How long before the taxes would hit us?

TripleF · 11-25-2008, 07:25 AM

I just read this article on the SCHIP Bill and how it more than likely will pass with the new president elect starting in Jan.

Article on SCHIP tax

My question is, assuming this Horse Poop passes, how long before we would see it applied in out daily purchaes? Wouldn't there be a mad rush on cigar purchases before it actually was applied to the retailers?

It blows me away that we are allowing ourselves to be taxed as was happening in Europe before we left over 200 years ago.

BengalMan · 11-25-2008, 08:35 AM

The thing about the SCHIP is it's been changed around so many times, no one really know how it will end up until the final bill actually passes. The cigar industry has fought hard and will continue to fight hard to get the SCHIP as low as possible. They have are achieved the lowering of the initial tax and removing certain things from the bill. My thoughts, sit back, enjoy a cigar and see how things work out. Even when it does pass, there will be a lot that will have to be done before it goes into effect.

Bax · 11-25-2008, 08:39 AM

Soon... stock up now!!!!!

11-25-2008, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by TripleF

I just read this article on the SCHIP Bill and how it more than likely will pass with the new president elect starting in Jan.

Article on SCHIP tax

My question is, assuming this Horse Poop passes, how long before we would see it applied in out daily purchaes? Wouldn't there be a mad rush on cigar purchases before it actually was applied to the retailers?

It blows me away that we are allowing ourselves to be taxed as was happening in Europe before we left over 200 years ago.

By the title of the thread... I thought this topic was about Obama letting the Bush tax cuts expire. TripleF i agree with you that the USA is becoming Europe. Our founding fathers would vomit if they knew what this country has become.

11-25-2008, 09:03 AM

TripleF, did you notice that you and I are always on the same threads and usually have the same opinion?

Da Klugs · 11-25-2008, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone

TripleF, did you notice that you and I are always on the same threads and usually have the same opinion?

(J/K- really)

Government needs more money. Just wish they would come out and say.. everyone needs to pay x% more vs the selective increases targeted at social reform or "sin".

TripleF · 11-25-2008, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone

TripleF, did you notice that you and I are always on the same threads and usually have the same opinion?

Yes sir. I have noticed. Proud to hang with you my friend.

Clampdown · 11-25-2008, 09:31 AM

Never for me.

TripleF · 11-25-2008, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Da Klugs

(J/K- really)

Government needs more money. Just wish they would come out and say.. everyone needs to pay x% more vs the selective increases targeted at social reform or "sin".

Funny pic Dave.........very funny. Wanna snuggle?

mosesbotbol · 11-25-2008, 09:34 AM

Sin taxes are such a crock.

When has smoking or drinking become a sin? They certainly weren't went Jesus was alive... Certainly they can be abused, but what can't? I know.... just banter talk over here.

Only the sages may know how SCHIP will go through Congress.

Da Klugs · 11-25-2008, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by TripleF

Funny pic Dave.........very funny. Wanna snuggle?

Yes, with my former money paid in taxes... do you have it? If so, see pic above.

Slightly off the specific topic but everyone should be prepared to pay more taxes for virtually everything. Every government entity; local, state, federal and their offspring programs will be looking for cash. If you have any, you are the target.

newcigarz · 11-25-2008, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Da Klugs

Slightly off the specific topic but everyone should be prepared to pay more taxes for virtually everything. Every government entity; local, state, federal and their offspring programs will be looking for cash.

Sounds like a good reason for more offshore purchases.

Da Klugs · 11-25-2008, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by newcigarz

Sounds like a good reason for more offshore purchases.

In some areas... we live in the best of times.

neoflex · 11-25-2008, 08:40 PM

I hope this bill does not end up being as bad as it sounds for us cigar smokers. It probably will but I am hoping it does not make it so it's tough to enjoy the hobby. Otherwise I may have to downgrade back down to a 25 count humi.

CBI_2 · 11-25-2008, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Da Klugs

Yes, with my former money paid in taxes... do you have it? If so, see pic above.

Slightly off the specific topic but everyone should be prepared to pay more taxes for virtually everything. Every government entity; local, state, federal and their offspring programs will be looking for cash. If you have any, you are the target.

The price of socialism. Anyone that advances or achieves is a target for theft by government.

Definition of socialism: Equality of misery or equality of mediocrity.

hotreds · 11-25-2008, 09:13 PM

Do not get me started!

groogs · 11-26-2008, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by hotreds

Do not get me started!

I have been stocking up for the past few months, just in case the worst happens.

11-25-2008, 07:25 AM	#1
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11-25-2008, 08:35 AM	#2
BengalMan Have My Own Room Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Ian Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 1,280 Trading: (10)	Re: How long before the taxes would hit us? The thing about the SCHIP is it's been changed around so many times, no one really know how it will end up until the final bill actually passes. The cigar industry has fought hard and will continue to fight hard to get the SCHIP as low as possible. They have are achieved the lowering of the initial tax and removing certain things from the bill. My thoughts, sit back, enjoy a cigar and see how things work out. Even when it does pass, there will be a lot that will have to be done before it goes into effect.

11-25-2008, 08:39 AM	#3
Bax C A P S...CAPS CAPS CAPS! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tim Location: Ringgold,GA Posts: 2,173 Trading: (70)	Re: How long before the taxes would hit us? Soon... stock up now!!!!! __________________ I'm the most interesting man in the world... but only if you find stupid stuff really interesting.

11-25-2008, 09:03 AM	#5
Tombstone Guest Posts: n/a	Re: How long before the taxes would hit us? TripleF, did you notice that you and I are always on the same threads and usually have the same opinion?

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Clampdown I Cut Like a Buffalo Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Brian Location: Noneya Posts: 868 Trading: (12)	Re: How long before the taxes would hit us? Never for me.

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mosesbotbol That's a Corgi Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Moses Location: Boston Posts: 6,171 Trading: (6)	Re: How long before the taxes would hit us? Sin taxes are such a crock. When has smoking or drinking become a sin? They certainly weren't went Jesus was alive... Certainly they can be abused, but what can't? I know.... just banter talk over here. Only the sages may know how SCHIP will go through Congress. __________________ Port Wine & Claret \| British Cars \| Welsh Corgi's

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neoflex I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Nov 2008 First Name: John Location: Monroe, NC Posts: 2,765 Trading: (32)	Re: How long before the taxes would hit us? I hope this bill does not end up being as bad as it sounds for us cigar smokers. It probably will but I am hoping it does not make it so it's tough to enjoy the hobby. Otherwise I may have to downgrade back down to a 25 count humi.

11-25-2008, 09:13 PM	#16
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