On the eve of Schip, any boycotters?

Tio Gato · 03-31-2009, 07:00 PM

Sorry if this has been knocked around before, I didn't find it in a search.

Anyone not going to buy cigars in protest of the Schip tax increase? I'm sick and tired of paying so much taxes. I figure I've got enough cigars to last 4 or 5 years put away. I'm confident that these taxes will never be repealed, even if we have "universal health care". Maybe I'm wasting my time thinking that the many $ I spend a year will be missed by the industry.

So, I'm asking, have you thought about not buying cigars in protest?
I guess I'm madder because I decided to visit a B&M near me to pick up "one last cigar" and they had decided to go out of business.

I'm mad, anyone going to stop buying cigars?

BORIStheBLADE · 03-31-2009, 07:01 PM

Yes I'm going strictly CC now.

Smokin Gator · 03-31-2009, 07:07 PM

This tax, like many others, will never bring in what they projected... so they will come up with another one to cover for it.

Raralith · 03-31-2009, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BORIStheBLADE

Yes I'm going strictly CC now.

14holestogie · 03-31-2009, 07:26 PM

Yep, cc's all the way.

03-31-2009, 07:38 PM

I can handle it. For me going to my tobacconist (JR's) is a social thing anyway. I rarely buy online. So I may not buy boxes anymore but JR's has a great selection of five/ten packs and hundreds of singles to try.

MedicCook · 03-31-2009, 07:42 PM

I think if you boycott all you will do is hurt the people trying to run their business especially the small mom & pop B&M's.

SeanGAR · 03-31-2009, 07:45 PM

No, actually I'm going to my local to buy some smokes.

These ridiculous taxes are going to be putting people out of work.

Frankly, I don't mind the liars at RJR having to flip burgers due to tax increases, but the guys at my local are gold, and I'm showing up to buy some cigars in support of their store.

F*n tax and spend morons in government.

Did y'all see the picture of what a trillion dollars looks like? You absolutely couldn't fit that much money in $100 bills floor to ceiling in my house.

Did I mention the morons in DC?

03-31-2009, 07:45 PM

I'll never stop buying cigars...

03-31-2009, 07:59 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong (which I probably am). The cap is 40 cents per cigar. So If you buy a box of 20 cigars. The price will increase 8 bucks. A 100 dollar box will be 108 and a 500 dollar box will be 508. Meh. I'll still buy cigars. It sucks but I'll still buy.

03-31-2009, 08:01 PM

I'm definitely MAD!!

I just don't see how they lump Premium Cigar tobacco in with Cigarettes. After all, cigars aren't full of chemicals and toxic additives. A cigar smoker doesn't smoke a "Pack" of cigars a day. A cigar smoker doesn't inhale smoke into his/her lungs. Cigars are a minimal health risk compared to cigarettes IMO. That being said, cigarettes will contribute the majority of tax dollars.

As far as a protest, I could smoke a couple cigars daily, for a couple years and not run out. I won't protest because I love my B&M and would hate to see them go out of business.

The whole things frustrates me. It just seems oxymoronic to fund a segment of health care with something that the government deams unhealthy.

That's all, I need a cigar

MedicCook · 03-31-2009, 08:04 PM

Maybe people need to start throwing cigars into the Boston Bay.

03-31-2009, 08:05 PM

Think positive: At least we don't pay Canadian tobacco taxes

ECPrevatte · 03-31-2009, 08:32 PM

I wonder how many people will be at my B&M tomorrow.

duckmanco · 03-31-2009, 08:43 PM

I am done stocking up, have smokes for many many years to come, in fact so much I am worried about aging stuff too long.... oh well

At any rate, I will only be buying exceptional deals/closeouts or switch to those manufactures/retailers who attempt to absorb the increase or at least lend a hand with it. We'll all see if that happens.

s15driftking · 03-31-2009, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Tio Gato

Anyone not going to buy cigars in protest of the Schip tax increase?

I am going to do it as long as i can. I honestly am. I have been buying up cigars by the dozens in the last month.

Additionally, i am going expand on my CC collection and buy "non taxable" cigars for the most part now.... Imagine that.. .200 gurkhas and 200 CC's ... MMMMMMM

chippewastud79 · 03-31-2009, 09:23 PM

I think the idea of boycotting buying cigars is actually going to be slightly counter productive. Some B+M's have said they will struggle to stay open with the new taxes and I think this would be far more sad to see B+M's close than paying the price increases. In the end the tax will likely not go away, we are going to be stuck with it. It is similar to gas prices, people often say "I'll stop buying gas when it goes over $X.XX" but we all still buy gas. The same is likely to happen with cigars, "I'm never buying cigars again", but we all know we will.

Side note: After talking with Micah at the Party Source, the price increases won't filter down from the manufacturers until the B+M's order new stock, so there should be some period of non-SCHIP prices on certain cigars.

JaKaacH · 03-31-2009, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Beer Doctor

Think positive: At least we don't pay Canadian tobacco taxes

What Slope?????

Once it starts....

03-31-2009, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Beer Doctor

Correct me if I'm wrong (which I probably am). The cap is 40 cents per cigar. So If you buy a box of 20 cigars. The price will increase 8 bucks. A 100 dollar box will be 108 and a 500 dollar box will be 508. Meh. I'll still buy cigars. It sucks but I'll still buy.

The problem with that is everyone down the line uses this as a way to add their cut.

My wife smokes cigarettes. Here they have already went up over a buck a pack since the bill passed and the tax has not even been added yet. So the announced $1 a pack will actually be $2 a pack once everyone gets their cut. Cigars may not be that bad but we will just have to wait and see.

Chas

03-31-2009, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MedicCook

Maybe people need to start throwing cigars into the Boston Bay.

cigars? More like politicians. Starting with this tard Patrick here in MA.

I will not stop buying cigars. I will try to slow down a bit though.

03-31-2009, 07:00 PM	#1
Tio Gato Uncle Kitty Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Jeff Location: Casa Grande, AZ Posts: 2,075 Trading: (11)	On the eve of Schip, any boycotters? Sorry if this has been knocked around before, I didn't find it in a search. Anyone not going to buy cigars in protest of the Schip tax increase? I'm sick and tired of paying so much taxes. I figure I've got enough cigars to last 4 or 5 years put away. I'm confident that these taxes will never be repealed, even if we have "universal health care". Maybe I'm wasting my time thinking that the many $ I spend a year will be missed by the industry. So, I'm asking, have you thought about not buying cigars in protest? I guess I'm madder because I decided to visit a B&M near me to pick up "one last cigar" and they had decided to go out of business. I'm mad, anyone going to stop buying cigars? __________________ "You stink like cigars Uncle Kitty!" Said my Boo age 3. "Kid, take care of your family and the hell with anyone else" My Grandpa Bubba.

03-31-2009, 07:01 PM	#2
BORIStheBLADE _ Join Date: Nov 2008 First Name: Mike Location: Santa Clara, CA Posts: 643 Trading: (4)	Re: On the eve of Schip, any boycotters? Yes I'm going strictly CC now. __________________ I.B.E.W LOCAL # 617

03-31-2009, 07:07 PM	#3
Smokin Gator Just plain insane! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: The Swamp Posts: 6,237 Trading: (106)	Re: On the eve of Schip, any boycotters? This tax, like many others, will never bring in what they projected... so they will come up with another one to cover for it. __________________ Check out the Cigar Asylum Newbie Sampler Trade

03-31-2009, 07:26 PM	#5
14holestogie Serial banter killer Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tim Location: Clintonville, WI Posts: 4,341 Trading: (52)	Re: On the eve of Schip, any boycotters? Yep, cc's all the way. __________________ *I loves me a Parti*

03-31-2009, 07:38 PM	#6
bookman Guest Posts: n/a	Re: On the eve of Schip, any boycotters? I can handle it. For me going to my tobacconist (JR's) is a social thing anyway. I rarely buy online. So I may not buy boxes anymore but JR's has a great selection of five/ten packs and hundreds of singles to try.

03-31-2009, 07:42 PM	#7
MedicCook Mila smoked my cigar Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Ryan Location: Schaghticoke, NY Posts: 10,946 Trading: (7)	Re: On the eve of Schip, any boycotters? I think if you boycott all you will do is hurt the people trying to run their business especially the small mom & pop B&M's.

03-31-2009, 07:45 PM	#8
SeanGAR Crotchety Geezer Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Radford VA Posts: 911 Trading: (3)	Re: On the eve of Schip, any boycotters? No, actually I'm going to my local to buy some smokes. These ridiculous taxes are going to be putting people out of work. Frankly, I don't mind the liars at RJR having to flip burgers due to tax increases, but the guys at my local are gold, and I'm showing up to buy some cigars in support of their store. Fn tax and spend morons in government. Did y'all see the picture of what a trillion dollars looks like? You absolutely couldn't fit that much money in $100 bills floor to ceiling in my house. Did I mention the morons in DC? __________________ How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?*

03-31-2009, 07:45 PM	#9
shortstory5 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: On the eve of Schip, any boycotters? I'll never stop buying cigars...

03-31-2009, 07:59 PM	#10
Beer Doctor Guest Posts: n/a	Re: On the eve of Schip, any boycotters? Correct me if I'm wrong (which I probably am). The cap is 40 cents per cigar. So If you buy a box of 20 cigars. The price will increase 8 bucks. A 100 dollar box will be 108 and a 500 dollar box will be 508. Meh. I'll still buy cigars. It sucks but I'll still buy.

03-31-2009, 08:01 PM	#11
Waynegro1 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: On the eve of Schip, any boycotters? I'm definitely MAD!! I just don't see how they lump Premium Cigar tobacco in with Cigarettes. After all, cigars aren't full of chemicals and toxic additives. A cigar smoker doesn't smoke a "Pack" of cigars a day. A cigar smoker doesn't inhale smoke into his/her lungs. Cigars are a minimal health risk compared to cigarettes IMO. That being said, cigarettes will contribute the majority of tax dollars. As far as a protest, I could smoke a couple cigars daily, for a couple years and not run out. I won't protest because I love my B&M and would hate to see them go out of business. The whole things frustrates me. It just seems oxymoronic to fund a segment of health care with something that the government deams unhealthy. That's all, I need a cigar

03-31-2009, 08:04 PM	#12
MedicCook Mila smoked my cigar Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Ryan Location: Schaghticoke, NY Posts: 10,946 Trading: (7)	Re: On the eve of Schip, any boycotters? Maybe people need to start throwing cigars into the Boston Bay.

03-31-2009, 08:05 PM	#13
Beer Doctor Guest Posts: n/a	Re: On the eve of Schip, any boycotters? Think positive: At least we don't pay Canadian tobacco taxes

03-31-2009, 08:32 PM	#14
ECPrevatte Baylor University Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: Eric Location: Austin, TX Posts: 46 Trading: (4)	Re: On the eve of Schip, any boycotters? I wonder how many people will be at my B&M tomorrow.

03-31-2009, 08:43 PM	#15
duckmanco Can't stop whats coming Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: that forsaken stretch of wood they call Whiskey Grove Posts: 404 Trading: (10)	Re: On the eve of Schip, any boycotters? I am done stocking up, have smokes for many many years to come, in fact so much I am worried about aging stuff too long.... oh well At any rate, I will only be buying exceptional deals/closeouts or switch to those manufactures/retailers who attempt to absorb the increase or at least lend a hand with it. We'll all see if that happens. __________________ "...Ain't no dark till somethin' shines..."

03-31-2009, 09:23 PM	#17
chippewastud79 Fatter than you! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Larry Location: A little place called home. Posts: 5,397 Trading: (44)	Re: On the eve of Schip, any boycotters? I think the idea of boycotting buying cigars is actually going to be slightly counter productive. Some B+M's have said they will struggle to stay open with the new taxes and I think this would be far more sad to see B+M's close than paying the price increases. In the end the tax will likely not go away, we are going to be stuck with it. It is similar to gas prices, people often say "I'll stop buying gas when it goes over $X.XX" but we all still buy gas. The same is likely to happen with cigars, "I'm never buying cigars again", but we all know we will. Side note: After talking with Micah at the Party Source, the price increases won't filter down from the manufacturers until the B+M's order new stock, so there should be some period of non-SCHIP prices on certain cigars. __________________ If we weren't supposed to eat animals, then how come they're made of meat? You can never have too many cigars, they are like an investment in good times.