Arrrgh..California Cigar Prices...

MarkinAZ · 10-30-2008, 07:49 PM

Well, I've calmed down a bit now. I recently ascertained today that the City of Valencia now has a third B&M located near the intersection of McBean Parkway and Town Center Drive. I found out this one carries the 601 series and since our other 2 B&M's do not, I decided to pay a quick visit late this afternoon to see what exactly they carry in this line. Upon arrival, I found their humidor was well stocked with all the latest super-duper super-premium "boutique" cigars. They carried 3 of the 4 601's (not the Red which I was hoping for). Here comes the shocker for you non-Californians. This proprietor wanted $10.99 + tax for a 601 Green La Fuerza. I repeat $10.99+ tax!!! WHAT A BUNCH OF HORSE PUCKY

I simply refuse to pay that type of money for a cigar. And, you don't even want to know what he was trying to get away with regarding DPG's and Tatuaje's.

Note: For you inmates living in the Southern, Midwest, and Eastern states, just count your blessings that you don't have to purchase a stogie here. Thank goodness for online retailers

cort · 10-30-2008, 07:53 PM

I feel your pain Mark.

As much as I would love to support the local shops it is just not affordable for me. I may stop in for a stick or two but 98% of my purchases are online because the prices are so high locally.

I know that it is my duty to pay my CA taxes on purchases but COME ON!! I will be an internet bandit for now.

groogs · 10-30-2008, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkinCA

Note: For you inmates living in the Southern, Midwest, and Eastern states, just count your blessings that you don't have to purchase a stogie here. Thank goodness for online retailers

I am right there with you. I still buy smokes at my local B&M becasue I like to support the small business, but for my box purchases, I always have to turn to the online retailers.

10-30-2008, 08:01 PM

i with you there mark i was born in ontario cali i moved out of the about three years ago it was the best move i ever made

brigey57 · 10-30-2008, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkinCA

Well, I've calmed down a bit now. I recently ascertained today that the City of Valencia now has a third B&M located near the intersection of McBean Parkway and Town Center Drive. I found out this one carries the 601 series and since our other 2 B&M's do not, I decided to pay a quick visit late this afternoon to see what exactly they carry in this line. Upon arrival, I found their humidor was well stocked with all the latest super-duper super-premium "boutique" cigars. They carried 3 of the 4 601's (not the Red which I was hoping for). Here comes the shocker for you non-Californians. This proprietor wanted $10.99 + tax for a 601 Green La Fuerza. I repeat $10.99+ tax!!! WHAT A BUNCH OF HORSE PUCKY

I simply refuse to pay that type of money for a cigar. And, you don't even want to know what he was trying to get away with regarding DPG's and Tatuaje's.

Note: For you inmates living in the Southern, Midwest, and Eastern states, just count your blessings that you don't have to purchase a stogie here. Thank goodness for online retailers

I'm sorry you have to pay such punitive prices for cigars because you have folks, and I'm being generous here, in your state who feel that they have to tax citizens for enjoying a totally legal product.
I know for one I'm sick and tired of it.

huero71 · 10-30-2008, 08:09 PM

Prices aren't quite that high here in Tulare/Visalia, but they're close. I like to drop into the local B&M for a cigar once in a while, but I do a lot of my box purchases online and at David's in Rancho C. when I'm in that area every couple of months. The shop there has a great selection, and the prices are a lot better than up here.

MarkinAZ · 10-30-2008, 08:20 PM

Out of the 3 B&M's here in Valencia, I most always support Valencia Cigars. The owner is very knowledgeable and personable, knows a number of folks in the industry, generally maintains a good core supply of brands (he's awaiting his supply at this time of 601's), and his prices are within means at times. I'm hoping his prices on 601's will be affordable upon arrival at his shop

Ashcan Bill · 10-30-2008, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkinCA

McBean Parkway and Town Center Drive

That be some pricey real estate, pardner.

Offhand, I can't think of anything that isn't expensive in Cali. And getting worse all the time.

Ratters · 10-30-2008, 09:28 PM

Well, we're gonna share the wealth after Obama gets elected and the cigar tax that Bush vetoed goes through.

But yeah, for the meantime I'll buy sticks from the B&M but wouldn't dream of buying a box.

groogs · 10-30-2008, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Ratters

Well, we're gonna share the wealth after Obama gets elected and the cigar tax that Bush vetoed goes through.

But yeah, for the meantime I'll buy sticks from the B&M but wouldn't dream of buying a box.

That is why I have been stocking up.

ucla695 · 10-30-2008, 10:07 PM

I also feel your pain. I buy singles from the local B&Ms and boxes when they're in the same ballpark as online dealers. But I refuse to get gouged and pay out of the wazoo for hard to find sticks like Opus and Anejos.

I'm afraid if Obama becomes prez.

Raralith · 10-30-2008, 10:36 PM

I still love my local B&M, but you're right, prices are high. I was in Cenza in Pasadena, $15 for Tat's, $17 for Ashton Heritage and than the 8.25% additional state tax. They do have specials though, 30% off on Sundays in November, but even so, you can't compare it to online prices.

MarkinAZ · 10-30-2008, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Raralith

I still love my local B&M, but you're right, prices are high. I was in Cenza in Pasadena, $15 for Tat's, $17 for Ashton Heritage and than the 8.25% additional state tax.

Cenza is on Green Street aren't they?

Mugen910 · 10-30-2008, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkinCA

Note: For you inmates living in the Southern, Midwest, and Eastern states, just count your blessings that you don't have to purchase a stogie here. Thank goodness for online retailers

You let me know what you need and I'll buy'em here for ya to ship...$11 for a 601 is crazy!

weak_link · 10-30-2008, 10:56 PM

48% tax. Yep, that's fair.

10-30-2008, 11:40 PM

Still need to support the B&M or they will disappear.

Tazziedevil · 10-30-2008, 11:55 PM

...Just be glad you don't live in Australia!

I'd kill to only pay 10.99 + tax!!

i last paid just under $30AUD for a ERDM corona!

Prefy · 10-31-2008, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Tazziedevil

...Just be glad you don't live in Australia!

I'd kill to only pay 10.99 + tax!!

i last paid just under $30AUD for a ERDM corona!

I agree with tazzie your tax might be high in California but pails in comparison to how we are taxed north of the boarder.

To put this in perspective an Ashton VSG Robusto runs about $23 up here.

Skywalker · 10-31-2008, 12:22 AM

Yeah I have a B&M selling for the same price!!! Sorry Mark that is the price we pay for having so many other benefits!!! Like having a movie star Governor, Sunshine, Beaches, etc...

dannyboy · 10-31-2008, 02:30 AM

Same thing here in HI, ridiculous taxes, high rent, and needing to ship everything in, makes for some really high prices. I wouldn't mind paying them if we had a B&M with a decent selection. I could at least try singles and see if they were worth a 5-pack or box from online.

10-30-2008, 07:49 PM	#1
MarkinAZ Formerly MarkinOR Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mark Location: Sun City West, AZ Posts: 6,221 Trading: (40)	Arrrgh..California Cigar Prices... Well, I've calmed down a bit now. I recently ascertained today that the City of Valencia now has a third B&M located near the intersection of McBean Parkway and Town Center Drive. I found out this one carries the 601 series and since our other 2 B&M's do not, I decided to pay a quick visit late this afternoon to see what exactly they carry in this line. Upon arrival, I found their humidor was well stocked with all the latest super-duper super-premium "boutique" cigars. They carried 3 of the 4 601's (not the Red which I was hoping for). Here comes the shocker for you non-Californians. This proprietor wanted $10.99 + tax for a 601 Green La Fuerza. I repeat $10.99+ tax!!! WHAT A BUNCH OF HORSE PUCKY I simply refuse to pay that type of money for a cigar. And, you don't even want to know what he was trying to get away with regarding DPG's and Tatuaje's. Note: For you inmates living in the Southern, Midwest, and Eastern states, just count your blessings that you don't have to purchase a stogie here. Thank goodness for online retailers __________________ "Don't worry, God will work out His plan for your life..." Psalm 138 8

10-30-2008, 07:53 PM	#2
cort ◤◢◣◥ Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Gary Posts: 4,478 Trading: (41)	Re: Arrrgh..California Cigar Prices... I feel your pain Mark. As much as I would love to support the local shops it is just not affordable for me. I may stop in for a stick or two but 98% of my purchases are online because the prices are so high locally. I know that it is my duty to pay my CA taxes on purchases but COME ON!! I will be an internet bandit for now.

10-30-2008, 08:01 PM	#4
robertw1249 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Arrrgh..California Cigar Prices... i with you there mark i was born in ontario cali i moved out of the about three years ago it was the best move i ever made

10-30-2008, 08:09 PM	#6
huero71 Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mark Location: Porterville, CA Posts: 297 Trading: (2)	Re: Arrrgh..California Cigar Prices... Prices aren't quite that high here in Tulare/Visalia, but they're close. I like to drop into the local B&M for a cigar once in a while, but I do a lot of my box purchases online and at David's in Rancho C. when I'm in that area every couple of months. The shop there has a great selection, and the prices are a lot better than up here.

10-30-2008, 08:20 PM	#7
MarkinAZ Formerly MarkinOR Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mark Location: Sun City West, AZ Posts: 6,221 Trading: (40)	Re: Arrrgh..California Cigar Prices... Out of the 3 B&M's here in Valencia, I most always support Valencia Cigars. The owner is very knowledgeable and personable, knows a number of folks in the industry, generally maintains a good core supply of brands (he's awaiting his supply at this time of 601's), and his prices are within means at times. I'm hoping his prices on 601's will be affordable upon arrival at his shop __________________ "Don't worry, God will work out His plan for your life..." Psalm 138 8

10-30-2008, 09:28 PM	#9
Ratters Have My Own Room Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,848 Trading: (2)	Re: Arrrgh..California Cigar Prices... Well, we're gonna share the wealth after Obama gets elected and the cigar tax that Bush vetoed goes through. But yeah, for the meantime I'll buy sticks from the B&M but wouldn't dream of buying a box.

10-30-2008, 10:07 PM	#11
ucla695 Neither here, nor there Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: The Pool Posts: 3,696 Trading: (5)	Re: Arrrgh..California Cigar Prices... I also feel your pain. I buy singles from the local B&Ms and boxes when they're in the same ballpark as online dealers. But I refuse to get gouged and pay out of the wazoo for hard to find sticks like Opus and Anejos. I'm afraid if Obama becomes prez.

10-30-2008, 10:36 PM	#12
Raralith Death to the Unbelievers Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Southern California Posts: 475 Trading: (24)	Re: Arrrgh..California Cigar Prices... I still love my local B&M, but you're right, prices are high. I was in Cenza in Pasadena, $15 for Tat's, $17 for Ashton Heritage and than the 8.25% additional state tax. They do have specials though, 30% off on Sundays in November, but even so, you can't compare it to online prices.

10-30-2008, 10:56 PM	#15
weak_link The Stranger Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Eric Location: SF Bay Area, CA Posts: 1,263 Trading: (1)	Re: Arrrgh..California Cigar Prices... 48% tax. Yep, that's fair.

10-30-2008, 11:40 PM	#16
Legend Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Arrrgh..California Cigar Prices... Still need to support the B&M or they will disappear.

10-30-2008, 11:55 PM	#17
Tazziedevil Still Watching My Back Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Tasmania, Australia Posts: 110 Trading: (0)	Re: Arrrgh..California Cigar Prices... ...Just be glad you don't live in Australia! I'd kill to only pay 10.99 + tax!! i last paid just under $30AUD for a ERDM corona!

10-31-2008, 12:22 AM	#19
Skywalker BABOTL Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dice Location: Galaxy Far Far Away Posts: 10,168 Trading: (18)	Re: Arrrgh..California Cigar Prices... Yeah I have a B&M selling for the same price!!! Sorry Mark that is the price we pay for having so many other benefits!!! Like having a movie star Governor, Sunshine, Beaches, etc...

10-31-2008, 02:30 AM	#20
dannyboy Still Watching My Back Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Daniel Location: Maui, HI Posts: 202 Trading: (31)	Re: Arrrgh..California Cigar Prices... Same thing here in HI, ridiculous taxes, high rent, and needing to ship everything in, makes for some really high prices. I wouldn't mind paying them if we had a B&M with a decent selection. I could at least try singles and see if they were worth a 5-pack or box from online.