Extensive Aging and the Milder Cigar...

10-28-2010, 07:03 PM

I was perusing a copy of CA from April in the barber shop today. In the section where they do the vintage cigar ratings, I noticed the following review of a Dominican Davidoff from 1996, which was rated at 90 points:

Davidoff Special B (1996)

An early success story for this brand’s move to the Dominican Republic. This tapered lonsdale, which is not in production any longer, is very fresh with notes of dried flowers and cloves. Medium bodied, with a lot of refinement and a perfect draw. —James Suckling

I was surprised to see such enthusiasm for a nearly 15 year old Dominican cigar that was not a powerhouse to begin with. I would expect this cigar to be a total airball by now. Has anyone ever smoked a similar type of cigar at such an advanced age? If so, how was it?

Cheers,
G

10-28-2010, 08:12 PM

I know a guy who smoked a 90yo unmentionable and said it had great
flavors w/ a spice/pepper kick at the very end!

10-28-2010, 08:43 PM

I can't speak as much on "extensive aging," but I know from experience that more moderate age (2-5 years) can add a tremendous amount of flavor to a milder cigar. In fact, I'm willing to state for the record that I think the idea that milder cigars don't age well is a myth. The change may not be as dramatic as with a cigar that started out very spicey, but it can be great.

Just for one example, my Tobacco Baez from 2-years-ago (admittedly not a lot of age/rest) are getting significantly better than the fresh ones I've had. They are actually MORE spicy and have a lot more flavor.

I also have some CAO Gold from 2002/3, and those are also much nice imvho than they are new. They may have lost a bit of nuance, but they buttery core on those is just awesome.

LasciviousXXX · 10-28-2010, 09:03 PM

I can attest to the fact that many milder cigars age fantastically when stored and kept properly. A testament to this fact are the Cuban Davidoff's from the 70's and early 80's. I have had ones that are fantastic and absolutely delicious.

I would go into more detail but I'm supposed to be working LOL

nick2021 · 10-29-2010, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by njstone

I can't speak as much on "extensive aging," but I know from experience that more moderate age (2-5 years) can add a tremendous amount of flavor to a milder cigar. In fact, I'm willing to state for the record that I think the idea that milder cigars don't age well is a myth. The change may not be as dramatic as with a cigar that started out very spicey, but it can be great.

Just for one example, my Tobacco Baez from 2-years-ago (admittedly not a lot of age/rest) are getting significantly better than the fresh ones I've had. They are actually MORE spicy and have a lot more flavor.

I also have some CAO Gold from 2002/3, and those are also much nice imvho than they are new. They may have lost a bit of nuance, but they buttery core on those is just awesome.

A lot of people have said the opposite regarding the aging of mild cigars...interesting to see the different responses in this thread!

Bill86 · 10-29-2010, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by LasciviousXXX

I can attest to the fact that many milder cigars age fantastically when stored and kept properly. A testament to this fact are the Cuban Davidoff's from the 70's and early 80's. I have had ones that are fantastic and absolutely delicious.

I would go into more detail but I'm supposed to be working LOL

Working is overrated....Man I wish I had a Davidoff that old O_O....Man lucky people. There's a million reasons I wish I grew up about 20-30 years earlier.......the music was Actually good too!

kaisersozei · 10-29-2010, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill86

Working is overrated....Man I wish I had a Davidoff that old O_O....Man lucky people. There's a million reasons I wish I grew up about 20-30 years earlier.......the music was Actually good too!

The good news is that the music, you can still get today.

Those cigars, not so much.

sikk50 · 10-29-2010, 01:38 PM

I can't attest to this as cigars are fully aged at 3 years....I would never let a cigar age past that.

benedic08 · 10-29-2010, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by sikk50

I can't attest to this as cigars are fully aged at 3 years....I would never let a cigar age past that.

You cant break the rule of 3's.....

ashtonlady · 10-29-2010, 01:51 PM

One of the best cigars I smoked was an Ashton Cabinet #1 10 years of age on it. Mild cigars seem to smooth out, not loose there flavor.

T.G · 10-29-2010, 01:58 PM

I have some N/C Zino panatellas from around that same era, phenomenal cigar, even today.

10-28-2010, 08:12 PM	#2
whodeeni Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Extensive Aging and the Milder Cigar... I know a guy who smoked a 90yo unmentionable and said it had great flavors w/ a spice/pepper kick at the very end!

10-28-2010, 08:43 PM	#3
njstone Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Extensive Aging and the Milder Cigar... I can't speak as much on "extensive aging," but I know from experience that more moderate age (2-5 years) can add a tremendous amount of flavor to a milder cigar. In fact, I'm willing to state for the record that I think the idea that milder cigars don't age well is a myth. The change may not be as dramatic as with a cigar that started out very spicey, but it can be great. Just for one example, my Tobacco Baez from 2-years-ago (admittedly not a lot of age/rest) are getting significantly better than the fresh ones I've had. They are actually MORE spicy and have a lot more flavor. I also have some CAO Gold from 2002/3, and those are also much nice imvho than they are new. They may have lost a bit of nuance, but they buttery core on those is just awesome.

10-28-2010, 09:03 PM	#4
LasciviousXXX Team of 11...Always Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Týr Location: New Orleans Posts: 4,579 Trading: (8)	Re: Extensive Aging and the Milder Cigar... I can attest to the fact that many milder cigars age fantastically when stored and kept properly. A testament to this fact are the Cuban Davidoff's from the 70's and early 80's. I have had ones that are fantastic and absolutely delicious. I would go into more detail but I'm supposed to be working LOL

10-29-2010, 01:38 PM	#8
sikk50 Just Bored Really... Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Andrew Location: The Jefferson State Posts: 2,084 Trading: (13)	Re: Extensive Aging and the Milder Cigar... I can't attest to this as cigars are fully aged at 3 years....I would never let a cigar age past that. __________________ "Not a Headache in a Hogshead"

10-29-2010, 01:51 PM	#10
ashtonlady The Lady is Here Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Laura Location: Seattle WA Posts: 1,090 Trading: (8)	Re: Extensive Aging and the Milder Cigar... One of the best cigars I smoked was an Ashton Cabinet #1 10 years of age on it. Mild cigars seem to smooth out, not loose there flavor.

10-28-2010, 07:03 PM	#1
Martel Guest Posts: n/a	Extensive Aging and the Milder Cigar... I was perusing a copy of CA from April in the barber shop today. In the section where they do the vintage cigar ratings, I noticed the following review of a Dominican Davidoff from 1996, which was rated at 90 points: Davidoff Special B (1996) An early success story for this brand’s move to the Dominican Republic. This tapered lonsdale, which is not in production any longer, is very fresh with notes of dried flowers and cloves. Medium bodied, with a lot of refinement and a perfect draw. —James Suckling I was surprised to see such enthusiasm for a nearly 15 year old Dominican cigar that was not a powerhouse to begin with. I would expect this cigar to be a total airball by now. Has anyone ever smoked a similar type of cigar at such an advanced age? If so, how was it? Cheers, G

10-29-2010, 01:58 PM	#11
T.G Grrrrrr Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: The Other Adam Posts: 15,557 Trading: (37)	Re: Extensive Aging and the Milder Cigar... I have some N/C Zino panatellas from around that same era, phenomenal cigar, even today.