Winter outside heater recommendations?

spectrrr · 11-29-2011, 12:47 AM

Winter is arriving and I've go a great little makeshift mancave setup outside in a little uninsulated shed. Well, it would be great, if it had a heater!

I haven't measured the shed, but it's probably not more than 11x9x8, and really only 1/2 of the shed needs to be warm.

Quick startup is needed - I'm not going to turn it on and come back in 45 minutes. (so a fan is probably in order... but maybe not?)

Electric would be preferred, less things to worry about. Given that I'm smoking right next to the main breaker box for the property, getting a good power feed to it won't be a problem

(electric may be too $$ to buy however)

Heater can (and will) be positioned somewhat close to me. I can't physically put it more than 4 feet from me.

$PRICE$ is a factor. I'm not worried about operational costs, as it won't be used ever day. But for the initial unit, price needs to be low! ideally less than $100.

longknocker · 11-29-2011, 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by spectrrr

Winter is arriving and I've go a great little makeshift mancave setup outside in a little uninsulated shed. Well, it would be great, if it had a heater!

I haven't measured the shed, but it's probably not more than 11x9x8, and really only 1/2 of the shed needs to be warm.

Quick startup is needed - I'm not going to turn it on and come back in 45 minutes. (so a fan is probably in order... but maybe not?)

Electric would be preferred, less things to worry about. Given that I'm smoking right next to the main breaker box for the property, getting a good power feed to it won't be a problem

(electric may be too $$ to buy however)

Heater can (and will) be positioned somewhat close to me. I can't physically put it more than 4 feet from me.

$PRICE$ is a factor. I'm not worried about operational costs, as it won't be used ever day. But for the initial unit, price needs to be low! ideally less than $100.

I Have This One. Works Great!

http://www.academy.com/webapp/wcs/st..._-1?N=78006369

68TriShield · 11-29-2011, 05:48 AM

I use the round electric radiant heater,even in my 2 car garage it warms me fine and fast.

14holestogie · 11-29-2011, 10:56 AM

Kerosene radiant heater for me, although you may be too confined in that small an area. I use mine in a 3-plus car garage and use it hours on end with no noticable effects.

Blak Smyth · 11-29-2011, 11:04 AM

This is what I use, it works well in a small area. The nice thing is it doesn't get HOT, so you can sit right next to it if you want. Sounds like what you are looking for.

I bought it from Sears and I think it was much less than advertised in this link (Like $75):
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...&blockType=G92

dave · 11-29-2011, 11:08 AM

Girlfriend and I put electric one on either side of us (one round, one vertical) and works pretty good. Round one is better heater and oscillates. Howver, the light coming off the reflector is REALLY bright. PITA sometimes when pointed right at you.

Was seriously considering a tabletop kerosene umbrella-type patio heater for this winter, though. Saw one the other day for $60.

Threadjack alert...... Anyone know if you can change the 'input' to take large grill-size bottles instead of the little camp-stove style?

Apoco · 11-29-2011, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by dave

Girlfriend and I put electric one on either side of us (one round, one vertical) and works pretty good. Round one is better heater and oscillates. Howver, the light coming off the reflector is REALLY bright. PITA sometimes when pointed right at you.

Was seriously considering a tabletop kerosene umbrella-type patio heater for this winter, though. Saw one the other day for $60.

Threadjack alert...... Anyone know if you can change the 'input' to take large grill-size bottles instead of the little camp-stove style?

Just search for one that is built to connect to a propane tank. I use a round one that connects to a propane tank. Works really well in an enclosed area.
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waffle · 11-29-2011, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by dave

Girlfriend and I put electric one on either side of us (one round, one vertical) and works pretty good. Round one is better heater and oscillates. Howver, the light coming off the reflector is REALLY bright. PITA sometimes when pointed right at you.

Was seriously considering a tabletop kerosene umbrella-type patio heater for this winter, though. Saw one the other day for $60.

Threadjack alert...... Anyone know if you can change the 'input' to take large grill-size bottles instead of the little camp-stove style?

Yes you can... heres an adapter, hook it up and viola, runs on a full tank... that was actually my suggestion table top propane and the hose... works great!

BlkDrew · 11-29-2011, 11:57 AM

I like the contractor style propane heater, I use them off of a 20lb tank, lasts a while

CigarNut · 11-29-2011, 01:23 PM

I have one of these parabolic heaters from Costco:

Works really well indoors. For outdoors I have a couple of propane heaters.

markem · 11-29-2011, 01:27 PM

This is one of the ones that I have. I like this one a lot.

http://www.target.com/p/Honeywell-Co...r/-/A-12821920

$6309 online from Target but I got mine in store for $55.

bobarian · 11-29-2011, 01:56 PM

Basically two options. Electric or propane. Both have their disadvantages, with electric, your meter will spin because anything that gives decent heat will use 1500w or more. Propane needs some ventilation to avoid carbon monoxide poisoning.

Adam posted these propane heaters that are a good deal. http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=51402

spectrrr · 11-29-2011, 01:59 PM

I'm not sure a 1500W (~5200btu) heater is probably not going to cut it out there. Can get kinda drafty. I tried an old 800W radiant heater i had, and it was barely keeping things comfortable when the outside temp was 50f. I'd like to relax and enjoy my cigar in toasty warmth

What about something like this? http://www.heater-store.com/original..._medium=Google
Looks simple, warm... BUT will ventilation be a problem? It's about as well ventilated as a garage...

Also, could a unit like that be moved out to my barn and used to keep a small area habitable in the winter while I was working? (dual purpose is always a plus)

spectrrr · 11-29-2011, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bobarian

Basically two options. Electric or propane. Both have their disadvantages, with electric, your meter will spin because anything that gives decent heat will use 1500w or more. Propane needs some ventilation to avoid carbon monoxide poisoning.

Adam posted these propane heaters that are a good deal. http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=51402

Thanks for the link! tempting....

BIIIIIG Question - HOW MUCH ventilation is needed?
I CAN crack a window.... but erm, doesn't that defeat the purpose, requiring you to run a much higher output heater, and thus, NOT saving any of your money?

kaisersozei · 11-29-2011, 02:04 PM

Those parabolic radiant heaters are great but they through off a ton of heat. For the size space you're talking about, I'd recommend a ceramic heater. You can find a tower type or one of the boxy ones at Target or Home Depot for under $30

spectrrr · 11-29-2011, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by kaisersozei

Those parabolic radiant heaters are great but they through off a ton of heat. For the size space you're talking about, I'd recommend a ceramic heater. You can find a tower type or one of the boxy ones at Target or Home Depot for under $30

Can I just turn it on low?

I can very much justify spending a couple extra bucks on a higher output heater if I can make a secondary use of it in the barn. I've got some projects out there I've got to get done this winter... a little warmth would be nice

bobarian · 11-29-2011, 02:15 PM

You can turn down the volume of gas on a propane heater. Cracking a window should be sufficient ventilation but to be sure I would invest an extra $20 in a battery powered carbon monoxide detector. Better to wake up to a screaming detector than to not wake up at all.

Blak Smyth · 11-29-2011, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by spectrrr

Can I just turn it on low?

I can very much justify spending a couple extra bucks on a higher output heater if I can make a secondary use of it in the barn. I've got some projects out there I've got to get done this winter... a little warmth would be nice

Sounds ideal for the barn project, but those propane heaters really do put out serious heat. If you can't get further than 4 feet away you may want to reconsider, or wear shorts and a tank top. I saw some women huddled around one at a soccer game this last week but it was outdoors. You can't turn them down too low or they will go out on you, more so if it's drafty.

coffeemonkey · 11-29-2011, 02:45 PM

check this patio heater out, on sale at Costco, the tank top heaters are OK, but the heat goes up and not very far out. The patio type reflect heat down and seem to work a bit better.

edit: apparently I can't read, you wanted one for under $100 and the patio design is probably not what you are after, but I'll leave the post anyway in case someone can benefit from the sale at Costco.

spectrrr · 11-29-2011, 03:46 PM

technically it only has to heat 1/3 of the room... the block of space occupied by my chair...

I wonder if a couple of these close by would do it... one for the feet and one for the torso? http://www.amazon.com/Optimus-H-4110...2602966&sr=8-1

something like this is bigger and looks like it would do it... but I have a feeling my feet would freeze http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product...=1&topnav=&s=1

11-29-2011, 12:47 AM	#1
spectrrr Back in the midwest! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Frank Location: Ohio Posts: 5,596 Trading: (20)	Winter outside heater recommendations? Winter is arriving and I've go a great little makeshift mancave setup outside in a little uninsulated shed. Well, it would be great, if it had a heater! I haven't measured the shed, but it's probably not more than 11x9x8, and really only 1/2 of the shed needs to be warm. Quick startup is needed - I'm not going to turn it on and come back in 45 minutes. (so a fan is probably in order... but maybe not?) Electric would be preferred, less things to worry about. Given that I'm smoking right next to the main breaker box for the property, getting a good power feed to it won't be a problem (electric may be too $$ to buy however) Heater can (and will) be positioned somewhat close to me. I can't physically put it more than 4 feet from me. $PRICE$ is a factor. I'm not worried about operational costs, as it won't be used ever day. But for the initial unit, price needs to be low! ideally less than $100. __________________ ¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨ "A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right..." -Thomas Paine

11-29-2011, 05:48 AM	#3
68TriShield Got Torque? Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dave Location: Maryland Posts: 7,194 Trading: (40)	Re: Winter outside heater recommendations? I use the round electric radiant heater,even in my 2 car garage it warms me fine and fast.

11-29-2011, 10:56 AM	#4
14holestogie Serial banter killer Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tim Location: Clintonville, WI Posts: 4,341 Trading: (52)	Re: Winter outside heater recommendations? Kerosene radiant heater for me, although you may be too confined in that small an area. I use mine in a 3-plus car garage and use it hours on end with no noticable effects. __________________ *I loves me a Parti*

11-29-2011, 11:04 AM	#5
Blak Smyth Think Blue! Join Date: Jun 2011 First Name: SD Location: THE WOOD Posts: 8,486 Trading: (52)	Re: Winter outside heater recommendations? This is what I use, it works well in a small area. The nice thing is it doesn't get HOT, so you can sit right next to it if you want. Sounds like what you are looking for. I bought it from Sears and I think it was much less than advertised in this link (Like $75): http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...&blockType=G92 __________________ SUPPORT OUR TROOPS Last edited by Blak Smyth; 11-29-2011 at 11:10 AM.

11-29-2011, 11:08 AM	#6
dave Have My Own Room Join Date: May 2011 First Name: Dave Location: Northern VA Posts: 1,180 Trading: (15)	Re: Winter outside heater recommendations? Girlfriend and I put electric one on either side of us (one round, one vertical) and works pretty good. Round one is better heater and oscillates. Howver, the light coming off the reflector is REALLY bright. PITA sometimes when pointed right at you. Was seriously considering a tabletop kerosene umbrella-type patio heater for this winter, though. Saw one the other day for $60. Threadjack alert...... Anyone know if you can change the 'input' to take large grill-size bottles instead of the little camp-stove style?

11-29-2011, 11:57 AM	#9
BlkDrew Rolling my own... Join Date: Dec 2009 First Name: Andrew Location: Rochester NY Posts: 807 Trading: (43)	Re: Winter outside heater recommendations? I like the contractor style propane heater, I use them off of a 20lb tank, lasts a while

11-29-2011, 01:23 PM	#10
CigarNut Fck Cancer! Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Michael Location: Clermont, Florida Posts: 18,042 Trading: (111*)	Re: Winter outside heater recommendations? I have one of these parabolic heaters from Costco: Works really well indoors. For outdoors I have a couple of propane heaters. __________________ Need Beads? Need Five Finger Bags? 2 of 3 Requirements for use of the CA Rolodex: 100 posts/ 60 day membership/ participation in trade (trader rating). New members can be added at any time.

11-29-2011, 01:27 PM	#11
markem Bunion Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mark Location: Second Star on the Right Posts: 22,625 Trading: (47)	Re: Winter outside heater recommendations? This is one of the ones that I have. I like this one a lot. http://www.target.com/p/Honeywell-Co...r/-/A-12821920 $6309 online from Target but I got mine in store for $55. __________________ I refuse to belong to any organization that would have me as a member. ~ Groucho Marx

11-29-2011, 01:56 PM	#12
bobarian Cranky Habanophile Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Wine Country Posts: 8,869 Trading: (51)	Re: Winter outside heater recommendations? Basically two options. Electric or propane. Both have their disadvantages, with electric, your meter will spin because anything that gives decent heat will use 1500w or more. Propane needs some ventilation to avoid carbon monoxide poisoning. Adam posted these propane heaters that are a good deal. http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=51402

11-29-2011, 01:59 PM	#13
spectrrr Back in the midwest! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Frank Location: Ohio Posts: 5,596 Trading: (20)	Re: Winter outside heater recommendations? I'm not sure a 1500W (~5200btu) heater is probably not going to cut it out there. Can get kinda drafty. I tried an old 800W radiant heater i had, and it was barely keeping things comfortable when the outside temp was 50f. I'd like to relax and enjoy my cigar in toasty warmth What about something like this? http://www.heater-store.com/original..._medium=Google Looks simple, warm... BUT will ventilation be a problem? It's about as well ventilated as a garage... Also, could a unit like that be moved out to my barn and used to keep a small area habitable in the winter while I was working? (dual purpose is always a plus) __________________ ¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨ "A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right..." -Thomas Paine

11-29-2011, 02:04 PM	#15
kaisersozei The Homebrew Hammer Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Gerard Location: Midlothian, VA Posts: 3,183 Trading: (40)	Re: Winter outside heater recommendations? Those parabolic radiant heaters are great but they through off a ton of heat. For the size space you're talking about, I'd recommend a ceramic heater. You can find a tower type or one of the boxy ones at Target or Home Depot for under $30 __________________

11-29-2011, 02:15 PM	#17
bobarian Cranky Habanophile Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Wine Country Posts: 8,869 Trading: (51)	Re: Winter outside heater recommendations? You can turn down the volume of gas on a propane heater. Cracking a window should be sufficient ventilation but to be sure I would invest an extra $20 in a battery powered carbon monoxide detector. Better to wake up to a screaming detector than to not wake up at all.

11-29-2011, 02:45 PM	#19
coffeemonkey Smoking my way to the Top Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: The Great Pacific Northwest Posts: 314 Trading: (0)	Re: Winter outside heater recommendations? check this patio heater out, on sale at Costco, the tank top heaters are OK, but the heat goes up and not very far out. The patio type reflect heat down and seem to work a bit better. edit: apparently I can't read, you wanted one for under $100 and the patio design is probably not what you are after, but I'll leave the post anyway in case someone can benefit from the sale at Costco. __________________ "I think I lost it, let me know if you come across it" Last edited by coffeemonkey; 11-29-2011 at 02:47 PM. Reason: I'm dumb

11-29-2011, 03:46 PM	#20
spectrrr Back in the midwest! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Frank Location: Ohio Posts: 5,596 Trading: (20)	Re: Winter outside heater recommendations? technically it only has to heat 1/3 of the room... the block of space occupied by my chair... I wonder if a couple of these close by would do it... one for the feet and one for the torso? http://www.amazon.com/Optimus-H-4110...2602966&sr=8-1 something like this is bigger and looks like it would do it... but I have a feeling my feet would freeze http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product...=1&topnav=&s=1 __________________ ¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨ "A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right..." -Thomas Paine