Question about storage in a vino

Costa · 10-31-2008, 12:03 AM

Hey guys, I actually have two questions. Would appreciate your help:

1) is it ok to have a vino without any fans (like oust fans)?

2) can you pack the vino TOO much? Meaning, can it be packed too tight where there is no movement of air, and that can be a problem?

My vino is packed pretty tight, the oust fans are jammed behind boxes, and just had me a little concerned. Wanted to get my fellow BOTL's input. Thanks in advance guys.

bobarian · 10-31-2008, 12:15 AM

FWIW that sounds like my Vino's as well. Jammed to the gills. Stale air is a problem, but I dont think that will be the case. I have just recently unplugged both of mine, but I open them every couple of days. So I think that the air exchange should prevent stale air from becoming a problem.

Costa · 10-31-2008, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by bobarian

FWIW that sounds like my Vino's as well. Jammed to the gills. Stale air is a problem, but I dont think that will be the case. I have just recently unplugged both of mine, but I open them every couple of days. So I think that the air exchange should prevent stale air from becoming a problem.

Yep, getting ready to unplug mine as well. So, no oust or any other fans? Stupid question, but why is stale air a problem. And thank you for your input.

groogs · 10-31-2008, 12:27 AM

I have mine packed to max capacity, and there has never been a problem. I have recently unpluged mine as well, and I don't plan on adding any fans. I usually open mine ever few days to dig a smoke out, so stale air isn't a problem. I would also like to know what the stale air would do to harm the smokes.

bobarian · 10-31-2008, 12:39 AM

Stale air is what grandma's house smells like. Sometimes you get a box(mainly seems to happen to cardboard) that smells musty. Doesnt ruin the smoke but it takes a while to get rid of the mustiness once it gets into the cigar. I have my oust fans laying on top of my beads as there is no other place to put them.

ucla695 · 10-31-2008, 07:43 AM

Among other things, I think the lack of air circulation has more to do with evening out the RH in the unit to make sure that all of the sticks are properly humidified.

10-31-2008, 08:05 AM

I've always been interested in getting a vino. Where would you guys recommend one look for a vino at a decent price?

BigAsh · 10-31-2008, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by groogs

I have recently unpluged mine as well, and I don't plan on adding any fans. ..... .

Unplugging as in the entire vino?.....What are your thoughts on that?....Is that common practice?

10-31-2008, 08:54 AM

This time of year the ambient temperature in your home should be comfortable - so why put the cigars through the extra stress of the cooling cycle and associated humidity swings?

Costa · 10-31-2008, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BigAsh

Unplugging as in the entire vino?.....What are your thoughts on that?....Is that common practice?

I live in New England, so its the same as stated above. Whn I'm not at home heat goes down to 60, inside Vino usually stays about 63, when I'm home its may be 68-70, vino stays about 65-66, so that works for me.

I'm still concerned about no oust fans and dead air though.......

gettysburgfreak · 10-31-2008, 09:09 AM

my vino is unplugged as my basement right now is about 60*. I also do not have any oust fans and I havent noticed any problems, as long as you open it every few days you should be fine.

zmancbr · 10-31-2008, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by gettysburgfreak

my vino is unplugged as my basement right now is about 60*. I also do not have any oust fans and I havent noticed any problems, as long as you open it every few days you should be fine.

My main questions is how could you not open it every few days?

These sticks are our babies and they need love and attention! I have to get in my humi just about every other day min. Why? Idk.. just because!

mmblz · 10-31-2008, 10:28 AM

I would not recommend storing cigars in wine. The RH will be way too high, and it will impart a funny flavor.

White97Jimmy · 10-31-2008, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by mmblz

I would not recommend storing cigars in wine. The RH will be way too high, and it will impart a funny flavor.

Maybe they like Acids. To each their own

Costa · 10-31-2008, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by mmblz

I would not recommend storing cigars in wine. The RH will be way too high, and it will impart a funny flavor.

Damn! And I thought it was just plugged CC's! Thanks!

Raralith · 10-31-2008, 11:00 AM

I don't have fans in mine, but I do notice that my top and middle are rock solid 65rh and my bottom is almost 70rh. I do not ave Oust fans, but I am going to put in 2 PC fans inside which should help airflow (1-2 CFM Oust vs 20-30 computer fans).

No problem with it being jam packed as long as it's in a sealed environment where you don't have ups and downs in rh such as opening it every hour or so.

10-31-2008, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ucla695

Among other things, I think the lack of air circulation has more to do with evening out the RH in the unit to make sure that all of the sticks are properly humidified.

Very good point Mike.

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Originally Posted by doblemaduro

I've always been interested in getting a vino. Where would you guys recommend one look for a vino at a decent price?

Target - I've heard they've been as low as $50 on clearance for the 28-bottle Vino (which is what us fellers have). I bought mine a month ago for $139....ooof.

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Originally Posted by ElkTwin

This time of year the ambient temperature in your home should be comfortable - so why put the cigars through the extra stress of the cooling cycle and associated humidity swings?

Ah, it's been up into 100 out here in L.A. this week so I keep my a runnin'.

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Originally Posted by mmblz

I would not recommend storing cigars in wine. The RH will be way too high, and it will impart a funny flavor.

As for Oust fans....where the heck do you plug 'em in, within the Vino? Is the fan that comes with the Vino not sufficient?

romwarrior · 10-31-2008, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by mrreindeer

As for Oust fans....where the heck do you plug 'em in, within the Vino? Is the fan that comes with the Vino not sufficient?

Oust fans run on batteries. That is why they are so popular.

I bought Oust fans a while ago but I don't use them in my Vino. The Vino fan runs enough here in hot SoCal that there is enough air circulation. I'm usually digging into it every couple days anyway so that helps.

romwarrior · 10-31-2008, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Costa

2) can you pack the vino TOO much? Meaning, can it be packed too tight where there is no movement of air, and that can be a problem?

To me, I would only be concerned if you have boxes right up against the Vino fan and block the air too much. This could possibly burn out the fan or the box could absorb any condensation. My Vino is packed incredibly tight but I always make sure there is a couple inches of space around the fan. I haven't noticed any problems (and as stated earlier, I don't use my Oust fans - mainly because they take up room that is better used for more boxes!)

markem · 10-31-2008, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by mmblz

I would not recommend storing cigars in wine. The RH will be way too high, and it will impart a funny flavor.

Oh crap, you mean that these NC Davidoff Red Ripple cigars might not taste correct?

That's what I get for buying a cigar named for my favorite table wine.

10-31-2008, 12:03 AM	#1
Costa Cohibo Aficionado Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Craig Location: Here Posts: 199 Trading: (1)	Question about storage in a vino Hey guys, I actually have two questions. Would appreciate your help: 1) is it ok to have a vino without any fans (like oust fans)? 2) can you pack the vino TOO much? Meaning, can it be packed too tight where there is no movement of air, and that can be a problem? My vino is packed pretty tight, the oust fans are jammed behind boxes, and just had me a little concerned. Wanted to get my fellow BOTL's input. Thanks in advance guys. __________________ It was the quintessential cc experience. Totally plugged, tasted like a burning straw hat, and made me all upset instead of relaxed. - shilala

10-31-2008, 12:15 AM	#2
bobarian Cranky Habanophile Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Wine Country Posts: 8,869 Trading: (51)	Re: Question about storage in a vino FWIW that sounds like my Vino's as well. Jammed to the gills. Stale air is a problem, but I dont think that will be the case. I have just recently unplugged both of mine, but I open them every couple of days. So I think that the air exchange should prevent stale air from becoming a problem.

10-31-2008, 12:27 AM	#4
groogs Have My Own Room Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Grant Posts: 1,945 Trading: (62)	Re: Question about storage in a vino I have mine packed to max capacity, and there has never been a problem. I have recently unpluged mine as well, and I don't plan on adding any fans. I usually open mine ever few days to dig a smoke out, so stale air isn't a problem. I would also like to know what the stale air would do to harm the smokes.

10-31-2008, 12:39 AM	#5
bobarian Cranky Habanophile Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Wine Country Posts: 8,869 Trading: (51)	Re: Question about storage in a vino Stale air is what grandma's house smells like. Sometimes you get a box(mainly seems to happen to cardboard) that smells musty. Doesnt ruin the smoke but it takes a while to get rid of the mustiness once it gets into the cigar. I have my oust fans laying on top of my beads as there is no other place to put them.

10-31-2008, 07:43 AM	#6
ucla695 Neither here, nor there Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: The Pool Posts: 3,696 Trading: (5)	Re: Question about storage in a vino Among other things, I think the lack of air circulation has more to do with evening out the RH in the unit to make sure that all of the sticks are properly humidified.

10-31-2008, 08:05 AM	#7
doblemaduro Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Question about storage in a vino I've always been interested in getting a vino. Where would you guys recommend one look for a vino at a decent price?

10-31-2008, 08:54 AM	#9
ElkTwin Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Question about storage in a vino This time of year the ambient temperature in your home should be comfortable - so why put the cigars through the extra stress of the cooling cycle and associated humidity swings?

10-31-2008, 09:09 AM	#11
gettysburgfreak Patriot Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: The Mitten Posts: 1,442 Trading: (2)	Re: Question about storage in a vino my vino is unplugged as my basement right now is about 60*. I also do not have any oust fans and I havent noticed any problems, as long as you open it every few days you should be fine. __________________ Author ofeath, Disease, and Life at War: The Civil War Letters of Surgeon James D. Benton, 111th and 98th New York Infantry Regiments, 1862-1865.

10-31-2008, 10:28 AM	#13
mmblz .090909... Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: NH Posts: 4,031 Trading: (3)	Re: Question about storage in a vino I would not recommend storing cigars in wine. The RH will be way too high, and it will impart a funny flavor. __________________ herf wear

10-31-2008, 11:00 AM	#16
Raralith Death to the Unbelievers Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Southern California Posts: 475 Trading: (24)	Re: Question about storage in a vino I don't have fans in mine, but I do notice that my top and middle are rock solid 65rh and my bottom is almost 70rh. I do not ave Oust fans, but I am going to put in 2 PC fans inside which should help airflow (1-2 CFM Oust vs 20-30 computer fans). No problem with it being jam packed as long as it's in a sealed environment where you don't have ups and downs in rh such as opening it every hour or so.