Seconds?

04-14-2011, 09:15 PM

I've often seen seconds, or, cigars with mild manufacturer defects sold for a steal. Has anyone ever purchased a batch of these? If so, what was your experience?

jmsremax · 04-14-2011, 09:17 PM

If you like Fuente smokes check out Tampa Sweethearts. They are rolled by their apprentices.

http://www.tampasweetheart.com/

Bill86 · 04-14-2011, 09:21 PM

I think one of my first purchases was a 15 bundle of MoW seconds (lonsdales if IIRC, somewhere buried). I was just starting out and it's hard to argue with $2.50 a piece Lonsdales.

I found they look the same as any other MoW I've seen and smoked just fine. In fact now that I think about it I'll bring one out to smoke tomorrow.

I just pulled one out now and it's probably 8.5/10 for construction. The cap is not perfect and it's got a one decently toothy vein. I mean for the non sale price of $2.50-$2.75 a piece I'd say go for it. They aren't banded but I could really care less.

Stinky · 04-14-2011, 09:28 PM

Hand Made Cigars with all natural tobaccos will always have a certain percentage of "seconds" that just don't . . . measure up . . . make the grade . . . cut-the-mustard . . . meet-the-standards, etc.

However, true 'seconds' are made from the same tobaccos, by the same rollers and most certainly taste and smoke the same.

Some so called 'seconds' are actually made by apprentice rollers and the tobaccos they use are not always the best "select" grades. Policies are different in each company. A true 'second' is typically a rejected finish product.

JMHO based on my personal research.

wayner123 · 04-15-2011, 09:23 AM

Here is a previous thread that has a bunch of recommendations:

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showth...hlight=second*

I personally have enjoyed seconds, and for the first 5 or so years of smoking cigars, that was pretty much all I smoked. L. Lynn is a great place to buy seconds as he has pretty much everyone of them.

floydpink · 04-15-2011, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by jmsremax

If you like Fuente smokes check out Tampa Sweethearts. They are rolled by their apprentices.

http://www.tampasweetheart.com/

I love Tampa Sweethearts.

Plus, being near Tampa, I get them in 24 hours from ordering them.

I used to bid on Rocky Patel vintage seconds all the time on Cbid, but haven't in a long time.

Brutus2600 · 04-15-2011, 09:41 AM

What is your favorite size in the Tampa Sweethearts?

floydpink · 04-15-2011, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Brutus2600

What is your favorite size in the Tampa Sweethearts?

I like the 500 maduro personally.

T.G · 04-15-2011, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Brutus2600

What is your favorite size in the Tampa Sweethearts?

about 5'7" & 36-26-34

...oh, wait, you meant cigars...

pektel · 04-15-2011, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T.G

about 5'7" & 36-26-34

...oh, wait, you meant cigars...

MurphysLaw · 04-15-2011, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T.G

about 5'7" & 36-26-34

...oh, wait, you meant cigars...

you're on a roll lately buddy!

jmsremax · 04-15-2011, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T.G

about 5'7" & 36-26-34

...oh, wait, you meant cigars...

I also love the avatar

Chemyst · 04-15-2011, 09:11 PM

I used to buy the RP X-Out 'C' from CBid, but
they haven't carried them lately.

Saw them at Thompson, iirc, for 50% more than
the usual auction winning bid.

Xlnt deal for $2.50-$2.75 ea. Compared to $8 msrp
for first quality.

They always smoked and tasted swell.

Chemyst

Bill86 · 04-15-2011, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T.G

about 5'7" & 36-26-34

...oh, wait, you meant cigars...

Sounds good!

jjirons69 · 04-18-2011, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by floydpink

I love Tampa Sweethearts.

I used to bid on Rocky Patel vintage seconds all the time on Cbid, but haven't in a long time.

and

Nothing wrong with either of these.

Starscream · 04-18-2011, 01:23 PM

I probably smoke more seconds than anything else. I'm cheap.

There are those who smoke exclusively Cuban cigars on this site, as well as those who smoke primarily high end smokes. There are also those who smoke primarily cheap smokes. I smoke some of all of them. That's what makes this board great. People from all ends of the spectrum.

Most seconds are indistinguishable from the real thing, although that's not always the case.

mfarre03 · 04-21-2011, 03:10 AM

I have had good luck with the Rocky Patel seconds, just a great cigar. It looks like I will order some Tampa Sweethearts. I didn't see a fiver listed for them, does anyone know if they offer a pack or singles? What about the Fumadores, are they a heavier smoke?

Did I mention I love this forum? lol

Kreth · 04-21-2011, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by mfarre03

I have had good luck with the Rocky Patel seconds, just a great cigar. It looks like I will order some Tampa Sweethearts. I didn't see a fiver listed for them, does anyone know if they offer a pack or singles? What about the Fumadores, are they a heavier smoke?

Did I mention I love this forum? lol

I can't comment on the Tampa Sweethearts but the Fumadores are decent smokes. I'd call them a medium. If you like other DPG sticks, you'll probably like them.
Another second I like is the Alec Bradley Supervisor Selection from Famous. If you check the vitolas, they match up with the Maxx. I smoked my way through a couple bundles of them on the golf course last year.

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nofeardiver · 04-21-2011, 09:09 AM

well crap i live in lakeland, never heard of Tampa Sweethearts till today, cant wait to check that out... Where do you get the Fumadores from? i love DPG cigars...

Kreth · 04-21-2011, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by nofeardiver

Where do you get the Fumadores from? i love DPG cigars...

Holt's has them.
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04-14-2011, 09:15 PM	#1
Jstone Guest Posts: n/a	Seconds? I've often seen seconds, or, cigars with mild manufacturer defects sold for a steal. Has anyone ever purchased a batch of these? If so, what was your experience?

04-14-2011, 09:17 PM	#2
jmsremax Yet another Masshole Join Date: Nov 2009 First Name: Jon Location: MA Posts: 1,245 Trading: (19)	Re: Seconds? If you like Fuente smokes check out Tampa Sweethearts. They are rolled by their apprentices. http://www.tampasweetheart.com/ __________________ Stock/Finance banter

04-14-2011, 09:21 PM	#3
Bill86 Snob Join Date: Jul 2010 First Name: Bill Posts: 6,704 Trading: (67)	Re: Seconds? I think one of my first purchases was a 15 bundle of MoW seconds (lonsdales if IIRC, somewhere buried). I was just starting out and it's hard to argue with $2.50 a piece Lonsdales. I found they look the same as any other MoW I've seen and smoked just fine. In fact now that I think about it I'll bring one out to smoke tomorrow. I just pulled one out now and it's probably 8.5/10 for construction. The cap is not perfect and it's got a one decently toothy vein. I mean for the non sale price of $2.50-$2.75 a piece I'd say go for it. They aren't banded but I could really care less.

04-14-2011, 09:28 PM	#4
Stinky Join CigarRights.org NOW! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Stinky Location: Las Vegas, Nevada Posts: 229 Trading: (1)	Re: Seconds? Hand Made Cigars with all natural tobaccos will always have a certain percentage of "seconds" that just don't . . . measure up . . . make the grade . . . cut-the-mustard . . . meet-the-standards, etc. However, true 'seconds' are made from the same tobaccos, by the same rollers and most certainly taste and smoke the same. Some so called 'seconds' are actually made by apprentice rollers and the tobaccos they use are not always the best "select" grades. Policies are different in each company. A true 'second' is typically a rejected finish product. JMHO based on my personal research. __________________ Promoting the Enjoyment of Fine Cigars!

04-15-2011, 09:23 AM	#5
wayner123 Country Gentleman Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Deltona, FL Posts: 2,351 Trading: (159)	Re: Seconds? Here is a previous thread that has a bunch of recommendations: http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showth...hlight=second* I personally have enjoyed seconds, and for the first 5 or so years of smoking cigars, that was pretty much all I smoked. L. Lynn is a great place to buy seconds as he has pretty much everyone of them. __________________ 'It is an honor for a man to keep aloof from strife; But every fool will be quarrelling.'

04-15-2011, 09:41 AM	#7
Brutus2600 Your resident lancerHO Join Date: Apr 2010 First Name: Brian Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 2,063 Trading: (46)	Re: Seconds? What is your favorite size in the Tampa Sweethearts? __________________ www.halfwheel.com \| news+reviews You can also follow me on Twitter @brutus2600

04-15-2011, 09:11 PM	#13
Chemyst Doin Time on Planet Earth Join Date: Feb 2009 First Name: Ken Location: So. Jersey Posts: 392 Trading: (7)	Re: Seconds? I used to buy the RP X-Out 'C' from CBid, but they haven't carried them lately. Saw them at Thompson, iirc, for 50% more than the usual auction winning bid. Xlnt deal for $2.50-$2.75 ea. Compared to $8 msrp for first quality. They always smoked and tasted swell. Chemyst __________________ Can vegans eat animal crackers?

04-18-2011, 01:23 PM	#16
Starscream Knowhutimean, Vern? Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Andy Location: In a little town somewhere in the USA Posts: 10,237 Trading: (4)	Re: Seconds? I probably smoke more seconds than anything else. I'm cheap. There are those who smoke exclusively Cuban cigars on this site, as well as those who smoke primarily high end smokes. There are also those who smoke primarily cheap smokes. I smoke some of all of them. That's what makes this board great. People from all ends of the spectrum. Most seconds are indistinguishable from the real thing, although that's not always the case. __________________ Insert quote here.

04-21-2011, 03:10 AM	#17
mfarre03 Never pet a burning dog.. Join Date: Apr 2011 First Name: Mike Location: Lockport, NY Posts: 280 Trading: (3)	Re: Seconds? I have had good luck with the Rocky Patel seconds, just a great cigar. It looks like I will order some Tampa Sweethearts. I didn't see a fiver listed for them, does anyone know if they offer a pack or singles? What about the Fumadores, are they a heavier smoke? Did I mention I love this forum? lol

04-21-2011, 09:09 AM	#19
nofeardiver Feeling at Home Join Date: Aug 2009 First Name: Dan Location: Florida Posts: 561 Trading: (4)	Re: Seconds? well crap i live in lakeland, never heard of Tampa Sweethearts till today, cant wait to check that out... Where do you get the Fumadores from? i love DPG cigars...