the milk but before adding the sugar and eggs to temper the mixture, add in the crushed up remains of that unsmokable cigar and let it steep for about 1 or 2 minutes. strain, then continue to make the ice cream as usual. adding in the tiniest bit of bourbon and chocolate chips wouldnt be a bad idea either. __________________ Kuzi's Cigar Catalog

04-02-2012, 10:08 PM	#10
jledou Have My Own Room Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Jay Location: Kansas Posts: 2,225 Trading: (27)	Re: Are these cigars salvageable? A little duct tape and you are gooooood to go. I would give a little ( a lot ) of pectin a try.

04-03-2012, 12:48 PM	#16
shilala Dear Lord, Thank You. Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Posts: 13,721 Trading: (252)	Re: Are these cigars salvageable? I'd chop the end off that bottom one and call it a pc, but I'm lazy. The top one, a little pectin would heal it right up. Otherwise I'd cut the top off of it and smoke it as is. Generally I save banged up cc's and give them to sofaman. He'll smoke anything. __________________

04-03-2012, 12:53 PM	#18
mosesbotbol That's a Corgi Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Moses Location: Boston Posts: 6,171 Trading: (6)	Re: Are these cigars salvageable? If the other option is to throw them out, then just smoke them and see. The top one should be no problem. __________________ Port Wine & Claret \| British Cars \| Welsh Corgi's

04-03-2012, 01:05 PM	#20
pektel I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Jul 2010 First Name: Peter Location: Grand Rapids, MN Posts: 4,320 Trading: (28)	Re: Are these cigars salvageable? I received a 98 HdM churchill that had a similar issue as the top one in your photo. I just peeled the wrapper off, up to the label, and it smoked just fine. __________________ The problem is not the problem. The problem is your ATTITUDE about the problem.