is there a difference?

[Kreth]

I would agree that for the average cigar smoker, it's just a hobby. But, the average cigar smoker is the guy who picks up a couple of White Owls or Dutch Masters on the way to the golf course. I think most of the members here are far from the average cigar enthusiast.
On golfwrx.com (another forum I frequent) there are many members with a full-on club building workshops. They swap out shafts and try new equipment as often as the average golfer buys a new glove. Similarly, there are members here whose collections would put many B&Ms to shame. Hell, I have cigars in my humi that my local shop has never heard of, and I've just scratched the surface of what's out there.
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[Powers]

A big part of cigars is enjoying them with friends. U don't see cigarette smokers traveling to smoke together like BOTLs!

[Blueface]

Originally Posted by UFPowersmoker320

A big part of cigars is enjoying them with friends. U don't see cigarette smokers traveling to smoke together like BOTLs!

While I totally understand what you mean, if you visit any office environment where smoking is not allowed, you see cigarette smokers congregating outside in designated smoking areas.
Some keep to themselves, some socialize.
Just not the same as with a cigar that takes a while to smoke.

[Emjaysmash]

Originally Posted by Blueface

While I totally understand what you mean, if you visit any office environment where smoking is not allowed, you see cigarette smokers congregating outside in designated smoking areas.
Some keep to themselves, some socialize.
Just not the same as with a cigar that takes a while to smoke.

That kinda like girls always going to the bathroom in groups?

...I always wanted to know what they were talking about...

[Powers]

Originally Posted by Emjaysmash

That kinda like girls always going to the bathroom in groups?

...I always wanted to know what they were talking about...

Me to brother! Part of the mystery of women

[macpappy]

Originally Posted by Emjaysmash

That kinda like girls always going to the bathroom in groups?

...I always wanted to know what they were talking about...

I was raised with four sisters. Trust me. You don't want to know...

H2O is one of the chemicals, so is CO2. 4000? Who counted?
The paper burning gets me. The smell, the burning in your eyes, the taste. Like smoldering newspaper. The flash dried tobacco is not the same as the cured tobacco in cigars either.

[shark]

i find it hard to tolerate cigarette smoke as well. it makes my nose run and my eyes burn.

[Blueface]

Originally Posted by BC-Axeman

H2O is one of the chemicals, so is CO2. 4000? Who counted?

Excerpt:
Tobacco companies reporting this information were:

American Tobacco Company
Brown and Williamson
Liggett Group, Inc.
Philip Morris Inc.
R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Company

While these ingredients are approved as additives for foods, they were not tested by burning them, and it is the burning of many of these substances which changes their properties, often for the worse. Over 4000 chemical compounds are created by burning a cigarette, many of which are toxic and/or carcinogenic. Carbon monoxide, nitrogen oxides, hydrogen cyanide and ammonia are all present in cigarette smoke. Forty-three known carcinogens are in mainstream smoke, sidestream smoke, or both.

[T.G]

Originally Posted by Blueface

Excerpt:
Tobacco companies reporting this information were:

American Tobacco Company
Brown and Williamson
Liggett Group, Inc.
Philip Morris Inc.
R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Company

While these ingredients are approved as additives for foods, they were not tested by burning them, and it is the burning of many of these substances which changes their properties, often for the worse. Over 4000 chemical compounds are created by burning a cigarette, many of which are toxic and/or carcinogenic. Carbon monoxide, nitrogen oxides, hydrogen cyanide and ammonia are all present in cigarette smoke. Forty-three known carcinogens are in mainstream smoke, sidestream smoke, or both.

And how many of those known carcinogens are also found in cigar smoke, or any smoke for that matter? Most of them.

All smoke is packed full of various compounds, some is just worse than others.

[Savor the Stick]

Originally Posted by troy d.

This must be a pet peeve of yours. If it will help you, maybe I will. How's the capitals looking?

Originally Posted by SilverFox

Much better, thank you.

Shawn's blood pressure just went down a few degrees.--

Troy great post...Thanks.

I can't stand the smell of cigarettes....but lighting up a cigarette near someone having a cigar is pure rudeness.

At one point I was having around 20 cigars a week...when I didn't have any for a few days; I didn't go through any sort of withdrawal.......try that with a cigarette smoker!

[Cigargal]

I quit cigs in 1989 but i do not mind if someone smokes them around me. I can make more smoke with my cigar anyway

I guess the guy just wanted to have a chat and a smoke-doesn't matter what he's smokin'.

Originally Posted by Cigargal

I quit cigs in 1989 but i do not mind if someone smokes them around me. I can make more smoke with my cigar anyway

I guess the guy just wanted to have a chat and a smoke-doesn't matter what he's smokin'.

I didn't mine talking the fellow, he was nice and all. When he lit up that cigarette though it just really disappointed me. Evidently I must be raising my expectations. But usually I am not like that.

[K Baz]

I will disagree I think that tolerance breeds tolerance.

If I tolerant the cig smoke which I am not a fan of maybe next time he is out he will tolerate my cigar smoke. Or maybe when he and his friends are out the will talk to them before they ask me to stop smoking.

Two last points. A cigarette takes 2 mins easy to deal so its more likey going to take longer to deal with the smoker then the smoke.

Plus I think that the cigar, pipe, cigarette, hookah, etc. need to stick together as much as possible - with what seems like everyone against us we need all the support we can get.

[Adriftpanda]

Originally Posted by K Baz

I will disagree I think that tolerance breeds tolerance.

If I tolerant the cig smoke which I am not a fan of maybe next time he is out he will tolerate my cigar smoke. Or maybe when he and his friends are out the will talk to them before they ask me to stop smoking.

Two last points. A cigarette takes 2 mins easy to deal so its more likey going to take longer to deal with the smoker then the smoke.

Plus I think that the cigar, pipe, cigarette, hookah, etc. need to stick together as much as possible - with what seems like everyone against us we need all the support we can get.

Very well said. Agreed on all points

BBQed meat is loaded with known carcinogens. There are people who will only eat raw vegetables and drink purified water. They will not survive with the cockroaches when the end comes.

[MajorCaptSilly]

Not to change the subject too much but we I've wrestled with cigarette smokers vs. cigar smokers when it comes to rights. In the past, I was agitated by estblishments that allowed cigarette smoking but not cigars/pipes. This made me anti-cigarette. Now ALL smokers are getting hit by the anti-smokers. Now I feel that I have to stand up for all smokers rights in order to try to preserve mine.

MCS

[Powers]

Originally Posted by MajorCaptSilly

Now I feel that I have to stand up for all smokers rights in order to try to preserve mine.

Despite personal preference, realpolitik must be the rule

[poker]

Since I smoke both cigars and cigarettes, neither one bothers me. At least now I have a better understanding of who not to smoke my cigarettes around (unless its on my patio of course. Then you'll just have to deal with it )