NHL '09 - '10 Thread

[yourchoice]

Originally Posted by Eleven

I got REAL tired of hearing 'flyers should have been called on that'.

Seems the refs did everything in their power to give this game to the flyers, and it worked.

Officiating in these finals is horrible. virtually every hawk gets an elbow in the face on contact. Pronger should have been called on the cross check BEFORE buff slashed the stick.

It goes on and on.

I got REAL tired of hearing that too...being it was coming from an ex-Blackhawk. All I can say to your entire post is and Waaaaaaah!

There were several non-calls against the Flyers last night. Of course, I realize I am looking through orange colored glasses, where Blackhawk fans are looking through red ones. I know it's hard, especially this time of year, but if it's possible to watch the series being neutral (and without the sound and Olczyk's commentary) I believe it's been pretty fair.

Did anyone honestly think Carcillo's hit should have been a penalty for charging? The puck was right there and he made a play. IMHO, if you did, the red glasses were too tinted. Even Olczyk said he didn't think it was charging (of course he still try to say there should have been a slashing penalty, but...whatever). That being said, I'm not complaining about the call. I'm just using it as an example of the other side of the coin. Non-calls both ways...bad calls both ways.

Personally, I love it! And I think the Flyers do too. Watching Byfugly (like that nic ) and many of his teammates whine to the refs is great for the Flyers. Hopefully it's taking them out of their game a little bit. The fact that the fans are whining too....that's just icing on the cake!

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by Ahbroody

The Hawks are lucky to be up 2-1.

Absolutely, Philly has outplayed them in for much of the series. But only the final scores matter.

Originally Posted by Ahbroody

The Hossa Curse may still live to kill another team

Wanna bet?

Originally Posted by Eleven

Pronger should have been called on the cross check BEFORE buff slashed the stick.

Call me a wah-wah'er too, Joel, but absolutely. Pronger should have been called.

Hawks need to up the stakes in Game 4, so I can watch them in person skating the Cup after Game 5.

[yourchoice]

Originally Posted by icehog3

Call me a wah-wah'er too, Joel, but absolutely. Pronger should have been called.

No doubt they *could* have called a penalty. If they did, I don't think Pronger would have *****ed about it. I wouldn't have. But they *could* have also called a high stick on Toews later in the game. Briere didn't let it effect him. Or did that non-call not count?

*where I say could, some may say should. Not every infraction on the ice is called a penalty though.

[Ahbroody]

Originally Posted by icehog3

Wanna bet?

Ass!
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[icehog3]

Originally Posted by Ahbroody

Ass!
Hell no I dont want to bet you. I seem to nail my predictions as long as I dont bet. So be scared.

You payment is all boxed up just want address confirmation.

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[Ahbroody]

Originally Posted by icehog3

Thanks Mike....Now bet me, I need all the Karma I can get!!

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[icehog3]

Originally Posted by Ahbroody

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airborn hope you enjoy.

It was fun, Mike...thanks for being a good sport.

[Gophernut]

Very entertaining game. Listening to the 3rd period on XM on the way home from work last night, the Chicago announcer kept apologizing for being a homer, but said, "I don't want to sound like a homer, but if I see something I am going to call it." He must have said this or something similar to it every time Pronger was on the ice. Pronger must have gotten away with a cross-check, slash, interference, and holding about 10 times in the 3rd period alone according to the Chicago announcer. Now reading what those who watched it say, he might not have been exaggerating.

[gpugliese]

Originally Posted by yourchoice

Did anyone honestly think Carcillo's hit should have been a penalty for charging? The puck was right there and he made a play. IMHO, if you did, the red glasses were too tinted. Even Olczyk said he didn't think it was charging (of course he still try to say there should have been a slashing penalty, but...whatever). That being said, I'm not complaining about the call. I'm just using it as an example of the other side of the coin. Non-calls both ways...bad calls both ways.

I only remember seeing one replay of the hit, but I want to say he left his feet, hence the charging call.

The refs have been quite laid back on penalties but we do have to remember it's A) the playoffs and B) the finals. Playoff hockey, especially SCF hockey, is called differently than the regular season. The little things, slashes, picks and interference are easier to get away with - Pronger has almost perfected this - in the playoffs when the refs swallow their whistles.

There have been missed calls for both sides, but it's more noticeable with the Flyers, who play more of a clutch and grab obstruction style ("old time hockey") than the Hawks.

[yourchoice]

Originally Posted by gpugliese

I only remember seeing one replay of the hit, but I want to say he left his feet, hence the charging call.

The refs have been quite laid back on penalties but we do have to remember it's A) the playoffs and B) the finals. Playoff hockey, especially SCF hockey, is called differently than the regular season. The little things, slashes, picks and interference are easier to get away with - Pronger has almost perfected this - in the playoffs when the refs swallow their whistles.

There have been missed calls for both sides, but it's more noticeable with the Flyers, who play more of a clutch and grab obstruction style ("old time hockey") than the Hawks.

I agree with just about everything you said. As for the last statement, it kind of goes back to the East vs. West styles of play, since, IMHO, there's generally a difference between the Conferences.

[Eleven]

Originally Posted by gpugliese

There have been missed calls for both sides, but it's more noticeable with the Flyers, who play more of a clutch and grab obstruction style ("old time hockey") than the Hawks.

The new rules are supposed to prevent this, but just like the Red Wings, the flyers are now getting away with it. Its not whining, its a fact. They get away with it.

Old time hockey is not glamorous or something to reminisce about, it was embarrassing. The broad street bullies are one of the reasons hockey to this day is not taken seriously. People who know nothing about the game see Slapshot and hear people talking about the 'good ol days' and think that is what hockey is like today.

The flyers *still* have that mindset and now the officials are letting them get away with it.

I am not a Hawks homer, I won't defend point by point every infraction, but there is clearly a double standard when it comes to what each team is allowed to get away with, and its just hurting the game of hockey.