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Old 01-15-2010, 02:30 PM   #1
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Old 01-15-2010, 02:46 PM   #2
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Is that a good thing or a bad thing???
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Old 01-15-2010, 02:52 PM   #3
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CAO isn't merging.

Read the article.

Remember Swedish Match bought out Cigars International?

Now STG owns 51% of ALL of them...the Torano Factory in Esteli, the Torano/Oliva factory in Danli, Honduras, General Cigar and Cigars International.
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Old 01-15-2010, 02:56 PM   #4
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Can't say that I am. Aside from the broader issues of the (expected) industry consolidation, this particular arrangement, for me, only means that two companies I largely ignore become one company I largely ignore.
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Old 01-15-2010, 03:22 PM   #5
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CAO isn't merging.

Read the article.

Remember Swedish Match bought out Cigars International?

Now STG owns 51% of ALL of them...the Torano Factory in Esteli, the Torano/Oliva factory in Danli, Honduras, General Cigar and Cigars International.
The article says the deal does not include SM's mass market US business. Wouldn't that include CI, or does mass market refer to machine-made smokes and not hand-mades?
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Old 01-15-2010, 03:41 PM   #6
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The article says the deal does not include SM's mass market US business. Wouldn't that include CI, or does mass market refer to machine-made smokes and not hand-mades?
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CI is included. Mass market business refers to the machine made stuff.
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Old 01-15-2010, 04:15 PM   #7
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Swedish Match will own 49 percent of the new venture. The company is not contributing its mass-market cigar business to the venture, which includes such machine-made brands as White Owl, Garcia y Vega, and La Paz.

The deal also includes Swedish Match's highly successful retail arm, Cigars International.
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Can't say that I am. Aside from the broader issues of the (expected) industry consolidation, this particular arrangement, for me, only means that two companies I largely ignore become one company I largely ignore.
couldn't have said it better myself.
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Old 01-15-2010, 04:25 PM   #9
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Can't say that I am. Aside from the broader issues of the (expected) industry consolidation, this particular arrangement, for me, only means that two companies I largely ignore become one company I largely ignore.
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