What do you mean by affordable - by the box?

RevSmoke · 01-04-2010, 07:22 AM

I have noticed a couple time people asking for advice as to affordable cigars with specific flavor profiles. However, when I think of affordable, some of the suggsted cigars would NEVER be what I consider affordable.

Now, I'm going to narrow this down a bit, I am talking about buying in quantity. While we may splurge to buy that one time stick for more than we normally would when we find one at the B&M, I am speaking about normal purchases of boxes and/or bundles.

Now, while buying a box prices can vary a bit. What I mean is, that $100 for a box of 20 is not the same as $100 for a box of 25, and certainly a far cry from $100 for a box of 50.

So, when you think of affordable - and like I said, I mean when buying a box or bundle - what do you consider an affordable price per stick?

At my home, cigars come out of what I call "disposable income." This is money that isn't part of the regular budget, could be gifts or honorariums, but it isn't normal budgeted $$.

As that is the case, I personally like to keep my cigar price under $5.00 a cigar. And I really prefer $3.50 per stick and less. If I watch the deals, I can usually manage that.

So, how about you?

Blueface · 01-04-2010, 07:26 AM

Affordable:
What I can get away with paying off without the wife knowing or screaming at me about it.
Affordable.

Volt · 01-04-2010, 07:29 AM

Good question Todd. For me as you say, the daily smoke, I my range is in the $4 - $7 area. Sometimes a touch more or a bit less if I'm on Cbid, but this range keeps me in just enough to smoke and bomb out (must always have ammo

). Typically ammo is more than I can bring myself to smoke. But as we all have have different budgets I would imagine "affordable" has a lot of room for interpretation.

01-04-2010, 07:41 AM

I don't smoke every day, so for me my budget can go a bit higher. I usually go for sticks in the 8-10 dollar range and smoke 3-5 per week.

Skywalker · 01-04-2010, 07:44 AM

Great thread Rev! You're keeping it real!!!

I love a good bargain, but I look for "value" more than cheap, if that makes sense. If I can find what I like at $2.00 or $2.50 a stick (per box/bundle) then that is what I going to purchase without question.

Is this a part of my regular household budget??? No!

I tried budgeting and doesn't work for me. I find something and spend my budget... then another deal comes up and I can't resist... then I feel guilty because I'm over my allowance!

Am I going into debt (credit) to pay? No! I go without other luxuries or entertainment!

This year I hope I do better! I have my daughter's wedding to pay for, and who knows where this economy is going to take us!

md4958 · 01-04-2010, 07:51 AM

When I first started smoking nothing over $5 was "affordable". Now, because I smoke much less often, I prefer a nicer smoke, and I'd say $10-$12 would be "affordable". Maybe because Im smoking less than half as much as I used to.

captain53 · 01-04-2010, 07:55 AM

I try to keep my "everyday" smokes (even though I do not smoke everyday) at around $3-3.50 maximum but I shop very hard on the specials to get good stuff for this price range. I keep 50-75 "sort of special smokes" in the humi that range from $5-10 mostly but again I buy them on the best of specials and they usually represent $10-20 retails. I keep a few (maybe 5 or 6) true "top shelf" stix in there at around $20-25 but rare for me to smoke more than 1 or 2 of these a year.

(I only buy NC's)

I have found if you really watch the Monster, CI and Cigar.com you can get some super stix for $2.50-3.50.

Whynot · 01-04-2010, 07:59 AM

I generally try to stay under 4 for a regular smoke. Diesel, samplers, Famous, and RP have made that fairly easy. I smoke 1 or 2 a day. I have found Cohiba(ReD Dot obviously) Pequenos to be fairly good and cheap smokes when I am trying to squeeze 1 in at lunch or something.

14holestogie · 01-04-2010, 10:53 AM

The cheaper, the better. What was a range of $2-$4 a year ago has grown to $4-$8 these days. I suppose as my palate continues to morph, that could go higher, but I don't see myself spending $250 or more on a box of cigars in the future.

captain53 · 01-04-2010, 11:22 AM

I forgot to mention that by the box I only buy two smokes, LFD's and LGC's unless there is a super box special or something unusual I want only sold by the box. These two are usually in the $150-175 range by box.

pmwz · 01-04-2010, 11:30 AM

affordable for me is up to 5€/stick. i dont like paying much more for a cigar. i dont really have a budget but if i buy pricier sticks i usually add a couple of RyJ mille fleurs or JLP petit cazadores to come down to a lower average stick price.

01-04-2010, 11:41 AM

Most of the cigars I really like enough to keep re-buying a box of are between $5 and $10. Even cigars that go for $12 or so can be found on sale for less.
I think Bluface's definition above fits perfectly.

68TriShield · 01-04-2010, 11:51 AM

I will rarely spend more than 140 to 150 per box.Usually it's closer to 80 to 100 dollar boxes.

htown · 01-04-2010, 11:54 AM

If I am buying just a few cigars I will sometimes buy in the $10-$17 range, but when buying boxes I usually stay in the $4-$6 range.

roughrider · 01-04-2010, 12:16 PM

$6-10 sticks for me.

kcmontie · 01-04-2010, 12:19 PM

I really try and stay on budget but if I see something I must have I find a way to buy it..

Bax · 01-04-2010, 01:00 PM

For me it's all about enjoyment of the stick. I rather enjoy 25 of a great 8 dollar stick then 50 of a so-so stick at 4 bucks a stick. That means I smoke alot less but that's OK for me. Price top outs at between 200-250 a box usually but a box might last me 10 months to a year.

CasaDooley · 01-04-2010, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 68TriShield

I will rarely spend more than 140 to 150 per box.Usually it's closer to 80 to 100 dollar boxes.

Me too! I like my box prices to average out between 2.50/5.00 per stick on boxes of 25 or 50.

RevSmoke · 01-04-2010, 01:28 PM

Thanks for the comments guys.

I think life is too short to smoke cigars I don't enjoy. I try things, and may pay more than I'd normal to try them. Then, I watch for those same sticks to come into my "comfortable pricing" range.

bobarian · 01-04-2010, 01:32 PM

Actual price is not as relevant to me as value. I try to keep things under $200 a box and for the most part I am closer to $150. But I no longer buy NC's so does this mean I can double my price range and budget???

I've already exceeded by 2010 budget, but that was not the question!

01-04-2010, 07:22 AM	#1
RevSmoke Ain't Never Gonna Leave Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Todd Location: Northcentral woods of Wisconsin Posts: 6,839 Trading: (51)	What do you mean by affordable - by the box? I have noticed a couple time people asking for advice as to affordable cigars with specific flavor profiles. However, when I think of affordable, some of the suggsted cigars would NEVER be what I consider affordable. Now, I'm going to narrow this down a bit, I am talking about buying in quantity. While we may splurge to buy that one time stick for more than we normally would when we find one at the B&M, I am speaking about normal purchases of boxes and/or bundles. Now, while buying a box prices can vary a bit. What I mean is, that $100 for a box of 20 is not the same as $100 for a box of 25, and certainly a far cry from $100 for a box of 50. So, when you think of affordable - and like I said, I mean when buying a box or bundle - what do you consider an affordable price per stick? At my home, cigars come out of what I call "disposable income." This is money that isn't part of the regular budget, could be gifts or honorariums, but it isn't normal budgeted $$. As that is the case, I personally like to keep my cigar price under $5.00 a cigar. And I really prefer $3.50 per stick and less. If I watch the deals, I can usually manage that. So, how about you? __________________ Todd__ "Smoke what you like, and enjoy it!"

01-04-2010, 07:26 AM	#2
Blueface Gramps 4x's Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Horatio Seymore Hiny Location: Boca Raton - North of La Habana Posts: 8,774 Trading: (8)	Re: What do you mean by affordable - by the box? Affordable: What I can get away with paying off without the wife knowing or screaming at me about it. Affordable. __________________ Little known fact: I am a former member of the Village People - The Indian

01-04-2010, 07:29 AM	#3
Volt I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,799 Trading: (19)	Re: What do you mean by affordable - by the box? Good question Todd. For me as you say, the daily smoke, I my range is in the $4 - $7 area. Sometimes a touch more or a bit less if I'm on Cbid, but this range keeps me in just enough to smoke and bomb out (must always have ammo ). Typically ammo is more than I can bring myself to smoke. But as we all have have different budgets I would imagine "affordable" has a lot of room for interpretation. __________________ Curing the infection... One bullet at a time.

01-04-2010, 07:41 AM	#4
DougBushBC Guest Posts: n/a	Re: What do you mean by affordable - by the box? I don't smoke every day, so for me my budget can go a bit higher. I usually go for sticks in the 8-10 dollar range and smoke 3-5 per week.

01-04-2010, 07:44 AM	#5
Skywalker BABOTL Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dice Location: Galaxy Far Far Away Posts: 10,168 Trading: (18)	Re: What do you mean by affordable - by the box? Great thread Rev! You're keeping it real!!! I love a good bargain, but I look for "value" more than cheap, if that makes sense. If I can find what I like at $2.00 or $2.50 a stick (per box/bundle) then that is what I going to purchase without question. Is this a part of my regular household budget??? No! I tried budgeting and doesn't work for me. I find something and spend my budget... then another deal comes up and I can't resist... then I feel guilty because I'm over my allowance! Am I going into debt (credit) to pay? No! I go without other luxuries or entertainment! This year I hope I do better! I have my daughter's wedding to pay for, and who knows where this economy is going to take us! __________________ Smoke what you like!!!

01-04-2010, 07:51 AM	#6
md4958 Captain Cannoli Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Moe Location: Suffield, CT Posts: 5,712 Trading: (62)	Re: What do you mean by affordable - by the box? When I first started smoking nothing over $5 was "affordable". Now, because I smoke much less often, I prefer a nicer smoke, and I'd say $10-$12 would be "affordable". Maybe because Im smoking less than half as much as I used to. __________________ "One fart can foul the air for everyone" - Esteemed philosopher "If avoiding the nasty $hit is being a snob, them I am guilty as charged."- Same esteemed philosopher.

01-04-2010, 07:55 AM	#7
captain53 Have My Own Room Join Date: Jul 2009 First Name: Dave Location: Lake of the Ozarks & Austin, TX Posts: 1,333 Trading: (3)	Re: What do you mean by affordable - by the box? I try to keep my "everyday" smokes (even though I do not smoke everyday) at around $3-3.50 maximum but I shop very hard on the specials to get good stuff for this price range. I keep 50-75 "sort of special smokes" in the humi that range from $5-10 mostly but again I buy them on the best of specials and they usually represent $10-20 retails. I keep a few (maybe 5 or 6) true "top shelf" stix in there at around $20-25 but rare for me to smoke more than 1 or 2 of these a year. (I only buy NC's) I have found if you really watch the Monster, CI and Cigar.com you can get some super stix for $2.50-3.50.

01-04-2010, 07:59 AM	#8
Whynot Living the dream... Join Date: Nov 2009 First Name: Aaron Location: New Mexico Posts: 175 Trading: (11)	Re: What do you mean by affordable - by the box? I generally try to stay under 4 for a regular smoke. Diesel, samplers, Famous, and RP have made that fairly easy. I smoke 1 or 2 a day. I have found Cohiba(ReD Dot obviously) Pequenos to be fairly good and cheap smokes when I am trying to squeeze 1 in at lunch or something. __________________ "My time coming, any day, don't worry bout me, no. Been so long I felt this way, ain't in no hurry, no"

01-04-2010, 10:53 AM	#9
14holestogie Serial banter killer Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tim Location: Clintonville, WI Posts: 4,341 Trading: (52)	Re: What do you mean by affordable - by the box? The cheaper, the better. What was a range of $2-$4 a year ago has grown to $4-$8 these days. I suppose as my palate continues to morph, that could go higher, but I don't see myself spending $250 or more on a box of cigars in the future. __________________ *I loves me a Parti*

01-04-2010, 11:22 AM	#10
captain53 Have My Own Room Join Date: Jul 2009 First Name: Dave Location: Lake of the Ozarks & Austin, TX Posts: 1,333 Trading: (3)	Re: What do you mean by affordable - by the box? I forgot to mention that by the box I only buy two smokes, LFD's and LGC's unless there is a super box special or something unusual I want only sold by the box. These two are usually in the $150-175 range by box.

01-04-2010, 11:30 AM	#11
pmwz Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: cologne Posts: 372 Trading: (0)	Re: What do you mean by affordable - by the box? affordable for me is up to 5€/stick. i dont like paying much more for a cigar. i dont really have a budget but if i buy pricier sticks i usually add a couple of RyJ mille fleurs or JLP petit cazadores to come down to a lower average stick price.

01-04-2010, 11:41 AM	#12
BC-Axeman Guest Posts: n/a	Re: What do you mean by affordable - by the box? Most of the cigars I really like enough to keep re-buying a box of are between $5 and $10. Even cigars that go for $12 or so can be found on sale for less. I think Bluface's definition above fits perfectly.

01-04-2010, 11:51 AM	#13
68TriShield Got Torque? Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dave Location: Maryland Posts: 7,194 Trading: (40)	Re: What do you mean by affordable - by the box? I will rarely spend more than 140 to 150 per box.Usually it's closer to 80 to 100 dollar boxes.

01-04-2010, 11:54 AM	#14
htown Feeling at Home Join Date: Dec 2008 First Name: Mike Location: Sugar Land Posts: 877 Trading: (29)	Re: What do you mean by affordable - by the box? If I am buying just a few cigars I will sometimes buy in the $10-$17 range, but when buying boxes I usually stay in the $4-$6 range.

01-04-2010, 12:16 PM	#15
roughrider Feeling at Home Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 835 Trading: (24)	Re: What do you mean by affordable - by the box? $6-10 sticks for me.

01-04-2010, 12:19 PM	#16
kcmontie Just in from the Storm Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 27 Trading: (1)	Re: What do you mean by affordable - by the box? I really try and stay on budget but if I see something I must have I find a way to buy it..

01-04-2010, 01:00 PM	#17
Bax C A P S...CAPS CAPS CAPS! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tim Location: Ringgold,GA Posts: 2,173 Trading: (70)	Re: What do you mean by affordable - by the box? For me it's all about enjoyment of the stick. I rather enjoy 25 of a great 8 dollar stick then 50 of a so-so stick at 4 bucks a stick. That means I smoke alot less but that's OK for me. Price top outs at between 200-250 a box usually but a box might last me 10 months to a year. __________________ I'm the most interesting man in the world... but only if you find stupid stuff really interesting.

01-04-2010, 01:28 PM	#19
RevSmoke Ain't Never Gonna Leave Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Todd Location: Northcentral woods of Wisconsin Posts: 6,839 Trading: (51)	Re: What do you mean by affordable - by the box? Thanks for the comments guys. I think life is too short to smoke cigars I don't enjoy. I try things, and may pay more than I'd normal to try them. Then, I watch for those same sticks to come into my "comfortable pricing" range. __________________ Todd__ "Smoke what you like, and enjoy it!"

01-04-2010, 01:32 PM	#20
bobarian Cranky Habanophile Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Wine Country Posts: 8,869 Trading: (51)	Re: What do you mean by affordable - by the box? Actual price is not as relevant to me as value. I try to keep things under $200 a box and for the most part I am closer to $150. But I no longer buy NC's so does this mean I can double my price range and budget??? I've already exceeded by 2010 budget, but that was not the question!