Buying a Telescope?

Footbag · 04-13-2009, 09:55 AM

I've wanted a nice telescope for a long time and after seeing some amazing images of what you can actually see from your home or viewing spot, I've decided not to wait any longer. From browsing some telescope forums I've gotten a starting point. I'm leaning towards a Meade or Celestron, but I am struggling to find an entry point.
I was amazed at some of the features of the GPS enabled telescopes, and could have jumped on one but then I started reading about how I'm going to have to buy all sort of extra lenses which could cost as much as the initial telescope which was already probably a streatch for an entry level telescope.
I read that you can also use the telescope to take pictures, but that would require an expensive camera that I don't have. But sounds interesting.
I also know that I will probably have to get a case for it, to bring it to remote viewing spots, so that is added expense.
Anyone have any telescope buying experiences?

JohnnyFlake · 04-13-2009, 12:29 PM

A telescope is a serious investment, so be very sure of what you want. There are two types of telescopes, refractors and reflectors. Reflectors are usually measured in inches and are bigger that Refractors. Refractors are usually measured in millimeters. They are generally smaller in overall size than Reflectors. Reflectors are usually cheaper than Refractors.

Meade and Celestron both make good beginner scopes! I have used both a Meade and Celestron 4" and 8" Reflectors in the past. Personally, I don't like them, Reflectors that is, and then the quality of construction by either company. I finally ended up with a Stellarvue 90mm Refractor. IMHO a Refractor is the way to go! I bought mine about 4 years ago and only used it moderately for about a year. I have many accessories for it as well.

Look up the Stellarvue online. They are very well regarded If you think you may have an interest in something that advanced, I will make a great offer. PM me and we can discuss.

Footbag · 04-13-2009, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyFlake

A telescope is a serious investment, so be very sure of what you want. There are two types of telescopes, refractors and reflectors. Reflectors are usually measured in inches and are bigger that Refractors. Refractors are usually measured in millimeters. They are generally smaller in overall size than Reflectors. Reflectors are usually cheaper than Refractors.

Meade and Celestron both make good beginner scopes! I have used both a Meade and Celestron 4" and 8" Reflectors in the past. Personally, I don't like them, Reflectors that is, and then the quality of construction by either company. I finally ended up with a Stellarvue 90mm Refractor. IMHO a Refractor is the way to go! I bought mine about 4 years ago and only used it moderately for about a year. I have many accessories for it as well.

Look up the Stellarvue online. They are very well regarded If you think you may have an interest in something that advanced, I will make a great offer. PM me and we can discuss.

Thanks for the tips. It appears I've been mostly looking at reflectors as opposed to refractors. Looks like I've got a good bit more research to do before I can buy.
I had been most impressed with some of the deeper space images I've seen which I think may more conducive to a reflector, but I'm still researching.

Blueface · 04-13-2009, 01:13 PM

I have a friend who is a madman with this stuff.
Has quite a few telescopes that are bigger than you and I put together.

Me? I have a Bushnell North Star.
It is a bit shy of $300 and does what I need.
Doesn't get the image my friend's $2k and $3k scopes do but didn't cost me that much either.

replicant_argent · 04-13-2009, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Blueface

I have a friend who is a madman with this stuff.
Has quite a few telescopes that are bigger than you and I put together.

Me? I have a Bushnell North Star.
It is a bit shy of $300 and does what I need.
Doesn't get the image my friend's $2k and $3k scopes do but didn't cost me that much either.

So... what is Mrs. Kravitz wearing today, my friend?

kaelaria · 04-13-2009, 02:10 PM

I would love one, but alas there is no place around here to enjoy it - too much light pollution.

JohnnyFlake · 04-13-2009, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Footbag

I read that you can also use the telescope to take pictures, but that would require an expensive camera that I don't have.

BTW, you really don't need a crazy expensive camera to take pictures with a telescope. Well, let me clarify that, If you want to use a digital type camera, it can be fairly expensive, as you must buy a SLR Style Camera and right now, in digital, that can be very expensive. The best, low cost way of doing so is by picking up a SLR 35mm camera. You can usually find them for very cheap money at garage sales. Depending on the lens mount style of the camera you end up with, you'll be able to buy and adapter mount to mount it on the telescope. You can get some truly wild and amazing pictures with that type of set up!

GoatLocker · 04-13-2009, 04:52 PM

Astronomy is one of my hobbies that don't seem to be spending much time on lately. I have three scopes: an 80mm APO refractor, a 6" Maksutov-Newtonian and an 8" truss-dob, as well as a small room full of supporting accessories. What kind of scope you get should be guided by what you want to see and how you want to observe.

If you want to observe deep sky objects, like galaxies, nebulae and globular clusters, you need dark sky and plenty of aperture. I think an 8' f/6 Dob reflector is a great way to start and offers a lot of bang for the buck. They also provide great planetary views.

Refractors are nice too, but by the time you add a mount you'll be paying three time as much for half the aperture. Regardless of what type of scope you get, aperture rules (the bigger the better). But if a scope/mount is too large, it might not get used. The best thing to do is find a local club and stop by when they are having a "star party", so you can see and look through a wide variety of scopes. If you join, they might even have loaner scopes.

If you have any questions, feel free to PM me.

skullnrose · 04-13-2009, 05:08 PM

Not much I can add to what has already been said. I researched telescopes for quite sometime but still haven't bought one. On a side note their is a cool freeware program called stellarium that might be something your interest in.

fxpose · 04-13-2009, 07:57 PM

I did astronomy for a while and ended up selling most of my astro gear at the end. Just driving to and from a dark site and spending an entire evening took too much time from my weekends.
What I kept are a couple of giant, large aperature binoculars which I can bring out on moments notice if there's a sky event.
I sold my Takahashi APO refractor used mostly for astrophotography, Losmandy equatorial mount, guide scopes, Celestron C-8, Televue refractor and several eyepiices, Astro-Physics diagonals, camera bodies, hard shell cases, etc, etc, etc....

My suggestion to the OP is to visit star parties and check out the equipment before plucking down some serious $$. There are a lot of junk out there, both inexpensive and expensive, so do your research.

Footbag · 04-16-2009, 07:40 AM

Ended up buying a Celestron CPC 800. This is mean a$$ piece of equipment. Setup took about 25minutes, and the GPS's linked up in another 2. Then I selected three bight objects and it was set. From there on, I just press the tour button, and it gives me a tour of the sky.

Last night, I saw Saturn rings and all, clear as day. My wife was just as amazed as me. I ordered mount so I could attach my camera. Can't wait to see how the pictures come out.

JohnnyFlake · 04-16-2009, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Footbag

Ended up buying a Celestron CPC 800. This is mean a$$ piece of equipment. Setup took about 25minutes, and the GPS's linked up in another 2. Then I selected three bight objects and it was set. From there on, I just press the tour button, and it gives me a tour of the sky.

Last night, I saw Saturn rings and all, clear as day. My wife was just as amazed as me. I ordered mount so I could attach my camera. Can't wait to see how the pictures come out.

If you don't mind sharing, what did the set up cost you?

Also, can you post a few photos of your set up?

Footbag · 04-16-2009, 11:33 AM

It cost me $1799 shipping included. I will post some photo's tonight. I also have a T-ring and adapter coming so I can hopefully take some planetary shots.

GoatLocker · 04-16-2009, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Footbag

Ended up buying a Celestron CPC 800.

That is a cool piece of optics Adam! And 8" is enough to show you a lot and keep you interested for a long time.

MarkinAZ · 04-16-2009, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by GoatLocker

The best thing to do is find a local club and stop by when they are having a "star party", so you can see and look through a wide variety of scopes. If you join, they might even have loaner scopes.

My thoughts exactly

Footbag · 04-16-2009, 06:47 PM

I'm hoping to get to a "star party" before too long. For now, It's just me and my wife. Ordered a few new eyepieces. I'm hoping to get a very close up view of Saturn. I'm having a lot of fun with it. Haven't been able to play with quality scientific equipment like this since high school.

Of course I'm being kept late at work tonight...

Footbag · 04-16-2009, 10:16 PM

A pic of the setup...

MarkinAZ · 04-16-2009, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Footbag

A pic of the setup...

Thats a nice looking set-up Adam. I have an old C8 from back in the early 90's. Yours looks like a C8 on steroids

I bet the GPS is a welcomed feature for your rig...

skullnrose · 04-16-2009, 10:47 PM

Nice pick up that is one of the ones I was considering when I was looking. You now have me looking again.Keep us posted on how you like it.

Footbag · 04-16-2009, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkinCA

Thats a nice looking set-up Adam. I have an old C8 from back in the early 90's. Yours looks like a C8 on steroids

I bet the GPS is a welcomed feature for your rig...

Yeah it's great... With the GPS, you don't have to type in your location or exact time. The Auto-align is amazing. Just point it at three bright objects,(usually the first stars you see in the sky) to set it up. You don't have to know the objects. Then it can point out any of 40,000 objects at a keystroke.

It keeps the objects centered perfectly.

04-13-2009, 09:55 AM	#1
Footbag I Need My Space Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Adam Location: NEPA Posts: 1,216 Trading: (7)	Buying a Telescope? I've wanted a nice telescope for a long time and after seeing some amazing images of what you can actually see from your home or viewing spot, I've decided not to wait any longer. From browsing some telescope forums I've gotten a starting point. I'm leaning towards a Meade or Celestron, but I am struggling to find an entry point. I was amazed at some of the features of the GPS enabled telescopes, and could have jumped on one but then I started reading about how I'm going to have to buy all sort of extra lenses which could cost as much as the initial telescope which was already probably a streatch for an entry level telescope. I read that you can also use the telescope to take pictures, but that would require an expensive camera that I don't have. But sounds interesting. I also know that I will probably have to get a case for it, to bring it to remote viewing spots, so that is added expense. Anyone have any telescope buying experiences?

04-13-2009, 12:29 PM	#2
JohnnyFlake Just an old Wiseguy! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: John Location: Henderson, Nevada Posts: 534 Trading: (18)	Re: Buying a Telescope? A telescope is a serious investment, so be very sure of what you want. There are two types of telescopes, refractors and reflectors. Reflectors are usually measured in inches and are bigger that Refractors. Refractors are usually measured in millimeters. They are generally smaller in overall size than Reflectors. Reflectors are usually cheaper than Refractors. Meade and Celestron both make good beginner scopes! I have used both a Meade and Celestron 4" and 8" Reflectors in the past. Personally, I don't like them, Reflectors that is, and then the quality of construction by either company. I finally ended up with a Stellarvue 90mm Refractor. IMHO a Refractor is the way to go! I bought mine about 4 years ago and only used it moderately for about a year. I have many accessories for it as well. Look up the Stellarvue online. They are very well regarded If you think you may have an interest in something that advanced, I will make a great offer. PM me and we can discuss. __________________ A real man only needs Seven things in his life, Cigars, Women, Guns, Whiskey, Beer, Beans & Bacon!

04-13-2009, 01:13 PM	#4
Blueface Gramps 4x's Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Horatio Seymore Hiny Location: Boca Raton - North of La Habana Posts: 8,774 Trading: (8)	Re: Buying a Telescope? I have a friend who is a madman with this stuff. Has quite a few telescopes that are bigger than you and I put together. Me? I have a Bushnell North Star. It is a bit shy of $300 and does what I need. Doesn't get the image my friend's $2k and $3k scopes do but didn't cost me that much either. __________________ Little known fact: I am a former member of the Village People - The Indian

04-13-2009, 02:10 PM	#6
kaelaria Cigarobsession.com Baby! Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: Bryan Location: Holiday, FL Posts: 736 Trading: (3)	Re: Buying a Telescope? I would love one, but alas there is no place around here to enjoy it - too much light pollution. __________________ Cigar Videos

04-13-2009, 04:52 PM	#8
GoatLocker Dr of Quantum Inebrionics Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Eric Location: Sandy Eggo Posts: 434 Trading: (1)	Re: Buying a Telescope? Astronomy is one of my hobbies that don't seem to be spending much time on lately. I have three scopes: an 80mm APO refractor, a 6" Maksutov-Newtonian and an 8" truss-dob, as well as a small room full of supporting accessories. What kind of scope you get should be guided by what you want to see and how you want to observe. If you want to observe deep sky objects, like galaxies, nebulae and globular clusters, you need dark sky and plenty of aperture. I think an 8' f/6 Dob reflector is a great way to start and offers a lot of bang for the buck. They also provide great planetary views. Refractors are nice too, but by the time you add a mount you'll be paying three time as much for half the aperture. Regardless of what type of scope you get, aperture rules (the bigger the better). But if a scope/mount is too large, it might not get used. The best thing to do is find a local club and stop by when they are having a "star party", so you can see and look through a wide variety of scopes. If you join, they might even have loaner scopes. If you have any questions, feel free to PM me. __________________ "I drink a great deal. I sleep a little, and I smoke cigar after cigar. That is why I am in two-hundred-percent form." Winston Churchill

04-13-2009, 05:08 PM	#9
skullnrose Ashes,ashes,all fall down Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Scott Posts: 799 Trading: (16)	Re: Buying a Telescope? Not much I can add to what has already been said. I researched telescopes for quite sometime but still haven't bought one. On a side note their is a cool freeware program called stellarium that might be something your interest in.

04-13-2009, 07:57 PM	#10
fxpose Park Drive Smokehouse Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 337 Trading: (0)	Re: Buying a Telescope? I did astronomy for a while and ended up selling most of my astro gear at the end. Just driving to and from a dark site and spending an entire evening took too much time from my weekends. What I kept are a couple of giant, large aperature binoculars which I can bring out on moments notice if there's a sky event. I sold my Takahashi APO refractor used mostly for astrophotography, Losmandy equatorial mount, guide scopes, Celestron C-8, Televue refractor and several eyepiices, Astro-Physics diagonals, camera bodies, hard shell cases, etc, etc, etc.... My suggestion to the OP is to visit star parties and check out the equipment before plucking down some serious $$. There are a lot of junk out there, both inexpensive and expensive, so do your research.

04-16-2009, 07:40 AM	#11
Footbag I Need My Space Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Adam Location: NEPA Posts: 1,216 Trading: (7)	Re: Buying a Telescope? Ended up buying a Celestron CPC 800. This is mean a$$ piece of equipment. Setup took about 25minutes, and the GPS's linked up in another 2. Then I selected three bight objects and it was set. From there on, I just press the tour button, and it gives me a tour of the sky. Last night, I saw Saturn rings and all, clear as day. My wife was just as amazed as me. I ordered mount so I could attach my camera. Can't wait to see how the pictures come out.

04-16-2009, 11:33 AM	#13
Footbag I Need My Space Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Adam Location: NEPA Posts: 1,216 Trading: (7)	Re: Buying a Telescope? It cost me $1799 shipping included. I will post some photo's tonight. I also have a T-ring and adapter coming so I can hopefully take some planetary shots.

04-16-2009, 06:47 PM	#16
Footbag I Need My Space Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Adam Location: NEPA Posts: 1,216 Trading: (7)	Re: Buying a Telescope? I'm hoping to get to a "star party" before too long. For now, It's just me and my wife. Ordered a few new eyepieces. I'm hoping to get a very close up view of Saturn. I'm having a lot of fun with it. Haven't been able to play with quality scientific equipment like this since high school. Of course I'm being kept late at work tonight...

04-16-2009, 10:16 PM	#17
Footbag I Need My Space Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Adam Location: NEPA Posts: 1,216 Trading: (7)	Re: Buying a Telescope? A pic of the setup...

04-16-2009, 10:47 PM	#19
skullnrose Ashes,ashes,all fall down Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Scott Posts: 799 Trading: (16)	Re: Buying a Telescope? Nice pick up that is one of the ones I was considering when I was looking. You now have me looking again.Keep us posted on how you like it.