Bad Apple

Pseudosacred · 02-06-2012, 12:01 AM

So, I've smoked about 6 or 7 cigars now. I've had 2 Acids, a Romeo, a CAO Italia and the Diesel Unholy.

I enjoyed every one of them...until after the Diesel. I reeally liked the taste of the D, it was spicey and strong, just a really good smoke.

After I smoked it I got dizzy, naseus and tossed my cookies. I was sick all night afterwords.

Since that cigar, I have this weird...almost displeasure(?) smoking cigars.

Could this be because the Diesel was so strong and flavorful that it makes everything mild taste like nothing special?

I bought a smapler of a few sticks, all of them are mild (or at least the 5 that I've smoked out of them). I get nothing really special out of them.

Has this happened to anyone? It's really a downer

icehog3 · 02-06-2012, 12:03 AM

Have something with sugar on hand....it is the antidote for nicotine poisoning. Takes the edge right off. Stick with it, most of us have had it, and learned how to make sure it doesn't happen so violently.

Pseudosacred · 02-06-2012, 12:05 AM

I read about the sugar trick, I'll definitely have some next time I go at a strong stick!

icehog3 · 02-06-2012, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Pseudosacred

I read about the sugar trick, I'll definitely have some next time I go at a strong stick!

Nice meal beforehand helps too.

DaBear · 02-06-2012, 12:08 AM

I'm with Tom on this one. If I know I'm smoking a lot of cigars, or just a particularly strong one I'll take a glass of root beer out with me. Keeps me from feelin it so much.

Flynnster · 02-06-2012, 12:14 AM

You will notice the subtle tastes and flavors in the milder cigars as you smoke more. Go slow and enjoy the milder ones.

As for the strong one kicking your but, it happens. But I promise that isn't how cigars all are.

Remo · 02-06-2012, 12:15 AM

Blowing chunks is impressive

You get a pic?

hapi · 02-06-2012, 12:30 AM

eat hamberger before smoke.

maninblack · 02-06-2012, 12:37 AM

I used to do this too, but only after smoking a Perdomo immenso. Huge nicotine buzz. And nasty to boot.

backwoods357 · 02-06-2012, 12:43 AM

This has happened to me a few times. My wife found me curled up on the bathroom floor once, god that feeling sucks. I will definitely try the sugar trick next time. Do you need to head it off early or can you reverse the effects after it gets bad?

keith_mahoney · 02-06-2012, 12:55 AM

A sure fire way to beat nicotine sicness from cigars is to use Copenhagen for several years before starting your love affair with cigars. It worked for me. I gave up dipping after 8 years, for my wife before I got into cigars. I have never even approached being sick from a cigar, even after a few in a row. An early morning chew would always make my head spin.
This probably isn't good advice but it worked for me.

DaBear · 02-06-2012, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by backwoods357

This has happened to me a few times. My wife found me curled up on the bathroom floor once, god that feeling sucks. I will definitely try the sugar trick next time. Do you need to head it off early or can you reverse the effects after it gets bad?

You can bring yourself back after its already started, it just takes 10-15 mins. Eat some M&Ms, down a glass of root beer, really anything with sugar. Just bring the blood sugar back on up and you'll be back to normal

GAW · 02-06-2012, 03:09 AM

My take is that your palate seeks flavor but your body has not yet developed much nicotine tolerance. More flavor with tolerable nic-kick can be found in the cigar world but the right balance for you requires some knowledge of cigars and actual smoking experience. Many reviews provide that smokers assessment of the strength/flavor trade-off including those on this site.

pnoon · 02-06-2012, 07:45 AM

Silly question but I have to ask.
You are not inhaling, are you?

Jasonw560 · 02-06-2012, 07:59 AM

You should start with the mild, and work your way up. If you don't have any adverse reactions with them, then go medium. Then see how your body feels. if you're queasy, then stick with them (plus the root beer or other soft drink) for a while. Then go to full bodied.

It's kinda like starting on Everclear when you start drinking. Sounds like a good idea at the time...

Subvet642 · 02-06-2012, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by pnoon

Silly question but I have to ask.
You are not inhaling, are you?

Why, is that bad? I do it all the time, but I've been smoking cigarettes since '78 and have lungs of steel.

pnoon · 02-06-2012, 08:59 AM

In general, yes. You are the exception. Plus, the OP is a brand new cigar smoker. If he is inhaling, that could be the reason for his problem.
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02-06-2012, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Subvet642

Why, is that bad? I do it all the time, but I've been smoking cigarettes since '78 and have lungs of steel.

icehog3 · 02-06-2012, 09:47 AM

frankenstein say fire bad.

Remo · 02-06-2012, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keith_mahoney

A sure fire way to beat nicotine sicness from cigars is to use Copenhagen for several years before starting your love affair with cigars. It worked for me. I gave up dipping after 8 years, for my wife before I got into cigars. I have never even approached being sick from a cigar, even after a few in a row. An early morning chew would always make my head spin.
This probably isn't good advice but it worked for me.

This is me, I have dipped Cope for 20 some odd years, never feel nicotine in a cigar.

02-06-2012, 12:01 AM	#1
Pseudosacred What will your verse be? Join Date: Jan 2012 First Name: Nick Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 423 Trading: (1)	Bad Apple So, I've smoked about 6 or 7 cigars now. I've had 2 Acids, a Romeo, a CAO Italia and the Diesel Unholy. I enjoyed every one of them...until after the Diesel. I reeally liked the taste of the D, it was spicey and strong, just a really good smoke. After I smoked it I got dizzy, naseus and tossed my cookies. I was sick all night afterwords. Since that cigar, I have this weird...almost displeasure(?) smoking cigars. Could this be because the Diesel was so strong and flavorful that it makes everything mild taste like nothing special? I bought a smapler of a few sticks, all of them are mild (or at least the 5 that I've smoked out of them). I get nothing really special out of them. Has this happened to anyone? It's really a downer

02-06-2012, 12:03 AM	#2
icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 71,440 Trading: (60)	Re: Bad Apple Have something with sugar on hand....it is the antidote for nicotine poisoning. Takes the edge right off. Stick with it, most of us have had it, and learned how to make sure it doesn't happen so violently. __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!

02-06-2012, 12:05 AM	#3
Pseudosacred What will your verse be? Join Date: Jan 2012 First Name: Nick Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 423 Trading: (1)	Re: Bad Apple I read about the sugar trick, I'll definitely have some next time I go at a strong stick!

02-06-2012, 12:08 AM	#5
DaBear Have My Own Room Join Date: Sep 2010 First Name: Bear Location: Raleigh, NC(NC State) Posts: 2,010 Trading: (26)	Re: Bad Apple I'm with Tom on this one. If I know I'm smoking a lot of cigars, or just a particularly strong one I'll take a glass of root beer out with me. Keeps me from feelin it so much.

02-06-2012, 12:14 AM	#6
Flynnster Life's too short Swishers Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Middle of the Mitten Posts: 787 Trading: (7)	Re: Bad Apple You will notice the subtle tastes and flavors in the milder cigars as you smoke more. Go slow and enjoy the milder ones. As for the strong one kicking your but, it happens. But I promise that isn't how cigars all are.

02-06-2012, 12:15 AM	#7
Remo C.I.A Join Date: Feb 2011 First Name: Mike Location: Palm Harbor, Florida Posts: 12,597 Trading: (122)	Re: Bad Apple Blowing chunks is impressive You get a pic? __________________

02-06-2012, 12:30 AM	#8
hapi Just in from the Storm Join Date: Jan 2012 First Name: Hapisan Location: MD Posts: 27 Trading: (0)	Re: Bad Apple eat hamberger before smoke.

02-06-2012, 12:37 AM	#9
maninblack Will smoke for food Join Date: Jan 2010 First Name: Kevin Location: Where the hoot owls f$ck the chickens Posts: 10,637 Trading: (80)	Re: Bad Apple I used to do this too, but only after smoking a Perdomo immenso. Huge nicotine buzz. And nasty to boot. __________________ Proud member of the GMCGTPWHAFA

02-06-2012, 12:43 AM	#10
backwoods357 Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Mar 2011 First Name: Jorgen Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 349 Trading: (14)	Re: Bad Apple This has happened to me a few times. My wife found me curled up on the bathroom floor once, god that feeling sucks. I will definitely try the sugar trick next time. Do you need to head it off early or can you reverse the effects after it gets bad?

02-06-2012, 12:55 AM	#11
keith_mahoney Still Watching My Back Join Date: Feb 2012 First Name: Keith Location: Ewa Beach Posts: 65 Trading: (0)	Re: Bad Apple A sure fire way to beat nicotine sicness from cigars is to use Copenhagen for several years before starting your love affair with cigars. It worked for me. I gave up dipping after 8 years, for my wife before I got into cigars. I have never even approached being sick from a cigar, even after a few in a row. An early morning chew would always make my head spin. This probably isn't good advice but it worked for me.

02-06-2012, 03:09 AM	#13
GAW Still Watching My Back Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 51 Trading: (9)	Re: Bad Apple My take is that your palate seeks flavor but your body has not yet developed much nicotine tolerance. More flavor with tolerable nic-kick can be found in the cigar world but the right balance for you requires some knowledge of cigars and actual smoking experience. Many reviews provide that smokers assessment of the strength/flavor trade-off including those on this site. __________________ "Why does a salmon rise? Why does a small boy cross the street just to kick a tin can?" Lee Wulff, The Atlantic Salmon

02-06-2012, 07:45 AM	#14
pnoon YNWA Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Peter Location: San Diego Posts: 29,919 Trading: (20)	Re: Bad Apple Silly question but I have to ask. You are not inhaling, are you? __________________ Be more concerned with your character than your reputation, because your character is what you really are, while your reputation is merely what others think you are. -John Wooden

02-06-2012, 07:59 AM	#15
Jasonw560 PhD from Sarcastic State Join Date: Jul 2011 First Name: Jason Location: Harlingen, TX Posts: 812 Trading: (0)	Re: Bad Apple You should start with the mild, and work your way up. If you don't have any adverse reactions with them, then go medium. Then see how your body feels. if you're queasy, then stick with them (plus the root beer or other soft drink) for a while. Then go to full bodied. It's kinda like starting on Everclear when you start drinking. Sounds like a good idea at the time... __________________ ...And a woman is only a woman, But a good cigar is a smoke! -R. Kipling

02-06-2012, 08:59 AM	#17
pnoon YNWA Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Peter Location: San Diego Posts: 29,919 Trading: (20)	Re: Bad Apple In general, yes. You are the exception. Plus, the OP is a brand new cigar smoker. If he is inhaling, that could be the reason for his problem. Posted via Mobile Device

02-06-2012, 09:47 AM	#19
icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 71,440 Trading: (60)	Re: Bad Apple frankenstein say fire bad. __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!