CA Emergency Fund - Feedback please - Page 2

01-17-2009, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by massphatness

Love the concept, Fred.

Question: what if one of our brothers or sisters is in need for a reason other than job loss? What if he or she is having a hard time because a spouse is unemployed or there's a child in the house with an illness, etc.? Can they be nominated?

I apologize if I'm muddying the waters.

I am all for this, I like the idea of broader nomination as well.

01-17-2009, 04:10 PM

Absolutely great idea.

I'm on board!!

rhythm11 · 01-17-2009, 04:19 PM

I like the idea and would be a contributor to this fund

shilala · 01-17-2009, 04:20 PM

Our Local calls this our "Benevolence Fund".
It's in place to help brothers who have fallen on hard times, whatever the case may be. Works out real well.
They mostly fund the BF through tshirt/junk sales at our fraternal activities.

CBI_2 · 01-17-2009, 04:23 PM

Absolutely Brilliant! Count me in as a yes vote.

01-17-2009, 04:23 PM

Pretty sure you can count on me as well. I'd like to add that I'd be willing to pay up to say $20.00 for membership toward something like this, one time or perhaps even annually. It could be completely anonymous or those who participate could be identified by some sort of tag, CACA Cigar Asylum Contributors Anonymous. j/k on that tag...

01-17-2009, 04:24 PM

This is a fantastic idea. Here to support this effort anyway I can.

Smokin Gator · 01-17-2009, 04:24 PM

I am definitely in for this in whatever form it takes. I don't know if this is possible, but if when you set up the donate button there could be a choice for a recurring monthly contribution that was automatically deducted that would be great. If that was not possible I will just set a monthly reminder on my calendar.

Great idea!!!

white_s2k · 01-17-2009, 04:30 PM

Great idea Fred, and I like the idea of keeping it anonymous.

Let me know what I can do.

CigarDood · 01-17-2009, 04:34 PM

If you guys want to set something up like this, you should probably consider setting up an actual charitable organization to provide limited liability for those in charge and tax-deductible contributions for donors. PM me if you want to discuss.

macms · 01-17-2009, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CigarDood

If you guys want to set something up like this, you should probably consider setting up an actual charitable organization to provide limited liability for those in charge and tax-deductible contributions for donors. PM me if you want to discuss.

In a more formal environment a charitable organizational LLC would be very appropriate. IMHO, the liability of overseeing this fund would be no greater than the donations for the troops fund. While tax deductible opportunities may result in greater donations, this is not meant as a program of CA or ongoing support to the recipient. The costs to implement a 501 (c) (3) would be prohibitive at this time.

A program like this could be hosted off site by the committee if needed to remove CA from liability issues. Any attorney's on CA could respond via PM to me with there thoughts.

I may be foolish, but I perceive this as a non-formal, grass roots effort by members to help out a guy out if/when needed.

Sailkat · 01-17-2009, 04:54 PM

Great idea! You can count on us to help anyway we can.

14holestogie · 01-17-2009, 05:09 PM

I, too am in.

bobarian · 01-17-2009, 05:15 PM

This is a brilliant idea.

Just point us in the right direction and I am sure the donations will flow as generously as everyone donates for the troops!

01-17-2009, 05:18 PM

BOTL taking care of BOTL, sounds like what we are ALL about. I'm on board.

CigarDood · 01-17-2009, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macms

In a more formal environment a charitable organizational LLC would be very appropriate. IMHO, the liability of overseeing this fund would be no greater than the donations for the troops fund. While tax deductible opportunities may result in greater donations, this is not meant as a program of CA or ongoing support to the recipient. The costs to implement a 501 (c) (3) would be prohibitive at this time.

A program like this could be hosted off site by the committee if needed to remove CA from liability issues. Any attorney's on CA could respond via PM to me with there thoughts.

I may be foolish, but I perceive this as a non-formal, grass roots effort by members to help out a guy out if/when needed.

***THIS POST IS NOT INTENDED TO BE LEGAL ADVICE***

Maybe it's just the risk-averse lawyer in me, but I see a significant amount of risk in running a program like this. I'd rather not discuss the risks, etc. in an open forum, so if you want to discuss it, PM me.

As far as start-up costs are concerned, I could probably help you track down pro bono counsel to get this off the ground.

01-17-2009, 06:03 PM

I'll do what I can to help.

hotreds · 01-17-2009, 06:05 PM

A wonderful idea, but I too, would look before leaping. Thanks, CD for looking out for us! Hopefully we can get this off the ground with the "i's" dotted and "t's" crossed!

smokeyandthebandit05 · 01-17-2009, 08:42 PM

Honestly I would help ANY BOTL in need.

SmokeyJoe · 01-17-2009, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by macms

I like CAMS!

Or how about:

Hardship Emergency Relief Fund H.E.R.F. !

Great idea, Fred. You are a good-hearted man.

01-17-2009, 04:10 PM	#22
tobii3 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: CA Emergency Fund - Feedback please Absolutely great idea. I'm on board!!

01-17-2009, 04:19 PM	#23
rhythm11 Enjoying the Ride Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 100 Trading: (3)	Re: CA Emergency Fund - Feedback please I like the idea and would be a contributor to this fund

01-17-2009, 04:20 PM	#24
shilala Dear Lord, Thank You. Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Posts: 13,721 Trading: (252)	Re: CA Emergency Fund - Feedback please Our Local calls this our "Benevolence Fund". It's in place to help brothers who have fallen on hard times, whatever the case may be. Works out real well. They mostly fund the BF through tshirt/junk sales at our fraternal activities. __________________

01-17-2009, 04:23 PM	#25
CBI_2 Have My Own Room Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Paul Location: In my skin. Posts: 2,066 Trading: (0)	Re: CA Emergency Fund - Feedback please Absolutely Brilliant! Count me in as a yes vote. __________________ "The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants." Albert Camus Cool Cigar Themed Stuff

01-17-2009, 04:23 PM	#26
nozero Guest Posts: n/a	Re: CA Emergency Fund - Feedback please Pretty sure you can count on me as well. I'd like to add that I'd be willing to pay up to say $20.00 for membership toward something like this, one time or perhaps even annually. It could be completely anonymous or those who participate could be identified by some sort of tag, CACA Cigar Asylum Contributors Anonymous. j/k on that tag...

01-17-2009, 04:24 PM	#27
ahc4353 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: CA Emergency Fund - Feedback please This is a fantastic idea. Here to support this effort anyway I can.

01-17-2009, 04:24 PM	#28
Smokin Gator Just plain insane! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: The Swamp Posts: 6,237 Trading: (106)	Re: CA Emergency Fund - Feedback please I am definitely in for this in whatever form it takes. I don't know if this is possible, but if when you set up the donate button there could be a choice for a recurring monthly contribution that was automatically deducted that would be great. If that was not possible I will just set a monthly reminder on my calendar. Great idea!!! __________________ Check out the Cigar Asylum Newbie Sampler Trade

01-17-2009, 04:30 PM	#29
white_s2k The Dude Abides Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Josh Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 1,052 Trading: (20)	Re: CA Emergency Fund - Feedback please Great idea Fred, and I like the idea of keeping it anonymous. Let me know what I can do. __________________ "An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life." – Robert A. Heinlein

01-17-2009, 04:34 PM	#30
CigarDood Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: DC Posts: 311 Trading: (9)	Re: CA Emergency Fund - Feedback please If you guys want to set something up like this, you should probably consider setting up an actual charitable organization to provide limited liability for those in charge and tax-deductible contributions for donors. PM me if you want to discuss.

01-17-2009, 04:54 PM	#32
Sailkat Smooth sailing Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Kat Location: St. Clair Shores, MI Posts: 638 Trading: (5)	Re: CA Emergency Fund - Feedback please Great idea! You can count on us to help anyway we can.

01-17-2009, 05:09 PM	#33
14holestogie Serial banter killer Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tim Location: Clintonville, WI Posts: 4,341 Trading: (52)	Re: CA Emergency Fund - Feedback please I, too am in.

01-17-2009, 05:15 PM	#34
bobarian Cranky Habanophile Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Wine Country Posts: 8,869 Trading: (51)	Re: CA Emergency Fund - Feedback please This is a brilliant idea. Just point us in the right direction and I am sure the donations will flow as generously as everyone donates for the troops!

01-17-2009, 05:18 PM	#35
Darrell Guest Posts: n/a	Re: CA Emergency Fund - Feedback please BOTL taking care of BOTL, sounds like what we are ALL about. I'm on board.

01-17-2009, 06:03 PM	#37
ashmaster Guest Posts: n/a	Re: CA Emergency Fund - Feedback please I'll do what I can to help.

01-17-2009, 06:05 PM	#38
hotreds Ephesians 2:8 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5 miles past "Resume Speed" Posts: 11,665 Trading: (63)	Re: CA Emergency Fund - Feedback please A wonderful idea, but I too, would look before leaping. Thanks, CD for looking out for us! Hopefully we can get this off the ground with the "i's" dotted and "t's" crossed! __________________ God loves you so much, that he made you read this, just to let you know.

01-17-2009, 08:42 PM	#39
smokeyandthebandit05 Feeling at Home Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Rich Location: Branchville Posts: 758 Trading: (1)	Re: CA Emergency Fund - Feedback please Honestly I would help ANY BOTL in need. __________________ MIAMI CANES 9-4 NJ DEVILS 37-21-3