Camacho Cigars

vankleekkw · 11-03-2009, 05:14 PM

While this is a duplicate posting, I felt the need to post it in the general forum as most people stopped reading the Black Band Project thread. I know that I did and just happen to get an update today that got me upset.

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Originally Posted by vankleekkw

Dylan,

While I did receive the black band cigars, I have no intentions of smoking them or any of your other products at this point. I have held on to them and several other cigars you manufacture hoping that you would make the situation right, but instead you have done nothing but smear more mud in the face of Camacho. The entire campaign was very poorly managed from the beginning and had continued mis-management. I can not accept any more excuses from your organization, as I stopped counting at three.

1. More demand than anticipated - You should have monitored enrollment and had a commitment on product availability.
2. More are being shipped - You actually knew your committments and still did not make enough product.
3. Substitution of another product - Again, you knew your committments and still did not make enough product.

When you offered up a product in exchange for viewing your marketing campaign, you entered into a contract that you did not uphold. I know that I do not speak for others on the forum, but had to let you know that you did lose at least one loyal customer as a result of the decisions that Camacho made. This is not the type of BOTL actions that I expect out of a company who promotes the BOTL Culture.

As to the proposed questions that might come up about the product that I do have, they will go out as Bombs until they are all gone.

Kris

SmokinApe · 11-03-2009, 05:28 PM

Not sure I totally understand what is going on here...

bobarian · 11-03-2009, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokinApe

Not sure I totally understand what is going on here...

Someone get butt hurt?

Emjaysmash · 11-03-2009, 07:16 PM

Bob and SmokinApe-

As you may or may not know, the promotional "Black Band Project" basically fell flat on its face after the offered free cigars to the participants of the promotion, but has yet to deliver to many of those participants due to shortage of the promotional cigars. Dylan Austin replied to the "Black Band Project" thread on CA and told us that another wave of shipments would be sent out soon, however some the the original cigars promised will be substituted for others that they currently have in stock. This is Kris' response to that promise.

captain53 · 11-03-2009, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokinApe

Not sure I totally understand what is going on here...

SmokinApe · 11-03-2009, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Emjaysmash

Bob and SmokinApe-

As you may or may not know, the promotional "Black Band Project" basically fell flat on its face after the offered free cigars to the participants of the promotion, but has yet to deliver to many of those participants due to shortage of the promotional cigars. Dylan Austin replied to the "Black Band Project" thread on CA and told us that another wave of shipments would be sent out soon, however some the the original cigars promised will be substituted for others that they currently have in stock. This is Kris' response to that promise.

Thank you, but how does Camacho play into this?

Emjaysmash · 11-03-2009, 07:38 PM

Camacho is the brand behind the promotion.

11-03-2009, 07:51 PM

I guess I'm wondering how mad could you possibly be about not getting "free" stuff? It's not like they charged you for something and didn't come through. They were giving away free stuff and ran out. Guess everyone has to choose their battles, this wouldn't be one I would make a big deal about. To each his own.

bigheadmark · 11-03-2009, 07:54 PM

I must say they make a darn fine cigar!!!
the camacho Havano Gigante is phenomenal!!!

captain53 · 11-03-2009, 08:32 PM

Anyone and Everyone who wishes to rid themselves of Camocho Cigars is welcome to send them right on down here to me, I will gladly smoke all of them.

Daustin333 · 11-03-2009, 08:32 PM

I don't see how giving over 36,000 free cigars could be considered falling on your face, slinging mud at the face of our company, and not holding up our end of the bargain. Truly, I am bewildered by his attempt to attack me and I refuse to answer the unfounded claims which he has detailed, mainly because the statements are false.

As of this Friday, the remaining 300 out 12,300 who participated will have been taken care of.

If anyone has an inquiry regarding the project, please feel free to call me directly at any time, 305-592-0722 x747 or email me dylan at camachocigars dot com.

Kris, if you would like to call and chat, I would be more than glad to talk.

Cheers,

Dylan@Camacho

bigheadmark · 11-03-2009, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Daustin333

I don't see how giving over 36,000 free cigars could be considered falling on your face, slinging mud at the face of our company, and not holding up our end of the bargain. Truly, I am bewildered by his attempt to attack me and I refuse to answer the unfounded claims which he has detailed, mainly because the statements are false.

As of this Friday, the remaining 300 out 12,300 who participated will have been taken care of.

If anyone has an inquiry regarding the project, please feel free to call me directly at any time, 305-592-0722 x747 or email me dylan at camachocigars dot com.

Kris, if you would like to call and chat, I would be more than glad to talk.

Cheers,

Dylan@Camacho

where the heck was I at when you gave out over 36,000 cigars! please let me know if you plan on giving out any more!!!

11-03-2009, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by bigheadmark

where the heck was I at when you gave out over 36,000 cigars! please let me know if you plan on giving out any more!!!

You were up here, freezing in MI with me!

11-03-2009, 08:52 PM

I hope Kris never sees a damn thing from that promotion. What a weenbag.

bobarian · 11-03-2009, 08:57 PM

I guess I need to send K Hansotia an email. I never got my FREE Gurhka hat or cigar case! I will never smoke another Gurkha!

Emjaysmash · 11-03-2009, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by bobarian

I guess I need to send K Hansotia an email. I never got my FREE Gurhka hat or cigar case! I will never smoke another Gurkha!

haha, me either.

Course, Gurkhas are less desirable than Camachos, imho.

vankleekkw · 11-03-2009, 09:09 PM

Point well taken guys. Principles are principles whether items are free or not. I guess that we all have differing opinions.

Mods, since I am apparently way off base with this lock it up

Don Fernando · 11-04-2009, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by sodomanaz

I hope Kris never sees a damn thing from that promotion. What a weenbag.

complaining about free cigars, WTF???

Adriftpanda · 11-04-2009, 02:02 AM

My mouth is shut on this... both parties do have some decent arguments. Oh well...

Ratters · 11-04-2009, 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Don Fernando

complaining about free cigars, WTF???

I never got mine either, but who gives a rat's ass. Like Bob I never got my Gurkha swag either. Or some free Montecristo I emailed for a couple years ago. I thought their attempt at viral marketing went pretty well, except for demand being more than expected. Hey, sh*t happens. I once didn't get my promotional bat at an A's game cause they ran out. I didn't complain to the team about it.

The sad thing to me is that they are turning to marketing cigars in a way they mocked in the viral videos, especially with the 101 line of cigars and they way they jacked up their prices even before SCHIP. That's the legitimate stuff to complain about. But that said, I have many boxes of Camachos and will still continue to buy their product as they make a damned fine smoke.

11-03-2009, 05:28 PM	#2
SmokinApe Have My Own Room Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Jeremy Posts: 1,267 Trading: (35)	Re: Camacho Cigars Not sure I totally understand what is going on here...

11-03-2009, 07:16 PM	#4
Emjaysmash The Hebrew Hammer Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: M.J. Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 7,025 Trading: (76)	Re: Camacho Cigars Bob and SmokinApe- As you may or may not know, the promotional "Black Band Project" basically fell flat on its face after the offered free cigars to the participants of the promotion, but has yet to deliver to many of those participants due to shortage of the promotional cigars. Dylan Austin replied to the "Black Band Project" thread on CA and told us that another wave of shipments would be sent out soon, however some the the original cigars promised will be substituted for others that they currently have in stock. This is Kris' response to that promise. __________________

11-03-2009, 07:38 PM	#7
Emjaysmash The Hebrew Hammer Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: M.J. Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 7,025 Trading: (76)	Re: Camacho Cigars Camacho is the brand behind the promotion. __________________

11-03-2009, 07:51 PM	#8
coastietech Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Camacho Cigars I guess I'm wondering how mad could you possibly be about not getting "free" stuff? It's not like they charged you for something and didn't come through. They were giving away free stuff and ran out. Guess everyone has to choose their battles, this wouldn't be one I would make a big deal about. To each his own.

11-03-2009, 07:54 PM	#9
bigheadmark Uncle Jun, how was Boca? Join Date: Sep 2009 First Name: MARK Location: Grand Blanc, Michigan USA Posts: 260 Trading: (1)	Re: Camacho Cigars I must say they make a darn fine cigar!!! the camacho Havano Gigante is phenomenal!!!

11-03-2009, 08:32 PM	#10
captain53 Have My Own Room Join Date: Jul 2009 First Name: Dave Location: Lake of the Ozarks & Austin, TX Posts: 1,333 Trading: (3)	Re: Camacho Cigars Anyone and Everyone who wishes to rid themselves of Camocho Cigars is welcome to send them right on down here to me, I will gladly smoke all of them.

11-03-2009, 08:32 PM	#11
Daustin333 Just in from the Storm Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11 Trading: (0)	Re: Camacho Cigars I don't see how giving over 36,000 free cigars could be considered falling on your face, slinging mud at the face of our company, and not holding up our end of the bargain. Truly, I am bewildered by his attempt to attack me and I refuse to answer the unfounded claims which he has detailed, mainly because the statements are false. As of this Friday, the remaining 300 out 12,300 who participated will have been taken care of. If anyone has an inquiry regarding the project, please feel free to call me directly at any time, 305-592-0722 x747 or email me dylan at camachocigars dot com. Kris, if you would like to call and chat, I would be more than glad to talk. Cheers, Dylan@Camacho

11-03-2009, 08:52 PM	#14
sodomanaz Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Camacho Cigars I hope Kris never sees a damn thing from that promotion. What a weenbag.

11-03-2009, 08:57 PM	#15
bobarian Cranky Habanophile Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Wine Country Posts: 8,869 Trading: (51)	Re: Camacho Cigars I guess I need to send K Hansotia an email. I never got my FREE Gurhka hat or cigar case! I will never smoke another Gurkha!

11-03-2009, 09:09 PM	#17
vankleekkw Still Watching My Back Join Date: Nov 2008 First Name: Kris Location: Round Lake, IL Posts: 136 Trading: (3)	Re: Camacho Cigars Point well taken guys. Principles are principles whether items are free or not. I guess that we all have differing opinions. Mods, since I am apparently way off base with this lock it up

11-04-2009, 02:02 AM	#19
Adriftpanda Peter's Daddy Join Date: May 2009 First Name: Huy Location: No one wants me Posts: 10,313 Trading: (74)	Re: Camacho Cigars My mouth is shut on this... both parties do have some decent arguments. Oh well... __________________ Who eats plantains when they can eat placenta.