USPS opening a domestic package. - Page 3

wrench turner 85 · 10-19-2009, 10:15 AM

thats sucks hard bro

10-19-2009, 10:19 AM

I am good friends with my post master. I will ask him today when I see him. But; lets learn from this an package our goodies extremely well. What coffin's are we speaking of?

10-19-2009, 10:19 AM

That is so messed up. I'll be watching for the end result...

LooseCard · 10-19-2009, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Cigargal

Who handed it to him? Did he bring it from the PO or did a neighbor give it to hime and say "Wriong house-not mine?" Ask him about it.

In a sense, she's right. you could ask the Carrier if he remembers... but either way, you're also letting him know that an investigation is coming, and he'd better jog his memory for them (if not you).

This is a Federal Offense, and it is not taken lightly.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Starz26

I would consider myself lucky if I even got a follow up response.....Just they way gov't works.

I will eat my words if the opposite occurs......

Hope you're hungry.
I know I wouldn't stop until I got an answer.

Damage is one thing. THEFT is completely different.
Those "SmokeTip" cartridges may be a significant clue for them to track against...........

elderboy02 · 10-19-2009, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Wigwam_Motel

I am good friends with my post master. I will ask him today when I see him. But; lets learn from this an package our goodies extremely well. What coffin's are we speaking of?

Opus X

They left the BBMF in the box, but stole the El Escorpion and the Love Story

Blueface · 10-19-2009, 11:35 AM

Curious and not sure if I missed it in the thread, was there any indication at all on the package of what was contained inside?

elderboy02 · 10-19-2009, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Blueface

Curious and not sure if I missed it in the thread, was there any indication at all on the package of what was contained inside?

Nope. Just a good old Priority Mail box.

DPD6030 · 10-19-2009, 11:41 AM

Sorry to hear about this Dan. I can tell you I worked with the postal police on one case where I used to work in a Twp. They came in and told us what they were doing and where the mail lady would be at. They had a tracking device in one of her letters. Bait, hook, line and sinker. Stopped her right in front of our PD. She had a warrant as well. Needless to say she is no longer a USPS employee. She actually fled the country to avoid prosecution! She came back and cuffs were on her at the airport.

The postal police rule btw. They have all kinds of cool items.

Poe · 10-19-2009, 11:44 AM

Wow, thats crazy!

kaisersozei · 10-19-2009, 12:32 PM

This whole thing sounds bizzare, yet very interesting... I'm sorry for the hassle & for you being victimized, Dan

Blueface · 10-19-2009, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by elderboy02

Nope. Just a good old Priority Mail box.

How on this Earth could they have known what was inside?
That would mean these guys are opening up packages randomly?
What a way to risk losing a job!
Sure this isn't some type of joke?
Come on, whoever did this to the poor guy, come clean now, own up to it, all will be forgiven.

tsolomon · 10-19-2009, 01:05 PM

Interesting.

Priority Mail, which is often used for shipping tobacco, is sealed against inspection. Therefore a federal search warrant or consent would be needed to open these packages. Unless the mailer voluntarily discloses that a package contains nonmailable matter, generally the only way to determine whether it contains unlawful contents is to open the package.

http://www.usps.com/communications/n...ibbons0424.htm

bvilchez · 10-19-2009, 03:23 PM

Very interesting read on the inspection needed for Priority mail.
Posted via Mobile Device

elderboy02 · 10-19-2009, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bvilchez

Very interesting read on the inspection needed for Priority mail.
Posted via Mobile Device

Indeed it is.

06-14-2010, 01:01 PM

What became of this?

Gophernut · 06-14-2010, 01:53 PM

I'm interested to find out too!

dyieldin · 06-14-2010, 01:55 PM

Really, you can not leave us hanging on this!

shilala · 06-14-2010, 02:11 PM

Stuff gets mashed quite a bit.
The only thing I can figure is that the box got mashed on the belt and the stuff spilled out. Whoever recovered the box may have found the coffin and smoking tips beneath the belt and just thought it obvious they went together.
Normally they'll bag the box. Printed on the bag is the "We screwed up your stuff" message. The employee may have just been lazy and didn't bother bagging.
To assume someone "stole" two out of three coffins just doesn't make any sense at all, for about a million reasons.

In any event, it totally sucks. I used to insure everything, but I stopped. I spent so much in insurance that I could easily pay for a number of lost packages. Occasionally I do use it though, if something is exceptionally valuable and I don't want to take the hit if it gets destroyed or lost.
I hope it all works out for you guys!!!

MichaelJ · 06-14-2010, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shilala

Stuff gets mashed quite a bit.
The only thing I can figure is that the box got mashed on the belt and the stuff spilled out. Whoever recovered the box may have found the coffin and smoking tips beneath the belt and just thought it obvious they went together.
Normally they'll bag the box. Printed on the bag is the "We screwed up your stuff" message. The employee may have just been lazy and didn't bother bagging.

My thoughts exactly. I work at UPS in the mornings as a second job and I can see how this can/does happen. Not sure if the potential is there with USPS, but would assume so. Hope this turned out ok.

markem · 06-14-2010, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shilala

Stuff gets mashed quite a bit.
The only thing I can figure is that the box got mashed on the belt and the stuff spilled out. Whoever recovered the box may have found the coffin and smoking tips beneath the belt and just thought it obvious they went together.
Normally they'll bag the box. Printed on the bag is the "We screwed up your stuff" message. The employee may have just been lazy and didn't bother bagging.
To assume someone "stole" two out of three coffins just doesn't make any sense at all, for about a million reasons.

I agree completely. My advice is to make sure that there are no air spaces in your package. My thinking is that if you reinforce, especially at the corners, then the package has a better chance. None of my packages have collapsed in the machinery, but it is only a matter of time, given how much I ship. Still, making sure that there are no spaces or soft spots seems like a good plan, especially since they thinned the material on the priority boxes to reduce costs.

10-19-2009, 10:15 AM	#41
wrench turner 85 I'm the Ocho Cinco! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Hickory, NC Posts: 276 Trading: (0)	Re: USPS opening a domestic package. thats sucks hard bro __________________ dam you party liquor

10-19-2009, 10:19 AM	#42
Wigwam_Motel Guest Posts: n/a	Re: USPS opening a domestic package. I am good friends with my post master. I will ask him today when I see him. But; lets learn from this an package our goodies extremely well. What coffin's are we speaking of?

10-19-2009, 10:19 AM	#43
nozero Guest Posts: n/a	Re: USPS opening a domestic package. That is so messed up. I'll be watching for the end result...

10-19-2009, 11:35 AM	#46
Blueface Gramps 4x's Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Horatio Seymore Hiny Location: Boca Raton - North of La Habana Posts: 8,774 Trading: (8)	Re: USPS opening a domestic package. Curious and not sure if I missed it in the thread, was there any indication at all on the package of what was contained inside? __________________ Little known fact: I am a former member of the Village People - The Indian

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DPD6030 Shepard of the sheeple Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Andrew Location: The Mitten Posts: 7,166 Trading: (151)	Re: USPS opening a domestic package. Sorry to hear about this Dan. I can tell you I worked with the postal police on one case where I used to work in a Twp. They came in and told us what they were doing and where the mail lady would be at. They had a tracking device in one of her letters. Bait, hook, line and sinker. Stopped her right in front of our PD. She had a warrant as well. Needless to say she is no longer a USPS employee. She actually fled the country to avoid prosecution! She came back and cuffs were on her at the airport. The postal police rule btw. They have all kinds of cool items.

10-19-2009, 11:44 AM	#49
Poe Still Watching My Back Join Date: Jun 2009 First Name: David Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 108 Trading: (1)	Re: USPS opening a domestic package. Wow, thats crazy!

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kaisersozei The Homebrew Hammer Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Gerard Location: Midlothian, VA Posts: 3,183 Trading: (40)	Re: USPS opening a domestic package. This whole thing sounds bizzare, yet very interesting... I'm sorry for the hassle & for you being victimized, Dan __________________

10-19-2009, 01:05 PM	#52
tsolomon Have My Own Room Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: The Villages, FL Posts: 1,247 Trading: (31)	Re: USPS opening a domestic package. Interesting. Priority Mail, which is often used for shipping tobacco, is sealed against inspection. Therefore a federal search warrant or consent would be needed to open these packages. Unless the mailer voluntarily discloses that a package contains nonmailable matter, generally the only way to determine whether it contains unlawful contents is to open the package. http://www.usps.com/communications/n...ibbons0424.htm

10-19-2009, 03:23 PM	#53
bvilchez En búsqueda..... Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Bolivar aka Jay Location: Back in SoCal Posts: 3,202 Trading: (76)	Re: USPS opening a domestic package. Very interesting read on the inspection needed for Priority mail. Posted via Mobile Device

06-14-2010, 01:01 PM	#55
Mindflux Guest Posts: n/a	Re: USPS opening a domestic package. What became of this?

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Gophernut Have My Own Room Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Steve Location: Hudson, WI Posts: 1,661 Trading: (15)	Re: USPS opening a domestic package. I'm interested to find out too!

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dyieldin Still Watching My Back Join Date: Sep 2009 First Name: Dave Location: S. Phoenix AZ Posts: 235 Trading: (0)	Re: USPS opening a domestic package. Really, you can not leave us hanging on this!

06-14-2010, 02:11 PM	#58
shilala Dear Lord, Thank You. Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Posts: 13,721 Trading: (252)	Re: USPS opening a domestic package. Stuff gets mashed quite a bit. The only thing I can figure is that the box got mashed on the belt and the stuff spilled out. Whoever recovered the box may have found the coffin and smoking tips beneath the belt and just thought it obvious they went together. Normally they'll bag the box. Printed on the bag is the "We screwed up your stuff" message. The employee may have just been lazy and didn't bother bagging. To assume someone "stole" two out of three coffins just doesn't make any sense at all, for about a million reasons. In any event, it totally sucks. I used to insure everything, but I stopped. I spent so much in insurance that I could easily pay for a number of lost packages. Occasionally I do use it though, if something is exceptionally valuable and I don't want to take the hit if it gets destroyed or lost. I hope it all works out for you guys!!! __________________