A-Fraud Tests Positive for Steroid Use - Page 4

MedicCook · 02-09-2009, 06:13 PM

At this point I think every player in the last 10-15 years has done PEDs at least once in their career.

ScottieM · 02-09-2009, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MedicCook

At this point I think every player in the last 10-15 years has done PEDs at least once in their career.

I agree to a point. If I had to guess, 50-60%

MedicCook · 02-09-2009, 06:26 PM

The one name that scares me coming out is Jeter.

Starscream · 02-09-2009, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MedicCook

The one name that scares me coming out is Jeter.

You can't tell by looks alone, but Jeter doesn't have the "look" of a steroid user. But then again, neither do many of the smaller size wrestlers in the WWE who have tested positive through the years.

gettysburgfreak · 02-09-2009, 07:02 PM

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You can't tell by looks alone, but Jeter doesn't have the "look" of a steroid user. But then again, neither do many of the smaller size wrestlers in the WWE who have tested positive through the years.

He is a pretty big dude, he was 2 feet in front of me at Fenway in 04. Most of the designer PEDs guys are taking now don't give you the Conseco, McGuire look. The stuff A-Rod took did not give him that roided look but he still looked absolutely huge. I have a pic I took of him and Jeter walking side by side in 2004 and A-Rod is way bigger than Jeter

Yazzie · 02-09-2009, 07:08 PM

Texeira played on that Rangers team as well........

ScottieM · 02-09-2009, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by gettysburgfreak

He is a pretty big dude, he was 2 feet in front of me at Fenway in 04. Most of the designer PEDs guys are taking now don't give you the Conseco, McGuire look. The stuff A-Rod took did not give him that roided look but he still looked absolutely huge. I have a pic I took of him and Jeter walking side by side in 2004 and A-Rod is way bigger than Jeter

OK, How about Big Papi? How about Manny? Let's throw Varitek in there too.

MedicCook · 02-09-2009, 07:55 PM

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OK, How about Big Papi? How about Manny?

I have always thought Manny was a roider especially with all his personality issues. Big Papi I think is just a big dude.

gettysburgfreak · 02-09-2009, 07:58 PM

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OK, How about Big Papi? How about Manny? Let's throw Varitek in there too.

Varitek is a freakin monster as well, saw him up close a few times this past season. Its possible hes on something. I agree about Ortiz I think hes just a natural big dude.

MedicCook · 02-09-2009, 06:41 PM

You also have to look at the players that have tested positive the last year have mostly been skinny middle relievers that do not have that roid look. It also takes years of use to get the Bonds look.

MedicCook · 02-09-2009, 07:10 PM

The worst part of this is that sumbag Canseco has been proven right yet again.

gettysburgfreak · 02-09-2009, 07:30 PM

Here are a few pics of A-Rod and Jeter on July 24, 2004

taltos · 02-09-2009, 07:40 PM

Pudge Rodriguez was also on the team with A-Rod for 2 years. He never seemed to get big but he stayed heathier than many other catchers. All this witch hunting could have been avoided if the Commissioner's Office had kept their word and destroyed the records after getting the statistical data. And once again for you Yankee fans, I do expect that several Red Sox players will be on the list if it is ever released including Nomar.

MedicCook · 02-09-2009, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by gettysburgfreak

Here are a few pics of A-Rod and Jeter on July 24, 2004

I agree that A-Rod does not have that bulky roid look especially in these pictures.

MedicCook · 02-09-2009, 08:04 PM

A good way to gauge is who are the players with chronic joint injuries. These guys put on the mass and increase muscles and the tendons & ligaments at the joints fail from the added stress.

taltos · 02-09-2009, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MedicCook

A good way to gauge is who are the players with chronic joint injuries. These guys put on the mass and increase muscles and the tendons & ligaments at the joints fail from the added stress.

Being overweight does the same thing to knees which is where Papi has had his major problems.

VirtualSmitty · 02-09-2009, 08:37 PM

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Being overweight does the same thing to knees which is where Papi has had his major problems.

Look at Papis numbers when he played for Minnesota. He picked up off waivers and became a power slugger. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if he was juicing too.

Yazzie · 02-09-2009, 08:39 PM

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Look at Papis numbers when he played for Minnesota. He picked up off waivers and became a power slugger. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if he was juicing too.

Maybe, but tonight he is not the one crying to Peter Gammons about how stressful life was....

VirtualSmitty · 02-09-2009, 08:41 PM

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Maybe, but tonight he is not the one crying to Peter Gammons about how stressful life was....

I'm sure he'll have his chance soon enough

taltos · 02-09-2009, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by VirtualSmitty

Look at Papis numbers when he played for Minnesota. He picked up off waivers and became a power slugger. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if he was juicing too.

You normally do better research than this. At Minnesota they had a manager and batting coach who wanted to play small ball and have him hit for average. He was allowed to do it his way when Boston picked him up. It is very possible that he did juice but from watching him for most every game since he came here, it does not look like muscle mass, looks like an investment in good food.

02-09-2009, 06:13 PM	#1
MedicCook Mila smoked my cigar Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Ryan Location: Schaghticoke, NY Posts: 10,946 Trading: (7)	Re: A-Fraud Tests Positive for Steroid Use At this point I think every player in the last 10-15 years has done PEDs at least once in their career.

02-09-2009, 06:26 PM	#3
MedicCook Mila smoked my cigar Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Ryan Location: Schaghticoke, NY Posts: 10,946 Trading: (7)	Re: A-Fraud Tests Positive for Steroid Use The one name that scares me coming out is Jeter.

02-09-2009, 07:08 PM	#6
Yazzie Have My Own Room Join Date: Nov 2008 First Name: Mark Location: Longhorn Country Posts: 1,674 Trading: (10)	Re: A-Fraud Tests Positive for Steroid Use Texeira played on that Rangers team as well........

02-09-2009, 06:41 PM	#10
MedicCook Mila smoked my cigar Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Ryan Location: Schaghticoke, NY Posts: 10,946 Trading: (7)	Re: A-Fraud Tests Positive for Steroid Use You also have to look at the players that have tested positive the last year have mostly been skinny middle relievers that do not have that roid look. It also takes years of use to get the Bonds look.

02-09-2009, 07:10 PM	#11
MedicCook Mila smoked my cigar Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Ryan Location: Schaghticoke, NY Posts: 10,946 Trading: (7)	Re: A-Fraud Tests Positive for Steroid Use The worst part of this is that sumbag Canseco has been proven right yet again.

02-09-2009, 07:30 PM	#12
gettysburgfreak Patriot Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: The Mitten Posts: 1,442 Trading: (2)	Re: A-Fraud Tests Positive for Steroid Use Here are a few pics of A-Rod and Jeter on July 24, 2004 __________________ Author ofeath, Disease, and Life at War: The Civil War Letters of Surgeon James D. Benton, 111th and 98th New York Infantry Regiments, 1862-1865.

02-09-2009, 07:40 PM	#13
taltos Really, really old Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Paul Location: Saugus, MA Posts: 2,486 Trading: (3)	Re: A-Fraud Tests Positive for Steroid Use Pudge Rodriguez was also on the team with A-Rod for 2 years. He never seemed to get big but he stayed heathier than many other catchers. All this witch hunting could have been avoided if the Commissioner's Office had kept their word and destroyed the records after getting the statistical data. And once again for you Yankee fans, I do expect that several Red Sox players will be on the list if it is ever released including Nomar. __________________ Jimmy, some of its magic, some of its tragic, but I had a good life all the way. He Went to Paris, J. Buffett Last edited by taltos; 02-09-2009 at 07:40 PM. Reason: spelling

02-09-2009, 08:04 PM	#15
MedicCook Mila smoked my cigar Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Ryan Location: Schaghticoke, NY Posts: 10,946 Trading: (7)	Re: A-Fraud Tests Positive for Steroid Use A good way to gauge is who are the players with chronic joint injuries. These guys put on the mass and increase muscles and the tendons & ligaments at the joints fail from the added stress.