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Old 01-19-2011, 05:41 PM   #1
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Default Drew Estates Flying Pig rolling photos

Over in Stephen's (zappaFREAK) review thread of the Flying Pig, Dave (Dave128) and I ended up talking about some things regarding the rolling of these cigars, and I told Dave I would post some pictures of the procedure, but I wanted to take the discussion over to it's own thread as not to completely jack Steve's thread, so, here we go...

First off, I'd like to apologize for the quality of some of the photos - there were a number of us crammed into a very tiny walkway between benches and each of us was trying to simultaneously listen to Jonathan, smoke a cigar, not burn the BOTL next to you with your cigar, watch what was going on and take some photos.

Here is the cigar being bunched and the capote (binder) being applied. As you can see, it's really not that different from any other cigar, EXCEPT for the final step before it goes into the mold. As seen in the fourth photo, the bunchero uses a loop hook, something resembling a very thin crochet hook or loop. He will stick the loop about 1/4" into the filler and then yank it back out, which removes a bit of the tobacco leaf. He'll do this in a circular pattern just in from the edge a bit and then a few stabs in the center. He then flips the cigar over and does the head. This allows the cigar to fit into the mold and be pressed with the rounded ends.





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Old 01-19-2011, 05:42 PM   #2
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Default Re: Drew Estates Flying Pig rolling photos

The application of the capa (wrapper) isn't really that different from any other figurado except for the extra wraps at the foot and the tail, which the rollera can be seen creating here.





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Old 01-19-2011, 05:42 PM   #3
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nice pics, just wish i enjoyed the cigars more
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Old 01-19-2011, 05:44 PM   #4
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very interesting stuff there. thank you for the pictures
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Old 01-19-2011, 05:48 PM   #5
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Nice Pics & Story, Adam! Thanks!
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Old 01-19-2011, 05:50 PM   #6
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Nicely done.
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Old 01-19-2011, 05:51 PM   #7
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Excellent pictures! I really enjoy seeing gifted rollers performing their craft.
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Old 01-19-2011, 05:52 PM   #8
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Very cool pics thanks for posting
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Old 01-19-2011, 05:56 PM   #9
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Cool pics. Thanks for posting them.
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Old 01-19-2011, 06:02 PM   #10
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Default Re: Drew Estates Flying Pig rolling photos

Love the thread and pics! very informative.

I'm curious...Has DE ever posted a video of it being done?

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Old 01-19-2011, 06:06 PM   #11
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Default Re: Drew Estates Flying Pig rolling photos

Another question!

I read through the other thread and noticed you said all buncheros were male, all rollers female. Is there a rationale behind the gender bias?

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Old 01-19-2011, 06:07 PM   #12
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Cool pics!!

You should have yelled "ROLL FASTER!!!" hahaaaa
We need more piggies!!
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Old 01-19-2011, 06:27 PM   #13
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Default Re: Drew Estates Flying Pig rolling photos

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Love the thread and pics! very informative.

I'm curious...Has DE ever posted a video of it being done?

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I don't think they have. I'll shoot Johnny Brooke an email and ask though.




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Another question!

I read through the other thread and noticed you said all buncheros were male, all rollers female. Is there a rationale behind the gender bias?

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Their hands.

Typically speaking, men have larger hands and much greater strength in their hands. Besides being able to hold the entire filler bunch of tobacco for a cigar while simultaneously folding the leaves, there's a lot of compressing of the tobacco that has to happen while rolling it into the capote (binder). They can also easier hold the bunch under compression mid-roll if they need to adjust the capote.

There's really no requirement for hand strength for applying the capa (wrapper) but a delicate touch, good manual dexterity and small fingers to right up to the edge of the cigar and smooth out the capa as it's applied is.
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Cool stuff...thanks for sharing.
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Great photos thanks
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Are those plastic molds?
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Great Pics! Thanks for sharing them!
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Great pics, thanks for sharing!
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Great thread and pix, thanx for sharing.
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