A thought on freezing and a question

03-15-2010, 12:25 PM

I was thinking about freezing some stuff and setting up a cooler for aging. I had a thought, some boxes don't fit in bags even the largest zip loc bag.

Is it ok to remove them from the box and freeze them in a bag and put them back into the box? Common sense says yes, but I figured I would ask. I don't think beetle eggs would get into the wood, but weirder stuff has happened.
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NCRadioMan · 03-15-2010, 12:28 PM

Yep, no worries D.

wayner123 · 03-15-2010, 12:30 PM

Glad-loc press and seal is your friend. Or if you got it, a big vacuum sealer. I have also just wrapped in saran wrap a few times and had no adverse effects. I have also just taken the sticks out as in singles and froze in a freezer zip loc bag.

03-15-2010, 12:38 PM

You know they sell a 2 gallon ziploc now.
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lostark374 · 03-15-2010, 12:51 PM

http://www.ziploc.com/Products/Pages...x?SizeName=XXL

that should hold you.... really

03-15-2010, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Darrell

I was thinking about freezing some stuff and setting up a cooler for aging. I had a thought, some boxes don't fit in bags even the largest zip loc bag.

Is it ok to remove them from the box and freeze them in a bag and put them back into the box? Common sense says yes, but I figured I would ask. I don't think beetle eggs would get into the wood, but weirder stuff has happened.
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Thats how I always did it D, froze just the cigars not the box.

Ferrari5180 · 03-15-2010, 01:17 PM

Hello Darrell,

I always freeze my cigars that I buy online, regardless of the rep. I usually put them all in ziplock bags (size depends on how many cigars and bags you want), and then put them in the fridge for 24 hours. Then I move them to a freezer that is at -15 C for 5 days. I then remove them to the fridge for another 24 hours. Lastly, I let them thaw on the counter in the ziplocks for 5 hours. Good luck with your freezing bud.

T.G · 03-15-2010, 01:26 PM

It's highly unlikely, but not impossible, for a paper or cardboard box to be a source of a beetle egg. A cedar cab or SLB is going to carry an even lesser chance.

mosesbotbol · 03-15-2010, 01:36 PM

I like to put in fridge first then freezer, back to fridge then humidor.

03-15-2010, 04:15 PM

I had an outbreak once. I walked over to my little destop humi and saw a few little brown spots flying up and hitting the glasstop. I know this isn't the recommended method but I stuck my whole humi with the cigars in it in the freezer. I then moved them to the fridge 24 hours later and then let everything thaw and reseasoned the humi and all. Aside from the pain of getting the humi reseasoned right I saw no adverse effects. My sticks were all fine and no more outbreaks since then.

I haven't frozen anything since and don't think I will as I watch my humis like a hawk and I was able to easily catch the first outbreak.

mosesbotbol · 03-15-2010, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by buttah

I had an outbreak once. I walked over to my little destop humi and saw a few little brown spots flying up and hitting the glasstop. I know this isn't the recommended method but I stuck my whole humi with the cigars in it in the freezer. I then moved them to the fridge 24 hours later and then let everything thaw and reseasoned the humi and all. Aside from the pain of getting the humi reseasoned right I saw no adverse effects. My sticks were all fine and no more outbreaks since then.

I haven't frozen anything since and don't think I will as I watch my humis like a hawk and I was able to easily catch the first outbreak.

The exact same thing happened to me 12 years ago and freezed the humidor too. Exact same outcome. The problem with desktop humidors is that they can get too humid much easier than big cabinet.

I recommend no humidity device through the summer if at all possible.

03-15-2010, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol

The problem with desktop humidors is that they can get too humid much easier than big cabinet.

I don't know. I've had the best luck with my little 50 count. Aside from that one incident, which happened in a house with no A/C in the summer time. It keeps a steady 65% year round with 4 oz of 70% heartfelt beads and a 65% heartfelt sheet.
I've had coolers and now have vinotemps and they are a constant battle the humidor just keeps on ticking away.

St. Lou Stu · 03-15-2010, 08:08 PM

I used some Ziploc Large or Extra Large bags..... about 5 gallon size,
I was able to fit about 4 dress boxes or 2 cabs in each.

http://www.ziploc.com/Products/Pages...NonFoodStorage

I double bagged each and reused them until it was all done. Fridge, Freeze, Fridge cycles.
Went through a 3 week period to freeze it all last year.

maverickdrinker · 03-16-2010, 12:30 AM

I always freeze everything. Not worth the risk of having an outbreak.

My steps are fairly similar

1) Saran wrap the SH*T out of the box
2) Into the fridge for 24 hours
3) Freezer for 3 to 5 days
4) Back into the fridge for 24 hours
5) on the counter for 4 to 6 hours
6) Into the humi it goes

Never had an outbreak yet. Hope that the streak continues.

03-15-2010, 12:25 PM	#1
Darrell Guest Posts: n/a	A thought on freezing and a question I was thinking about freezing some stuff and setting up a cooler for aging. I had a thought, some boxes don't fit in bags even the largest zip loc bag. Is it ok to remove them from the box and freeze them in a bag and put them back into the box? Common sense says yes, but I figured I would ask. I don't think beetle eggs would get into the wood, but weirder stuff has happened. Posted via Mobile Device

03-15-2010, 12:28 PM	#2
NCRadioMan Chutney Lovebusciut Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Chutney Location: On the shores of Loch Shiel Posts: 4,277 Trading: (66)	Re: A thought on freezing and a question Yep, no worries D. __________________ The path to loyalty is trust.

03-15-2010, 12:30 PM	#3
wayner123 Country Gentleman Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Deltona, FL Posts: 2,351 Trading: (159)	Re: A thought on freezing and a question Glad-loc press and seal is your friend. Or if you got it, a big vacuum sealer. I have also just wrapped in saran wrap a few times and had no adverse effects. I have also just taken the sticks out as in singles and froze in a freezer zip loc bag. __________________ 'It is an honor for a man to keep aloof from strife; But every fool will be quarrelling.'

03-15-2010, 12:38 PM	#4
leasingthisspace Guest Posts: n/a	Re: A thought on freezing and a question You know they sell a 2 gallon ziploc now. Posted via Mobile Device

03-15-2010, 12:51 PM	#5
lostark374 Framed Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Aaron Location: Southern California Posts: 432 Trading: (5)	Re: A thought on freezing and a question http://www.ziploc.com/Products/Pages...x?SizeName=XXL that should hold you.... really __________________ Eatin Kernel's Chicken, Drinkin Heineken Brew!!!!!

03-15-2010, 01:17 PM	#7
Ferrari5180 Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 433 Trading: (0)	Re: A thought on freezing and a question Hello Darrell, I always freeze my cigars that I buy online, regardless of the rep. I usually put them all in ziplock bags (size depends on how many cigars and bags you want), and then put them in the fridge for 24 hours. Then I move them to a freezer that is at -15 C for 5 days. I then remove them to the fridge for another 24 hours. Lastly, I let them thaw on the counter in the ziplocks for 5 hours. Good luck with your freezing bud.

03-15-2010, 01:26 PM	#8
T.G Grrrrrr Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: The Other Adam Posts: 15,557 Trading: (37)	Re: A thought on freezing and a question It's highly unlikely, but not impossible, for a paper or cardboard box to be a source of a beetle egg. A cedar cab or SLB is going to carry an even lesser chance.

03-15-2010, 01:36 PM	#9
mosesbotbol That's a Corgi Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Moses Location: Boston Posts: 6,171 Trading: (6)	Re: A thought on freezing and a question I like to put in fridge first then freezer, back to fridge then humidor. __________________ Port Wine & Claret \| British Cars \| Welsh Corgi's

03-15-2010, 04:15 PM	#10
buttah Guest Posts: n/a	Re: A thought on freezing and a question I had an outbreak once. I walked over to my little destop humi and saw a few little brown spots flying up and hitting the glasstop. I know this isn't the recommended method but I stuck my whole humi with the cigars in it in the freezer. I then moved them to the fridge 24 hours later and then let everything thaw and reseasoned the humi and all. Aside from the pain of getting the humi reseasoned right I saw no adverse effects. My sticks were all fine and no more outbreaks since then. I haven't frozen anything since and don't think I will as I watch my humis like a hawk and I was able to easily catch the first outbreak.

03-15-2010, 08:08 PM	#13
St. Lou Stu Have My Own Room Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tim Location: Belleville, IL (St. Louis) Posts: 2,304 Trading: (21)	Re: A thought on freezing and a question I used some Ziploc Large or Extra Large bags..... about 5 gallon size, I was able to fit about 4 dress boxes or 2 cabs in each. http://www.ziploc.com/Products/Pages...NonFoodStorage I double bagged each and reused them until it was all done. Fridge, Freeze, Fridge cycles. Went through a 3 week period to freeze it all last year. __________________ Pretending to play golf since 1989

03-16-2010, 12:30 AM	#14
maverickdrinker I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Nov 2008 First Name: art Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 2,590 Trading: (15)	Re: A thought on freezing and a question I always freeze everything. Not worth the risk of having an outbreak. My steps are fairly similar 1) Saran wrap the SH*T out of the box 2) Into the fridge for 24 hours 3) Freezer for 3 to 5 days 4) Back into the fridge for 24 hours 5) on the counter for 4 to 6 hours 6) Into the humi it goes Never had an outbreak yet. Hope that the streak continues.