Baitfish Logo theft?

01-07-2012, 02:12 PM

Let me preface this by saying I love DE sticks, including the MUWAT. With that said, I also love Dogfish Head beers.

Last night, I'm enjoying a beer by Dogfish when I happen to notice that the logo looks eerily like one of the logos on my newest cigars to hit my humi.

So I walk to the humi and pull the package out to find this:

I look back at the bottle and see this:

Now I'm questioning if I'm crazy, or if Drew Estates setting themselves up for a legal issue. I would hate to see either party lose money on lawyers, as I love both of their products.

So, what do you all think?

Remo · 01-07-2012, 02:17 PM

While similar I don't see an issue, one is beer, one is cigars so I doubt anyone would confuse the two even if there was an issue, I think it's non issue, but who knows.

sevans105 · 01-07-2012, 02:22 PM

Great products, both. While I agree that the logos have similar layouts, they are different enough (color, fish species, wording) that they shouldn't have issues. Could a case be brought against the second to market? of course. In my opinion, it would be without merit.

As the old saying goes, "imitation is the sincerest form of flattery."

01-07-2012, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Remo_5_0

While similar I don't see an issue, one is beer, one is cigars so I doubt anyone would confuse the two even if there was an issue, I think it's non issue, but who knows.

Thats what I'm hoping to hear. I'm not trying to instigate anything by bringing it up, just trying to rest my head knowing that there won't be problems for anyone.

jsnake · 01-07-2012, 02:52 PM

I don't think they are even really similar. 2 different fish obviously, different logo shape, different color, different lettering, different products. If they were similar products I would say it was getting borderline to be a rip off but I just don't see it as it stands.

Remo · 01-07-2012, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jsnake

I don't think they are even really similar. 2 different fish obviously, different logo shape, different color, different lettering, different products. If they were similar products I would say it was getting borderline to be a rip off but I just don't see it as it stands.

Yup

Blak Smyth · 01-07-2012, 03:00 PM

The only similarities I see are a circle/oval and a fish facing the same direction. If they were both cigar companies I would question it but since they are not I don't have a problem with it, not that my opinion matters.

hotreds · 01-07-2012, 03:05 PM

Baitfish is just that- a shiner- used for bait

Dogfish- type of shark

Nothing comaprable, really.

EricF · 01-07-2012, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by hotreds

Baitfish is just that- a shiner- used for bait

Dogfish- type of shark

Nothing comaprable, really.

Agreed!!

Mr.Erskine · 01-07-2012, 03:58 PM

I don't think it would present an issue. As everyone ahead of me said, they're different enough.

Bill86 · 01-07-2012, 04:16 PM

What Hugh said. Completely different.

Taki · 01-07-2012, 04:57 PM

Not really the same at all but its in the eye of the beholder that makes the decision...

mmblz · 01-07-2012, 07:43 PM

a fish in an oval?

cobra03 · 01-07-2012, 09:34 PM

You have the silhouette of a shark in a oval advertising beer, and a detailed drawing of small fish in a circle advertising cigars. Different fonts, fish, color, design and so on. I fail to see a whole lot of similarities

never_enough · 01-07-2012, 09:49 PM

Not seeing the problem. Somewhat similar? Yeah, but they really wouldn't get confused by someone.

jluck · 01-07-2012, 10:41 PM

There only has to be a 20% difference to avoid legal issues. I think there plenty safe.

01-08-2012, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by jluck

There only has to be a 20% difference to avoid legal issues. I think there plenty safe.

Yup!

emopunker2004 · 01-08-2012, 01:47 AM

The way I see it, different fish, different layout, different name.

baldanders · 01-08-2012, 06:14 AM

Dogfish Head is a jut of land off the Maine coast. The beer is not named after a fish. Just some info that I guess really has nothing to do with this

maninblack · 01-08-2012, 07:40 AM

Nice review.

01-07-2012, 02:12 PM	#1
Bad Finger Guest Posts: n/a	Baitfish Logo theft? Let me preface this by saying I love DE sticks, including the MUWAT. With that said, I also love Dogfish Head beers. Last night, I'm enjoying a beer by Dogfish when I happen to notice that the logo looks eerily like one of the logos on my newest cigars to hit my humi. So I walk to the humi and pull the package out to find this: I look back at the bottle and see this: Now I'm questioning if I'm crazy, or if Drew Estates setting themselves up for a legal issue. I would hate to see either party lose money on lawyers, as I love both of their products. So, what do you all think?

01-07-2012, 02:17 PM	#2
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01-07-2012, 02:22 PM	#3
sevans105 Alpha Zombie Wolf "Sceve" Join Date: Jul 2010 First Name: Scott Location: Southern Minnesota Posts: 1,786 Trading: (30)	Re: Baitfish Logo theft? Great products, both. While I agree that the logos have similar layouts, they are different enough (color, fish species, wording) that they shouldn't have issues. Could a case be brought against the second to market? of course. In my opinion, it would be without merit. As the old saying goes, "imitation is the sincerest form of flattery." __________________

01-07-2012, 02:52 PM	#5
jsnake Have My Own Room Join Date: Feb 2010 First Name: Jake Location: Your mom's house Posts: 1,309 Trading: (22)	Re: Baitfish Logo theft? I don't think they are even really similar. 2 different fish obviously, different logo shape, different color, different lettering, different products. If they were similar products I would say it was getting borderline to be a rip off but I just don't see it as it stands.

01-07-2012, 03:00 PM	#7
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01-07-2012, 03:58 PM	#10
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01-07-2012, 09:49 PM	#15
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01-08-2012, 01:47 AM	#18
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01-08-2012, 06:14 AM	#19
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01-08-2012, 07:40 AM	#20
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