Alienware

Partagaspete · 05-19-2009, 08:16 AM

Okay online gamers my son graduates from H.S. this year and we are buying him a new laptop. He is trying to sell me on this brand but I know very little about them. Any recommendations would be appreciated.

Thank you in advance for your input.

T

Nabinger16 · 05-19-2009, 08:21 AM

I've never messed with one, but I've followed there website for a number of years. They seem to be a division of Dell that is focused on catering to PC gamers. They offer some cutting edge stuff compared to other manufactures.

05-19-2009, 08:22 AM

For most serious gamers, "Gaming" and "Laptop" don't go well together. I would certainly consider either choosing an afordable laptop for school use and working towards a good gaming unit, OR just spending some money on a decent gaming rig. That being said I spent MANY hours in college gaming on my Powerbook Titanium and it was a great experience.

Mugen910 · 05-19-2009, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by DougBushBC

For most serious gamers, "Gaming" and "Laptop" don't go well together. I would certainly consider either choosing an afordable laptop for school use and working towards a good gaming unit, OR just spending some money on a decent gaming rig. That being said I spent MANY hours in college gaming on my Powerbook Titanium and it was a great experience.

Get him a small and light laptop for college...then get to help pay for a "Gaming PC" that he can put in his room with a nice monitor.

05-19-2009, 08:41 AM

As for Alienware, they make good products, but you pay for appearance. If that is an issue, go for it. They used to be one of the best Independents in the Biz, and Dell bought them a few years back and have effed them up a bit.

dunng · 05-19-2009, 08:51 AM

It's just an overpriced Dell XPS now...

rennD · 05-19-2009, 08:59 AM

Good machine, but way overpriced IMHO. I would just get him a Dell Outlet unit. http://www.dell.com/outlet

I usually uncheck the "Lease Return" and "Scratch and Dent" options.

PeteSB75 · 05-19-2009, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by dunng

It's just an overpriced Dell XPS now...

I don't know that I'd go that far, they actually still use higher quality parts rather than the lowest bidder crap that dell uses on their normal boxes. But for a well specced gaming rig, you will pay $3k or more from Alienware. I bought a rig from them a couple years ago and it's great. Their tech support is also better than the normal dell jobbies, separate number.

If you are looking to get a gaming laptop, you will pay $4k+ for a good build, and it is more of a portable desktop than an actual laptop - you'll be lucky to get 45mins on battery. Not worth it, IMO.

If he is really serious about a gaming rig, one of the higher end shops like Alienware or Falcon are really the only way to go, outside of building your own. I've done both and prefer avoiding the hassle of the build and the convenience of having tech support on the phone.

If you are interested in building your own, Tom's Hardware is a good resourse. That article is one of their recent system builder contests, which should have multiple builds at different price points.

marge796 · 05-19-2009, 09:13 AM

I have a friend who has one and hates it. It's been shipped back for warranty repairs twice in the 18 months he's owned it. They're flashy and weigh a ton. I think you could do better for the money.

Chris.....

King James · 05-19-2009, 09:15 AM

my only concern would be that if your son is going to college and will be using the laptop for school work as well, I've heard alienware laptops have horrible battery life. This may have changed with the most recent models, but if it is still the case having something that won't die during the middle of class would be better.

PeteSB75 · 05-19-2009, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by King James

my only concern would be that if your son is going to college and will be using the laptop for school work as well, I've heard alienware laptops have horrible battery life. This may have changed with the most recent models, but if it is still the case having something that won't die during the middle of class would be better.

You will get crap battery out of any laptop specced for gaming. Video cards just pull too much power.

King James · 05-19-2009, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by PeteSB75

You will get crap battery out of any laptop specced for gaming. Video cards just pull too much power.

Yah, thats what I figured. Just didn't know if they made any improvements since I last looked at the specs. I switched to Apple 4 years ago and have been getting more and more out of the loop with PCs lately.

LeoM · 05-19-2009, 09:51 AM

If ya want a gaming rig that "might" not break the bank, voodoo pc and widow pc both make some nice units (I say "might" as price is based on how you rig them). If you're looking for a nice gaming laptop that definately won't break the bank, MSI makes a few that are pretty nice. I've played alot of more demanding games (Crysis, CoD4, WoW, etc.) and even with my mid-level model, it's handled them nicely. I guess it all depends on how far into the extreme you want to go with "gaming".

Partagaspete · 05-20-2009, 03:38 AM

Thanks for all the great input. I should have given more detail.

He is not a hardcore gamer but does like his WoW not to lag...That being said I will probably be looking for something a bit more reasonably priced.

Thanks,

T

Sawyer · 05-20-2009, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Partagaspete

Thanks for all the great input. I should have given more detail.

He is not a hardcore gamer but does like his WoW not to lag...That being said I will probably be looking for something a bit more reasonably priced.

Thanks,

T

You definitely don't need an Alienware to get the most out of WoW. The requirements are actually quite low and just about any laptop with a slightly upgraded video card can handle it easily.

GhostRyder · 05-20-2009, 03:15 PM

My years old Compaq handles WoW okay, back when I played for a week or two. However, I went the cheap laptop (Sam's Club display model of a Compaq Presario for $600) and a gaming rig that I put together myself. For real gaming you definitely want a desktop. The compromise between laptop benefits (size, battery life, portability, weight, etc) and gaming rig requirements (power draining, big monitor, comfortable peripherals, etc) is a fairly worthless machine. Better to have 2 machines that do different things very well then on that does both badly.

Just my

jkim05 · 05-20-2009, 03:30 PM

I've had all kinds of laptops and my current set up suits me perfectly. I got an ASUS 1000he netbook for general web surfing and carrying around and built a custom desktop to do anything rigorous. I realized that I didn't really need to carry around most of my computing power and it was cheaper and more efficient to go with two units. This way I have plenty of battery power and plenty of computing power.

PeteSB75 · 05-20-2009, 04:03 PM

I have two as well, an alienware desktop that rocks whatever games I throw at it, and an older dell laptop that I take with me on the train when I commute. Honestly, the only reason to get a gaming laptop is for lan parties, or if you do a lot of travelling. Basically, due to the crap battery life, it winds up being tied to the power supply regardless of where you go, but it's easier to carry around than tower, monitor, keyboard, mouse.

floydp · 05-20-2009, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Partagaspete

Thanks for all the great input. I should have given more detail.

He is not a hardcore gamer but does like his WoW not to lag...That being said I will probably be looking for something a bit more reasonably priced.

Thanks,

T

Hell Tony you could go with the latest Macbook to do WOW.

BigFrank · 05-20-2009, 06:13 PM

Going to agree with two of the points made. Laptops are junk for gaming. And alienware is just overpriced dell.
I know a few people that have alienware pcs and most wish they would have spent 1/2 the money and got what they really wanted. Also, their warranties are junk.

05-19-2009, 08:16 AM	#1
Partagaspete I Do Medical Things Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: The 1st State Posts: 676 Trading: (8)	Alienware Okay online gamers my son graduates from H.S. this year and we are buying him a new laptop. He is trying to sell me on this brand but I know very little about them. Any recommendations would be appreciated. Thank you in advance for your input. T

05-19-2009, 08:21 AM	#2
Nabinger16 Drowning Ex Gorilla Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: Trent Location: Indiana Posts: 292 Trading: (8)	Re: Alienware I've never messed with one, but I've followed there website for a number of years. They seem to be a division of Dell that is focused on catering to PC gamers. They offer some cutting edge stuff compared to other manufactures.

05-19-2009, 08:22 AM	#3
DougBushBC Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Alienware For most serious gamers, "Gaming" and "Laptop" don't go well together. I would certainly consider either choosing an afordable laptop for school use and working towards a good gaming unit, OR just spending some money on a decent gaming rig. That being said I spent MANY hours in college gaming on my Powerbook Titanium and it was a great experience.

05-19-2009, 08:41 AM	#5
DougBushBC Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Alienware As for Alienware, they make good products, but you pay for appearance. If that is an issue, go for it. They used to be one of the best Independents in the Biz, and Dell bought them a few years back and have effed them up a bit.

05-19-2009, 08:51 AM	#6
dunng MassHole Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Greg Location: MassHole Posts: 4,719 Trading: (59)	Re: Alienware It's just an overpriced Dell XPS now... __________________ MassHole Banter

05-19-2009, 08:59 AM	#7
rennD NinfaManiac Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: Carl Location: In a Cloud of Siglo Smoke Posts: 1,452 Trading: (19)	Re: Alienware Good machine, but way overpriced IMHO. I would just get him a Dell Outlet unit. http://www.dell.com/outlet I usually uncheck the "Lease Return" and "Scratch and Dent" options. __________________ *Any cigars portrayed in this post that appear to be Cuban in origin are completely fictional in nature. Any resemblance between these cigars and actual Cuban cigars is unintended and coincidental.*

05-19-2009, 09:13 AM	#9
marge796 It Just Doesn’t Matter!!! Join Date: Feb 2009 First Name: Chris Location: Topeka KS Posts: 1,624 Trading: (28)	Re: Alienware I have a friend who has one and hates it. It's been shipped back for warranty repairs twice in the 18 months he's owned it. They're flashy and weigh a ton. I think you could do better for the money. Chris..... __________________ “Don’t talk to me about naval tradition. It’s nothing but rum, sodomy and the lash.” -Sir Winston Churchill

05-19-2009, 09:15 AM	#10
King James Regard Me! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Jim Location: Dark Side Of The Moon Posts: 2,565 Trading: (2)	Re: Alienware my only concern would be that if your son is going to college and will be using the laptop for school work as well, I've heard alienware laptops have horrible battery life. This may have changed with the most recent models, but if it is still the case having something that won't die during the middle of class would be better. __________________ Mob Herfin' Since 2006

05-19-2009, 09:51 AM	#13
LeoM "Say what again!" Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Leo Location: Passed out under an Agave Posts: 690 Trading: (87)	Re: Alienware If ya want a gaming rig that "might" not break the bank, voodoo pc and widow pc both make some nice units (I say "might" as price is based on how you rig them). If you're looking for a nice gaming laptop that definately won't break the bank, MSI makes a few that are pretty nice. I've played alot of more demanding games (Crysis, CoD4, WoW, etc.) and even with my mid-level model, it's handled them nicely. I guess it all depends on how far into the extreme you want to go with "gaming".

05-20-2009, 03:38 AM	#14
Partagaspete I Do Medical Things Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: The 1st State Posts: 676 Trading: (8)	Re: Alienware Thanks for all the great input. I should have given more detail. He is not a hardcore gamer but does like his WoW not to lag...That being said I will probably be looking for something a bit more reasonably priced. Thanks, T

05-20-2009, 03:15 PM	#16
GhostRyder Still Watching My Back Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Sam Location: SW Virginia Posts: 185 Trading: (2)	Re: Alienware My years old Compaq handles WoW okay, back when I played for a week or two. However, I went the cheap laptop (Sam's Club display model of a Compaq Presario for $600) and a gaming rig that I put together myself. For real gaming you definitely want a desktop. The compromise between laptop benefits (size, battery life, portability, weight, etc) and gaming rig requirements (power draining, big monitor, comfortable peripherals, etc) is a fairly worthless machine. Better to have 2 machines that do different things very well then on that does both badly. Just my

05-20-2009, 03:30 PM	#17
jkim05 Feeling at Home Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Jeremy Location: Rockville, MD Posts: 519 Trading: (17)	Re: Alienware I've had all kinds of laptops and my current set up suits me perfectly. I got an ASUS 1000he netbook for general web surfing and carrying around and built a custom desktop to do anything rigorous. I realized that I didn't really need to carry around most of my computing power and it was cheaper and more efficient to go with two units. This way I have plenty of battery power and plenty of computing power.

05-20-2009, 04:03 PM	#18
PeteSB75 Have My Own Room Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Pete Location: CT Posts: 1,674 Trading: (18)	Re: Alienware I have two as well, an alienware desktop that rocks whatever games I throw at it, and an older dell laptop that I take with me on the train when I commute. Honestly, the only reason to get a gaming laptop is for lan parties, or if you do a lot of travelling. Basically, due to the crap battery life, it winds up being tied to the power supply regardless of where you go, but it's easier to carry around than tower, monitor, keyboard, mouse. __________________ Formerly Malik23

05-20-2009, 06:13 PM	#20
BigFrank 5 3 1 Join Date: Nov 2008 First Name: Frank Location: Gym or Sofa. Posts: 1,896 Trading: (25)	Re: Alienware Going to agree with two of the points made. Laptops are junk for gaming. And alienware is just overpriced dell. I know a few people that have alienware pcs and most wish they would have spent 1/2 the money and got what they really wanted. Also, their warranties are junk. __________________ " Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment. "