Active or passive humidification?

Neens · 01-07-2011, 01:01 AM

I know it gets asked alot and I'm sorry but here goes. I'm going to be building a new humidor and plan to start in about a week or two. It's going have about 10-11 cubic feet of space. So it would need like 5 or 6 lbs of beads or some kind of active system, I'm just not sure which. I'm thinking there are people here who know much more than I do so I might as well put it out there. Also if active what types should I be looking at? Thanks for the help guys.

bobarian · 01-07-2011, 01:12 AM

Most large cabinets have active systems. I would contact Bob Staebell at Aristocrat Humidors regarding his Set and Forget system.

icehog3 · 01-07-2011, 01:12 AM

For something that you might want to look into a Cigar Oasis or similar type of active humidification. The beads might be more work than needed during the winter months.

icehog3 · 01-07-2011, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by bobarian

Most large cabinets have active systems. I would contact Bob Staebell at Aristocrat Humidors regarding his Set and Forget system.

Do you think the Set and Forget could be overkill for a humi of only 10 cubic feet, Bob? Maybe I am picturing the size wrong in my head.

01-07-2011, 07:56 AM

an avallo 1200 is roughly 10 cu ft. active is certainly not overkill. in fact, a lot of our customers use a pound of beads along with the provided electronic accumonitor.

bobarian · 01-07-2011, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

Do you think the Set and Forget could be overkill for a humi of only 10 cubic feet, Bob? Maybe I am picturing the size wrong in my head.

Right on the border, Admiral. A MoistNAir could probably handle 10cuft but an Oasis would probably have a hard time.

DennisP · 01-07-2011, 01:48 PM

The Cigar Oasis XL Plus goes up to 10 cu. ft. I'd go with that and 1 lb beads, or similar.

Volusianator · 01-07-2011, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Neens

I'm going to be building a new humidor and plan to start in about a week or two.

First off, good luck with your build. My only advice, know for sure what your humidification is before you start the project. Much easier to plan ahead than to redesign midstream.

Neens · 01-07-2011, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Volusianator

First off, good luck with your build. My only advice, know for sure what your humidification is before you start the project. Much easier to plan ahead than to redesign midstream.

Thanks. I'm going to get my system in hand before I start building. I'm thinking the shell will be about 33 high 25 wide and 25 deep to give you a better idea

icehog3 · 01-07-2011, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by bobarian

Right on the border, Admiral. A MoistNAir could probably handle 10cuft but an Oasis would probably have a hard time.

Thanks Bob....got a decent idea of the size after looking at Ron's site.

Bubba - NJ · 01-07-2011, 09:20 PM

I have a Hydra LG and am not very happy with it(sent 1st one back) . I paid less then half of what they sell for at CI(got it from Cbid). It takes the humidity reading right at the unit which means other areas of your cabinet wont be the same humidity . I did modify it as Waffle did mention in his thread and it is a bit better . Mold was growing on the floral foam after a month so that has been replaced with water beads . I also have about 2lbs of Heartfelt beads inside my cabinet that really helps to stabilize humidity . The Aristocrat set and forget system is probably worth the money for piece of mind .

Neens · 01-10-2011, 04:01 PM

Thanks for the advice guys. I talked to a few builders and picked out a system. I'm thinking I will also be putting some beads in it help out.

justonemorestick · 01-10-2011, 05:29 PM

I think you are beyond passive beads. At least for the primary Humidification perhaps a couple of lbs of beads/KL to assist but I am not aware of anywhere that a passive system is used on such a large scale.

Neens · 01-10-2011, 10:38 PM

Ya I am putting in an active system and then im doing to put some beads around to help it out.

01-07-2011, 01:01 AM	#1
Neens Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Dec 2010 First Name: Anthony Location: Orange, CT Posts: 349 Trading: (21)	Active or passive humidification? I know it gets asked alot and I'm sorry but here goes. I'm going to be building a new humidor and plan to start in about a week or two. It's going have about 10-11 cubic feet of space. So it would need like 5 or 6 lbs of beads or some kind of active system, I'm just not sure which. I'm thinking there are people here who know much more than I do so I might as well put it out there. Also if active what types should I be looking at? Thanks for the help guys.

01-07-2011, 01:12 AM	#2
bobarian Cranky Habanophile Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Wine Country Posts: 8,869 Trading: (51)	Re: Active or passive humidification? Most large cabinets have active systems. I would contact Bob Staebell at Aristocrat Humidors regarding his Set and Forget system.

01-07-2011, 01:12 AM	#3
icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 71,441 Trading: (60)	Re: Active or passive humidification? For something that you might want to look into a Cigar Oasis or similar type of active humidification. The beads might be more work than needed during the winter months. __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!

01-07-2011, 07:56 AM	#5
RonC Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Active or passive humidification? an avallo 1200 is roughly 10 cu ft. active is certainly not overkill. in fact, a lot of our customers use a pound of beads along with the provided electronic accumonitor.

01-07-2011, 01:48 PM	#7
DennisP Come Get It Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: S.H.I.T. country Posts: 1,532 Trading: (17)	Re: Active or passive humidification? The Cigar Oasis XL Plus goes up to 10 cu. ft. I'd go with that and 1 lb beads, or similar.

01-07-2011, 09:20 PM	#11
Bubba - NJ Deep Cherry Finish Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Rolf Location: Tatooine Posts: 780 Trading: (4)	Re: Active or passive humidification? I have a Hydra LG and am not very happy with it(sent 1st one back) . I paid less then half of what they sell for at CI(got it from Cbid). It takes the humidity reading right at the unit which means other areas of your cabinet wont be the same humidity . I did modify it as Waffle did mention in his thread and it is a bit better . Mold was growing on the floral foam after a month so that has been replaced with water beads . I also have about 2lbs of Heartfelt beads inside my cabinet that really helps to stabilize humidity . The Aristocrat set and forget system is probably worth the money for piece of mind . __________________ Royale with cheese

01-10-2011, 04:01 PM	#12
Neens Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Dec 2010 First Name: Anthony Location: Orange, CT Posts: 349 Trading: (21)	Re: Active or passive humidification? Thanks for the advice guys. I talked to a few builders and picked out a system. I'm thinking I will also be putting some beads in it help out.

01-10-2011, 05:29 PM	#13
justonemorestick Kat Krap Kontanment Media Join Date: Oct 2010 First Name: Warren Location: Las Cruces Posts: 292 Trading: (13)	Re: Active or passive humidification? I think you are beyond passive beads. At least for the primary Humidification perhaps a couple of lbs of beads/KL to assist but I am not aware of anywhere that a passive system is used on such a large scale. __________________ This message was created entirely of recycled electrons, manufactured before 1899 in an effort to prevent global de-electrification.

01-10-2011, 10:38 PM	#14
Neens Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Dec 2010 First Name: Anthony Location: Orange, CT Posts: 349 Trading: (21)	Re: Active or passive humidification? Ya I am putting in an active system and then im doing to put some beads around to help it out.