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Darrell 03-15-2010 11:25 AM
A thought on freezing and a question
 
I was thinking about freezing some stuff and setting up a cooler for aging. I had a thought, some boxes don't fit in bags even the largest zip loc bag.

Is it ok to remove them from the box and freeze them in a bag and put them back into the box? Common sense says yes, but I figured I would ask. I don't think beetle eggs would get into the wood, but weirder stuff has happened.
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NCRadioMan 03-15-2010 11:28 AM
Re: A thought on freezing and a question
 
Yep, no worries D.

wayner123 03-15-2010 11:30 AM
Re: A thought on freezing and a question
 
Glad-loc press and seal is your friend. Or if you got it, a big vacuum sealer. I have also just wrapped in saran wrap a few times and had no adverse effects. I have also just taken the sticks out as in singles and froze in a freezer zip loc bag.

leasingthisspace 03-15-2010 11:38 AM
Re: A thought on freezing and a question
 
You know they sell a 2 gallon ziploc now.
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Addiction 03-15-2010 11:51 AM
Re: A thought on freezing and a question
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Darrell (Post 794754)
I was thinking about freezing some stuff and setting up a cooler for aging. I had a thought, some boxes don't fit in bags even the largest zip loc bag.

Is it ok to remove them from the box and freeze them in a bag and put them back into the box? Common sense says yes, but I figured I would ask. I don't think beetle eggs would get into the wood, but weirder stuff has happened.
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Thats how I always did it D, froze just the cigars not the box.

lostark374 03-15-2010 11:51 AM
Re: A thought on freezing and a question
 
http://www.ziploc.com/Products/Pages...x?SizeName=XXL



that should hold you.... really

Ferrari5180 03-15-2010 12:17 PM
Re: A thought on freezing and a question
 
Hello Darrell,

I always freeze my cigars that I buy online, regardless of the rep. I usually put them all in ziplock bags (size depends on how many cigars and bags you want), and then put them in the fridge for 24 hours. Then I move them to a freezer that is at -15 C for 5 days. I then remove them to the fridge for another 24 hours. Lastly, I let them thaw on the counter in the ziplocks for 5 hours. Good luck with your freezing bud.

T.G 03-15-2010 12:26 PM
Re: A thought on freezing and a question
 
It's highly unlikely, but not impossible, for a paper or cardboard box to be a source of a beetle egg. A cedar cab or SLB is going to carry an even lesser chance.

mosesbotbol 03-15-2010 12:36 PM
Re: A thought on freezing and a question
 
I like to put in fridge first then freezer, back to fridge then humidor.

buttah 03-15-2010 03:15 PM
Re: A thought on freezing and a question
 
I had an outbreak once. I walked over to my little destop humi and saw a few little brown spots flying up and hitting the glasstop. I know this isn't the recommended method but I stuck my whole humi with the cigars in it in the freezer. I then moved them to the fridge 24 hours later and then let everything thaw and reseasoned the humi and all. Aside from the pain of getting the humi reseasoned right I saw no adverse effects. My sticks were all fine and no more outbreaks since then.

I haven't frozen anything since and don't think I will as I watch my humis like a hawk and I was able to easily catch the first outbreak.

mosesbotbol 03-15-2010 05:51 PM
Re: A thought on freezing and a question
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by buttah (Post 794959)
I had an outbreak once. I walked over to my little destop humi and saw a few little brown spots flying up and hitting the glasstop. I know this isn't the recommended method but I stuck my whole humi with the cigars in it in the freezer. I then moved them to the fridge 24 hours later and then let everything thaw and reseasoned the humi and all. Aside from the pain of getting the humi reseasoned right I saw no adverse effects. My sticks were all fine and no more outbreaks since then.



I haven't frozen anything since and don't think I will as I watch my humis like a hawk and I was able to easily catch the first outbreak.
The exact same thing happened to me 12 years ago and freezed the humidor too. Exact same outcome. The problem with desktop humidors is that they can get too humid much easier than big cabinet.

I recommend no humidity device through the summer if at all possible.

buttah 03-15-2010 06:34 PM
Re: A thought on freezing and a question
 
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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol (Post 795135)
The problem with desktop humidors is that they can get too humid much easier than big cabinet.
I don't know. I've had the best luck with my little 50 count. Aside from that one incident, which happened in a house with no A/C in the summer time. It keeps a steady 65% year round with 4 oz of 70% heartfelt beads and a 65% heartfelt sheet.
I've had coolers and now have vinotemps and they are a constant battle the humidor just keeps on ticking away.

St. Lou Stu 03-15-2010 07:08 PM
Re: A thought on freezing and a question
 
I used some Ziploc Large or Extra Large bags..... about 5 gallon size,
I was able to fit about 4 dress boxes or 2 cabs in each.

http://www.ziploc.com/Products/Pages...NonFoodStorage

I double bagged each and reused them until it was all done. Fridge, Freeze, Fridge cycles.
Went through a 3 week period to freeze it all last year.

maverickdrinker 03-15-2010 11:30 PM
Re: A thought on freezing and a question
 
I always freeze everything. Not worth the risk of having an outbreak.

My steps are fairly similar

1) Saran wrap the SH*T out of the box
2) Into the fridge for 24 hours
3) Freezer for 3 to 5 days
4) Back into the fridge for 24 hours
5) on the counter for 4 to 6 hours
6) Into the humi it goes

Never had an outbreak yet. Hope that the streak continues.


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