Am I still..."man"?

07-14-2009, 01:39 PM

I ask this because I can no longer smoke strong cigars. In fact even medium cigars make me crazy with the nicotine. Today after lunch I had an Upman (NC) cameroon toro and...whoah...I had to lie down. But I was already lying down! What is happening to me!! Seems these days (2 months to my 40) anything stronger than a Conn. shade gives me the whoozies. So I ask you, dear CA inmates

am I still..."man"?

csbrewfisher · 07-14-2009, 01:41 PM

That's interesting. I didn't think that cigars' nic content was all that high. Perhaps there's something else going on...but I hope not.

kelmac07 · 07-14-2009, 01:42 PM

I find myself smoking "stronger" sticks now...

07-14-2009, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by csbrewfisher

That's interesting. I didn't think that cigars' nic content was all that high. Perhaps there's something else going on...but I hope not.

Yikes!!! Thanks for scaring the **** outta me!!!!

MajorCaptSilly · 07-14-2009, 01:45 PM

I've been through it. If you are an occasional smoker (1-3 per week qualifies), you can get hit pretty hard. If your diet, etc has changed it will be a factor as well. Some cane sugar before and after the cigar will help. Anything sugary will lessen the nicotine punch.

MCS

shilala · 07-14-2009, 01:47 PM

About a month ago I smoked an Anejo that was so strong it burned all the buds off my tongue and my mouth hurt for almost a week.
No buzz, but it put a hurtin' on me. Never had that happen before.
I'm with Jerry. You better check your blood pressure or go see the doc or something.
You might have something plugged up.

BlackDog · 07-14-2009, 02:42 PM

Are you having hot flashes? Find yourself crying frequently? Do you still pee standing up?

j/k

I find if I haven't slept well for a few days that strong cigars or pipe tobacco will kick me in the keester.

FriendlyMan · 07-14-2009, 02:51 PM

It could be the heat? try smoking in a cool area and drink more fluids while doing so. And never smoke when your hungry.

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Originally Posted by bookman

I ask this because I can no longer smoke strong cigars. In fact even medium cigars make me crazy with the nicotine. Today after lunch I had an Upman (NC) cameroon toro and...whoah...I had to lie down. But I was already lying down! What is happening to me!! Seems these days (2 months to my 40) anything stronger than a Conn. shade gives me the whoozies. So I ask you, dear CA inmates

am I still..."man"?

Prospector · 07-14-2009, 03:10 PM

Any recent changes to your meds? (all us inmates are on some kind of meds). Could be a drug interaction with the nicotine, which is also a drug. I do think you should discuss with your doctor.

07-14-2009, 03:16 PM

There could be numerous possible reasons. If you were smoking often then stopped or slowed down to "every once in a while", this could be your reason. Are you eating a proper meal before? Did you used to drink beverages with sugar in them while smoking (such as soda or other drink with high sugar content) and now don't? Are you sitting in the direct heat while smoking? Are you a diabetic?

You'll always be a "man". The question is, are you a Mans Man?

Just kidding.

rizzle · 07-14-2009, 03:35 PM

I've been getting hit harder by the nicotine lately as well. I think with me it has had more to do with when I smoked rather than what I smoked though. In other words, not enough in my fat stomach at the time.

csbrewfisher · 07-14-2009, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Prospector

I do think you should discuss with your doctor.

...and your doctor will say "There's absolutely nothing wrong with you son. Now go smoke all the cigars your heart desires, in fact, even more than that. You wouldn't happen to have one I can mooch from you, would you?"

MedicCook · 07-14-2009, 03:42 PM

I have to say that smoking milder cigars does not take away fom be a man. Now if you start smoking cherry flavored cigars then there may be room to question.

lightning9191 · 07-14-2009, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csbrewfisher

...and your doctor will say "There's absolutely nothing wrong with you son. Now go smoke all the cigars your heart desires, in fact, even more than that. You wouldn't happen to have one I can mooch from you, would you?"

I think we should all have your doctor if this is what happens to you!

GreekGodX · 07-14-2009, 04:14 PM

No worries Bookman. Smoke whatever makes you happy brother

You are a man no matter what happens or what you like when you're smoking!

Cigargal · 07-14-2009, 04:15 PM

I would have to say, "Probably not"

seriously-

I agree with some of the others that there might be something else going on with you. Shouldn't be such a drastic change to your smokes like you are having.

JE3146 · 07-14-2009, 04:17 PM

Not to scare you but when my blood sugars are high, even the mildest of smokes will mess me up bad. Diabetes does suck in this hobby. Especially when sugar is supposed to fix the nic buzz but makes you feel worse cus it raises the blood sugar levels.
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csbrewfisher · 07-14-2009, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csbrewfisher

...and your doctor will say "There's absolutely nothing wrong with you son. Now go smoke all the cigars your heart desires, in fact, even more than that. You wouldn't happen to have one I can mooch from you, would you?"

I can assure you...these words would not pass through MY doctor's lips.

Tio Gato · 07-14-2009, 05:03 PM

Getting checked by a Doc may be good advice. (Just in case)

A FOG once told me to take the cigar out of my mouth once in a while. I find that if I'm chewing it or keeping it in my mouth for long periods of time I get a strong buzz. It's like chewing tobacco and smoking it at the same time. Sometimes I'll keep the cigar in my mouth because there's no place to put it. Like when mowing the lawn or driving a standard shift while drinking beer and talking on the cell phone.

Are you still a man? Of course! Sometimes my palate changes and I crave a nice mild Conn. wrapped cigar. Being a gentleman makes you a man, not the strength of the cigar you smoke.

07-14-2009, 05:25 PM

I guess I don't see the corollary between "manliness" and strong cigars.

Scott mentioned the Añejo - the last time *I* had one, my head was spinning. And I smoke at least 2 cigars a day. I may be alone in this, but nicotine-sickness isn't the pinnacle of cigar enjoyment for me. In fact, it's exactly the opposite.

But assuming you're healthy, you may just be going through a change in preferences. For me, I started off like most people with really mild stuff and worked my way up to the really strong cigars over the course of several years. I reached a pinnacle in about 2002, when I took it all the way up to Bolivar Fuertes, Opus's, LFD Chisels, Camacho Havanas, etc. Since then, I have actually been descending the ladder of strength. Aside from the occasional ball-buster, I've pretty much settled on cigars that lie in the flavor profile and strength level of Davidoffs. Hell, my go-to cigar anymore is the Griffin's #300.

So, no I don't think your lack of stomach for the strong stuff is an indicator of your loss of "manhood". If that were an indicator, what would non-smokers be? As far as I know, Brock Lesnar doesn't smoke cigars and I'd pretty much curl up in a ball and suck my thumb if he were coming after me!

07-14-2009, 01:39 PM	#1
bookman Guest Posts: n/a	Am I still..."man"? I ask this because I can no longer smoke strong cigars. In fact even medium cigars make me crazy with the nicotine. Today after lunch I had an Upman (NC) cameroon toro and...whoah...I had to lie down. But I was already lying down! What is happening to me!! Seems these days (2 months to my 40) anything stronger than a Conn. shade gives me the whoozies. So I ask you, dear CA inmates am I still..."man"?

07-14-2009, 01:41 PM	#2
csbrewfisher Welcome to my nightmare Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Jerry Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 676 Trading: (10)	Re: Am I still..."man"? That's interesting. I didn't think that cigars' nic content was all that high. Perhaps there's something else going on...but I hope not. __________________ http://www.facebook.com/csbrewfisher

07-14-2009, 01:45 PM	#5
MajorCaptSilly Sklee Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Location: Mishawaka, IN Posts: 2,523 Trading: (30)	Re: Am I still..."man"? I've been through it. If you are an occasional smoker (1-3 per week qualifies), you can get hit pretty hard. If your diet, etc has changed it will be a factor as well. Some cane sugar before and after the cigar will help. Anything sugary will lessen the nicotine punch. MCS __________________ Pillsbury, Minneapolis, Prince, Spoon Bridge and Cherry, coinkydink?

07-14-2009, 01:47 PM	#6
shilala Dear Lord, Thank You. Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Posts: 13,721 Trading: (252)	Re: Am I still..."man"? About a month ago I smoked an Anejo that was so strong it burned all the buds off my tongue and my mouth hurt for almost a week. No buzz, but it put a hurtin' on me. Never had that happen before. I'm with Jerry. You better check your blood pressure or go see the doc or something. You might have something plugged up. __________________

07-14-2009, 02:42 PM	#7
BlackDog Gonna make you groove... Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Warren Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 2,468 Trading: (19)	Re: Am I still..."man"? Are you having hot flashes? Find yourself crying frequently? Do you still pee standing up? j/k I find if I haven't slept well for a few days that strong cigars or pipe tobacco will kick me in the keester. __________________ "We live in the good of this."

07-14-2009, 01:42 PM	#3
kelmac07 Resident Maduro Whore!! Join Date: Apr 2009 First Name: Mac Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 27,322 Trading: (218)	Re: Am I still..."man"? I find myself smoking "stronger" sticks now...

07-14-2009, 03:10 PM	#9
Prospector I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Mike Location: Arizona's beautiful Verde Valley Posts: 2,500 Trading: (11)	Re: Am I still..."man"? Any recent changes to your meds? (all us inmates are on some kind of meds). Could be a drug interaction with the nicotine, which is also a drug. I do think you should discuss with your doctor.

07-14-2009, 03:16 PM	#10
Waynegro1 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Am I still..."man"? There could be numerous possible reasons. If you were smoking often then stopped or slowed down to "every once in a while", this could be your reason. Are you eating a proper meal before? Did you used to drink beverages with sugar in them while smoking (such as soda or other drink with high sugar content) and now don't? Are you sitting in the direct heat while smoking? Are you a diabetic? You'll always be a "man". The question is, are you a Mans Man? Just kidding. Last edited by Waynegro1; 07-14-2009 at 03:22 PM.

07-14-2009, 03:35 PM	#11
rizzle Order Restored Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: st pete, fl Posts: 2,679 Trading: (23)	Re: Am I still..."man"? I've been getting hit harder by the nicotine lately as well. I think with me it has had more to do with when I smoked rather than what I smoked though. In other words, not enough in my fat stomach at the time.

07-14-2009, 03:42 PM	#13
MedicCook Mila smoked my cigar Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Ryan Location: Schaghticoke, NY Posts: 10,946 Trading: (7)	Re: Am I still..."man"? I have to say that smoking milder cigars does not take away fom be a man. Now if you start smoking cherry flavored cigars then there may be room to question. __________________ 27 World Series Championship's "If your wife doesn't like the aroma of your cigar, change your wife.", Zino Davidoff

07-14-2009, 04:14 PM	#15
GreekGodX Opa!! Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: Christos Location: 7 Line Posts: 4,894 Trading: (82)	Re: Am I still..."man"? No worries Bookman. Smoke whatever makes you happy brother You are a man no matter what happens or what you like when you're smoking! __________________ "If I give a businessman 10,000 francs, what is that to him, he is rich. But if I give him a Cohiba cigar, that is style."-Hotel Rwanda

07-14-2009, 04:15 PM	#16
Cigargal Waiting for SoCal XI Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Northern California Posts: 1,472 Trading: (25)	Re: Am I still..."man"? I would have to say, "Probably not" seriously- I agree with some of the others that there might be something else going on with you. Shouldn't be such a drastic change to your smokes like you are having.

07-14-2009, 04:17 PM	#17
JE3146 Jordan #2 Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Jordan Location: Tigard, OR Posts: 2,115 Trading: (26)	Re: Am I still..."man"? Not to scare you but when my blood sugars are high, even the mildest of smokes will mess me up bad. Diabetes does suck in this hobby. Especially when sugar is supposed to fix the nic buzz but makes you feel worse cus it raises the blood sugar levels. Posted via Mobile Device

07-14-2009, 05:03 PM	#19
Tio Gato Uncle Kitty Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Jeff Location: Casa Grande, AZ Posts: 2,075 Trading: (11)	Re: Am I still..."man"? Getting checked by a Doc may be good advice. (Just in case) A FOG once told me to take the cigar out of my mouth once in a while. I find that if I'm chewing it or keeping it in my mouth for long periods of time I get a strong buzz. It's like chewing tobacco and smoking it at the same time. Sometimes I'll keep the cigar in my mouth because there's no place to put it. Like when mowing the lawn or driving a standard shift while drinking beer and talking on the cell phone. Are you still a man? Of course! Sometimes my palate changes and I crave a nice mild Conn. wrapped cigar. Being a gentleman makes you a man, not the strength of the cigar you smoke. __________________ "You stink like cigars Uncle Kitty!" Said my Boo age 3. "Kid, take care of your family and the hell with anyone else" My Grandpa Bubba.

07-14-2009, 05:25 PM	#20
BillyCigars Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Am I still..."man"? I guess I don't see the corollary between "manliness" and strong cigars. Scott mentioned the Añejo - the last time I had one, my head was spinning. And I smoke at least 2 cigars a day. I may be alone in this, but nicotine-sickness isn't the pinnacle of cigar enjoyment for me. In fact, it's exactly the opposite. But assuming you're healthy, you may just be going through a change in preferences. For me, I started off like most people with really mild stuff and worked my way up to the really strong cigars over the course of several years. I reached a pinnacle in about 2002, when I took it all the way up to Bolivar Fuertes, Opus's, LFD Chisels, Camacho Havanas, etc. Since then, I have actually been descending the ladder of strength. Aside from the occasional ball-buster, I've pretty much settled on cigars that lie in the flavor profile and strength level of Davidoffs. Hell, my go-to cigar anymore is the Griffin's #300. So, no I don't think your lack of stomach for the strong stuff is an indicator of your loss of "manhood". If that were an indicator, what would non-smokers be? As far as I know, Brock Lesnar doesn't smoke cigars and I'd pretty much curl up in a ball and suck my thumb if he were coming after me!