burn line

weak_link · 01-06-2010, 11:07 AM

How big of a deal is the burn line to you? I've read on some review sites and other forums where guys get really bent out of shape if their cigar doesn't have an even burn line. I read one review of a Tat Red Tubo where the guy enjoyed the flavor but the burn line was bad so he really slammed the cigar.

I personally don't mind touching up a cigar if the flavor is great. In fact, I'd happily touch up a cigar a couple times if the flavor was what I enjoy in a smoke.

How about you? Do you care?

OLS · 01-06-2010, 11:08 AM

In alot of cases, I find touching up a cigar BRINGS OUT great flavors.
DO I like a ragged burn, no I do not. Is it a terrible thing.....ehhh.

But certainly if you ever do a hot relight on a cigar that goes out very
recently, you remove ALL the gray ash and relight, it's like a whole new cigar
bursting with flavors for a good 3-5 puffs.

akumushi · 01-06-2010, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weak_link

How big of a deal is the burn line to you? I've read on some review sites and other forums where guys get really bent out of shape if their cigar doesn't have an even burn line. I read one review of a Tat Red Tubo where the guy enjoyed the flavor but the burn line was bad so he really slammed the cigar.

I personally don't mind touching up a cigar if the flavor is great. In fact, I'd happily touch up a cigar a couple times if the flavor was what I enjoy in a smoke.

How about you? Do you care?

I've found generally that a wonky burn line is usually a humidity/storage problem rather than a construction problem, so I have a hard time knocking a cigar for an issue I probably created in the first place. A little waviness and an occassional touch up doesn't bother me as long as the flavor is on. Only if the burn is really out of control because of obvious fabrication flaws and it's affecting my enjoyment such that l I need to pitch the cigar will I say it had a 'bad burn.'

01-06-2010, 11:13 AM

I just think a nice even burn looks better. Doesn't have to be perfect, but not a 1/4 inch difference from one side compared to the other. I don't mind touching up either. I think a good bit of the enjoyment from a cigar come from the visuals. Cigars are graded based of several things, looks included. I think looks play a role in how a cigar is enjoyed as well, the ash (color, structure, shape after breaking off), the burn, etc. Speaking of ash, maybe I'm just weird but I like a light gray/white ash that is slightly rounded after is falling off. Hate those spears points...lol Maybe I'm just weird.

stearns · 01-06-2010, 11:13 AM

if it burns funny, i fix it, its all better then i have no problem with them, gotta remember that its a hand made product and wont be perfect every time

that being said, if it runs, i fix it, then the next puff it begins running again and i have to continually fix the same burn issue every couple minutes, it becomes a problem that deters from my enjoyment of the cigar

stearns

icehog3 · 01-06-2010, 11:14 AM

I'd prefer a straight burn line if I had a choce, but I won't let a crooked one lessen a good cigar.

01-06-2010, 11:16 AM

Depends on the cigar. Some sticks seem to be prone to burn problems and I've come to dealing with them (Camacho Diploma and Padilla Obsidian come to mind). Other cigars will drive me crazy if the burn line is out of control. In most cases I just touch them up and continue on, I don't ever recall tossing a cigar due to a poor burn line.

pnoon · 01-06-2010, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by akumushi

I've found generally that a wonky burn line is usually a humidity/storage problem rather than a construction problem, so I have a hard time knocking a cigar for an issue I probably created in the first place. A little waviness and an occassional touch up doesn't bother me as long as the flavor is on. Only if the burn is really out of control because of obvious fabrication flaws and it's affecting my enjoyment such that l I need to pitch the cigar will I say it had a 'bad burn.'

Spot on, IMO.

jjirons69 · 01-06-2010, 11:28 AM

As Tom said, a sweet burn line is very nice, but a catch up here and there isn't so bad. As long as it doesn't go nuts and cause me more problems than my enjoyment and I can only remember one or two of those. I think plugged smokes aggravate way more than the burn patterns.

BTW, I've tried the old left-handed cigarette trick with using spit and my finger to "out" the run, but with a cigar, there's a lot more girth and it doesn't work as well. Sometime I use the spit-and-stop procedure with a little lighter action on the opposite side. It all depends on the smoke.

CasaDooley · 01-06-2010, 11:32 AM

There are soooo many things that can affect the way a cigar burns that it just doesn't really bother me if it starts to go south, so to speak. Inside/outside temps and humidity levels, wind blowing, type of wrapper, how I cut or punched it, etc. I just touch it up and continue to enjoy my smoke. Life's to short to get upset over whether my cigar is burning perfect or not.

weak_link · 01-06-2010, 11:38 AM

How far will you let a cigar 'run' until you correct it? I usually try and power through and let it correct itself. Once it gets to about 1/2 an inch I figure it's affecting the smoke volume and time to to touch it up.

Blindjimme · 01-06-2010, 11:39 AM

Pretty much been said. If I"m enjoying the smoke and the flavors, it's not an issue.

bobarian · 01-06-2010, 11:39 AM

It irritates me, but does not affect my enjoyment of the cigar. I dont mind a touch up or two.

weak_link · 01-06-2010, 11:43 AM

It's interesting to me that on some sites the burn line is very important. Here at the Asylum no one seem to care that much.

Skywalker · 01-06-2010, 11:46 AM

These look bad to me!!!

Blindjimme · 01-06-2010, 11:51 AM

Too funny Darrell!!

JJG · 01-06-2010, 12:21 PM

I do not factor burn into my opinion on a cigar unless it needs constant correction. That gets annoying. To me, burn is just a sign that the cigar is rolled and stored well, but we're still talking about a handmade product. Nothing is going to be perfect 100% of the time. In fact, I had an Opus 2 weeks ago that kept burning unevenly. It didn't bother me though because the cigar corrected itself and never got too ugly.

Lucky_Hippo · 01-06-2010, 01:43 PM

I correct it and go on, however, I usually don't make the correction until it affects the flavor profile. I couldn't care less how it looks, it's all about the taste for me.

BryanB · 01-06-2010, 04:46 PM

Burn does not phase me as long as it taste good. I try to worry w/ the less important issues. It's all about taste.

Salvelinus · 01-06-2010, 06:12 PM

Not a problem if it has to be done a couple of times. I do feel a little crosseyed after smoking because I peek at it every puff.

01-06-2010, 11:07 AM	#1
weak_link The Stranger Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Eric Location: SF Bay Area, CA Posts: 1,263 Trading: (1)	burn line How big of a deal is the burn line to you? I've read on some review sites and other forums where guys get really bent out of shape if their cigar doesn't have an even burn line. I read one review of a Tat Red Tubo where the guy enjoyed the flavor but the burn line was bad so he really slammed the cigar. I personally don't mind touching up a cigar if the flavor is great. In fact, I'd happily touch up a cigar a couple times if the flavor was what I enjoy in a smoke. How about you? Do you care?

01-06-2010, 11:08 AM	#2
OLS Suck It Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Brad Location: TN Posts: 7,912 Trading: (19)	Re: burn line In alot of cases, I find touching up a cigar BRINGS OUT great flavors. DO I like a ragged burn, no I do not. Is it a terrible thing.....ehhh. But certainly if you ever do a hot relight on a cigar that goes out very recently, you remove ALL the gray ash and relight, it's like a whole new cigar bursting with flavors for a good 3-5 puffs. Last edited by OLS; 01-06-2010 at 11:14 AM.

01-06-2010, 11:13 AM	#4
Namerifrats Guest Posts: n/a	Re: burn line I just think a nice even burn looks better. Doesn't have to be perfect, but not a 1/4 inch difference from one side compared to the other. I don't mind touching up either. I think a good bit of the enjoyment from a cigar come from the visuals. Cigars are graded based of several things, looks included. I think looks play a role in how a cigar is enjoyed as well, the ash (color, structure, shape after breaking off), the burn, etc. Speaking of ash, maybe I'm just weird but I like a light gray/white ash that is slightly rounded after is falling off. Hate those spears points...lol Maybe I'm just weird.

01-06-2010, 11:13 AM	#5
stearns Dogbert Consultant Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Ben Location: Park Hill Posts: 5,391 Trading: (50)	Re: burn line if it burns funny, i fix it, its all better then i have no problem with them, gotta remember that its a hand made product and wont be perfect every time that being said, if it runs, i fix it, then the next puff it begins running again and i have to continually fix the same burn issue every couple minutes, it becomes a problem that deters from my enjoyment of the cigar stearns __________________ "Ignoring all the racket of conventional reality" - Keller Williams

01-06-2010, 11:14 AM	#6
icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 71,440 Trading: (60)	Re: burn line I'd prefer a straight burn line if I had a choce, but I won't let a crooked one lessen a good cigar. __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!

01-06-2010, 11:16 AM	#7
Walt Guest Posts: n/a	Re: burn line Depends on the cigar. Some sticks seem to be prone to burn problems and I've come to dealing with them (Camacho Diploma and Padilla Obsidian come to mind). Other cigars will drive me crazy if the burn line is out of control. In most cases I just touch them up and continue on, I don't ever recall tossing a cigar due to a poor burn line.

01-06-2010, 11:28 AM	#9
jjirons69 Haberdasher Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Jamie Location: Chucktown, SC Posts: 4,120 Trading: (94)	Re: burn line As Tom said, a sweet burn line is very nice, but a catch up here and there isn't so bad. As long as it doesn't go nuts and cause me more problems than my enjoyment and I can only remember one or two of those. I think plugged smokes aggravate way more than the burn patterns. BTW, I've tried the old left-handed cigarette trick with using spit and my finger to "out" the run, but with a cigar, there's a lot more girth and it doesn't work as well. Sometime I use the spit-and-stop procedure with a little lighter action on the opposite side. It all depends on the smoke. __________________ Somebody has to go back and get a chitload of dimes

01-06-2010, 11:32 AM	#10
CasaDooley Herf Crew of 2 Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Kevin Location: The birthplace of Fathers Day Posts: 2,465 Trading: (41)	Re: burn line There are soooo many things that can affect the way a cigar burns that it just doesn't really bother me if it starts to go south, so to speak. Inside/outside temps and humidity levels, wind blowing, type of wrapper, how I cut or punched it, etc. I just touch it up and continue to enjoy my smoke. Life's to short to get upset over whether my cigar is burning perfect or not. __________________ *Founding member of the Lilac City Dedicated Herfers*

01-06-2010, 11:38 AM	#11
weak_link The Stranger Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Eric Location: SF Bay Area, CA Posts: 1,263 Trading: (1)	Re: burn line How far will you let a cigar 'run' until you correct it? I usually try and power through and let it correct itself. Once it gets to about 1/2 an inch I figure it's affecting the smoke volume and time to to touch it up.

01-06-2010, 11:39 AM	#12
Blindjimme Judgement Impaired Join Date: Apr 2009 First Name: JB Location: North OC, CA Posts: 790 Trading: (14)	Re: burn line Pretty much been said. If I"m enjoying the smoke and the flavors, it's not an issue.

01-06-2010, 11:39 AM	#13
bobarian Cranky Habanophile Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Wine Country Posts: 8,869 Trading: (51)	Re: burn line It irritates me, but does not affect my enjoyment of the cigar. I dont mind a touch up or two.

01-06-2010, 11:43 AM	#14
weak_link The Stranger Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Eric Location: SF Bay Area, CA Posts: 1,263 Trading: (1)	Re: burn line It's interesting to me that on some sites the burn line is very important. Here at the Asylum no one seem to care that much.

01-06-2010, 11:46 AM	#15
Skywalker BABOTL Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dice Location: Galaxy Far Far Away Posts: 10,168 Trading: (18)	Re: burn line These look bad to me!!! __________________ Smoke what you like!!!

01-06-2010, 11:51 AM	#16
Blindjimme Judgement Impaired Join Date: Apr 2009 First Name: JB Location: North OC, CA Posts: 790 Trading: (14)	Re: burn line Too funny Darrell!!

01-06-2010, 12:21 PM	#17
JJG Have My Own Room Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Jeff Location: Houston Posts: 1,260 Trading: (4)	Re: burn line I do not factor burn into my opinion on a cigar unless it needs constant correction. That gets annoying. To me, burn is just a sign that the cigar is rolled and stored well, but we're still talking about a handmade product. Nothing is going to be perfect 100% of the time. In fact, I had an Opus 2 weeks ago that kept burning unevenly. It didn't bother me though because the cigar corrected itself and never got too ugly.

01-06-2010, 01:43 PM	#18
Lucky_Hippo A Cigar = 42 Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Gary Location: Kansas Posts: 494 Trading: (2)	Re: burn line I correct it and go on, however, I usually don't make the correction until it affects the flavor profile. I couldn't care less how it looks, it's all about the taste for me. __________________ Who wants an orange whip? Orange whip? Orange whip? Three orange whips. -J.Candy

01-06-2010, 04:46 PM	#19
BryanB Have My Own Room Join Date: Nov 2008 First Name: Bryan Location: Benson, NC Posts: 1,177 Trading: (58)	Re: burn line Burn does not phase me as long as it taste good. I try to worry w/ the less important issues. It's all about taste. __________________ "Cheap cigars come in handy; they stifle the odor of cheap politicians." Ulysses S. Grant

01-06-2010, 06:12 PM	#20
Salvelinus Have My Own Room Join Date: Dec 2009 First Name: Brendan Location: Vermont Posts: 1,116 Trading: (12)	Re: burn line Not a problem if it has to be done a couple of times. I do feel a little crosseyed after smoking because I peek at it every puff.