Peace grows on trees.

02-28-2010, 10:54 PM

This is a bit I wrote after being disgusted by the new age hippie and listening to some of their ideas. Its all open for discussion, and intellectual debate is welcome. I enjoy hearing other perspectives, so please, add your two cents.

"Only the dead have seen the end of war."

At the risk of seeming pretentious, I open with a quote from Plato. The quote, as I'll explain, is necessary.

In order to acknowledge this quote it's important to realize that, in the same way, those who know peace have met death. Radical is the idea that mankind can obtain understanding intrinsic to itself to set aside cultural perspective for purpose of living in unison. If these ideas are not cultivated into beliefs throughout the intellectual lifespan collectively, then they are just ideas. I have not personally experienced any manifestation of the idea based on the design of the hopes of the new age hippie. The ones who brandish peace signs abundantly. Futility in peace is the same as futility in war. There are few things that I will resign to about mankind as a whole, this is one of those things. When pacifists put to action their specific breed of protest for the sake of peace, they in their actions are only waging war. Resistance and protest are not peaceful exploits. We take what we need, and the forceful nature by which we do so eliminates the hope that the understanding of peace can be recognized. Your own personal peace is the only thing you should hope for, and let societies do what societies do. Never will man lay down their arms in the name of peace, not when assets, resources, and lives are at risk; not even when morality is at risk. In a peaceful world where man is left to his devices death, violence, and crime no matter how petty, can be the only derivative. Ignorance is a great and only platform for which ecumenical peace to stand on. I end with a quote from a very quotable guy, one which I admire.

"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." John F. Kennedy.

bobarian · 02-28-2010, 11:24 PM

Nice review.

Ratters · 02-28-2010, 11:45 PM

Hippies. They say they want to save the world but all they do is smoke pot and smell bad. -Cartman

icehog3 · 03-01-2010, 03:57 PM

I thought I was back in college lit class, and almost sh*t myself.

hotreds · 03-01-2010, 04:33 PM

Dave's not here!

shilala · 03-01-2010, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by hotreds

Dave's not here!

That made me lol. Thanks Hugh!!!

The Poet · 03-01-2010, 04:49 PM

In my opinion, anyone who begins a discussion by stating, directly or implicitly, that everyone is entitled to an opinion is already convinced that their opinion is correct and the other's is invalid, no matter what either one believes, or doesn't.

But that's just my opinion.

03-01-2010, 05:03 PM

There is a very old...VERY OLD...belief from Scotland that is written in Latin, oddly, that reads "Aut Pax Aut Bellum." When translated into English it simply reads "Without Peace Without War." That statement is worn on the crest of the Gunn Clan, the clan in which my family originates. It means, without war, peace does not exist....I have long believed this...too me, anytime someone gets mad at what someone else says, does, has, or is, there will never be peace...it may sound very cruel, but total peace is a total dream, its never going too happen...two groups of people will always be in disagreement in someway somewhere...

icehog3 · 03-01-2010, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ScottishSmoker

total peace is a total dream, its never going too happen...two groups of people will always be in disagreement in someway somewhere...

Just ask my ex-wife!

Whee · 03-01-2010, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

Just ask my ex-wife!

Hey that's my schtick.

icehog3 · 03-01-2010, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by illinoishoosier

Hey that's my schtick.

Oh, I can ride that train too, Bucko.

Whee · 03-01-2010, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

Oh, I can ride that train too, Bucko.

It's a really crowded train.

03-01-2010, 11:51 PM

I will let you guys "ride that train" alone...Marriage is NOT in my forseeable future...too those that are...congratulations...

icehog3 · 03-02-2010, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ScottishSmoker

I will let you guys "ride that train" alone...Marriage is NOT in my forseeable future...too those that are...congratulations...

Oh, I am off the "marriage train".

cort · 03-02-2010, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

Just ask my ex-wife!

that poor guy

icehog3 · 03-02-2010, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Cort

that poor guy

Blow it out your ass, Gary.

cort · 03-02-2010, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

Blow it out your ass, Gary.

I almost spit it put my nose.

Scottw · 03-02-2010, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Cort

I almost spit it put my nose.

I don't know what this means but I laughed so hard, I farted.

cort · 03-02-2010, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Scottw

I don't know what this means but I laughed so hard, I farted.

Exactly

macpappy · 03-02-2010, 04:46 PM

Peace never last. War never ends. It is part of the balance that is life like good and evil.

I have heard some very religious people say that when all the world has succumb to "evil" that God will destroy the world. They also say that when all the world is "good" that the "rapture" will occur, heaven will open and we will ascend.

Sounds like either way we go, we're dead.

02-28-2010, 10:54 PM	#1
andrew Guest Posts: n/a	Peace grows on trees. This is a bit I wrote after being disgusted by the new age hippie and listening to some of their ideas. Its all open for discussion, and intellectual debate is welcome. I enjoy hearing other perspectives, so please, add your two cents. "Only the dead have seen the end of war." At the risk of seeming pretentious, I open with a quote from Plato. The quote, as I'll explain, is necessary. In order to acknowledge this quote it's important to realize that, in the same way, those who know peace have met death. Radical is the idea that mankind can obtain understanding intrinsic to itself to set aside cultural perspective for purpose of living in unison. If these ideas are not cultivated into beliefs throughout the intellectual lifespan collectively, then they are just ideas. I have not personally experienced any manifestation of the idea based on the design of the hopes of the new age hippie. The ones who brandish peace signs abundantly. Futility in peace is the same as futility in war. There are few things that I will resign to about mankind as a whole, this is one of those things. When pacifists put to action their specific breed of protest for the sake of peace, they in their actions are only waging war. Resistance and protest are not peaceful exploits. We take what we need, and the forceful nature by which we do so eliminates the hope that the understanding of peace can be recognized. Your own personal peace is the only thing you should hope for, and let societies do what societies do. Never will man lay down their arms in the name of peace, not when assets, resources, and lives are at risk; not even when morality is at risk. In a peaceful world where man is left to his devices death, violence, and crime no matter how petty, can be the only derivative. Ignorance is a great and only platform for which ecumenical peace to stand on. I end with a quote from a very quotable guy, one which I admire. "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." John F. Kennedy.

02-28-2010, 11:24 PM	#2
bobarian Cranky Habanophile Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Wine Country Posts: 8,869 Trading: (51)	Re: Peace grows on trees. Nice review.

02-28-2010, 11:45 PM	#3
Ratters Have My Own Room Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,848 Trading: (2)	Re: Peace grows on trees. Hippies. They say they want to save the world but all they do is smoke pot and smell bad. -Cartman

03-01-2010, 03:57 PM	#4
icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 71,232 Trading: (60)	Re: Peace grows on trees. I thought I was back in college lit class, and almost sh*t myself. __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!

03-01-2010, 04:33 PM	#5
hotreds Ephesians 2:8 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5 miles past "Resume Speed" Posts: 11,662 Trading: (63)	Re: Peace grows on trees. Dave's not here! __________________ God loves you so much, that he made you read this, just to let you know.

03-01-2010, 04:49 PM	#7
The Poet Il megglior fabbro Join Date: Jun 2009 First Name: Thomas Location: Hickory, NC Posts: 8,420 Trading: (2)	Re: Peace grows on trees. In my opinion, anyone who begins a discussion by stating, directly or implicitly, that everyone is entitled to an opinion is already convinced that their opinion is correct and the other's is invalid, no matter what either one believes, or doesn't. But that's just my opinion.

03-01-2010, 05:03 PM	#8
ScottishSmoker Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Peace grows on trees. There is a very old...VERY OLD...belief from Scotland that is written in Latin, oddly, that reads "Aut Pax Aut Bellum." When translated into English it simply reads "Without Peace Without War." That statement is worn on the crest of the Gunn Clan, the clan in which my family originates. It means, without war, peace does not exist....I have long believed this...too me, anytime someone gets mad at what someone else says, does, has, or is, there will never be peace...it may sound very cruel, but total peace is a total dream, its never going too happen...two groups of people will always be in disagreement in someway somewhere...

03-01-2010, 11:51 PM	#13
ScottishSmoker Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Peace grows on trees. I will let you guys "ride that train" alone...Marriage is NOT in my forseeable future...too those that are...congratulations...

03-02-2010, 04:46 PM	#20
macpappy Rider on the storm. Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Slidell, LA Posts: 851 Trading: (0)	Re: Peace grows on trees. Peace never last. War never ends. It is part of the balance that is life like good and evil. I have heard some very religious people say that when all the world has succumb to "evil" that God will destroy the world. They also say that when all the world is "good" that the "rapture" will occur, heaven will open and we will ascend. Sounds like either way we go, we're dead. __________________ WARNING: I am a Southern White Male. I have a brain and I know how to use it.