B & M vs. Internet?

[captain53]

I don't mind one bit telling them their prices are too high, if they don't like it then maybe they should lower them. It is a business and I am a customer just that simple.

[md4958]

Originally Posted by captain53

I don't mind one bit telling them their prices are too high, if they don't like it then maybe they should lower them. It is a business and I am a customer just that simple.

Thats easier said than done.

Most of the difference is the state and local taxes that these B&Ms have to pay. Internet based companies with the best pricing are usually found in tobacco tax friendly states.

The customer isnt always right. Somethings are better left unsaid

[captain53]

Originally Posted by md4958

Thats easier said than done.

Most of the difference is the state and local taxes that these B&Ms have to pay. Internet based companies with the best pricing are usually found in tobacco tax friendly states.

The customer isnt always right. Somethings are better left unsaid

Success in Business is largely related to location so if someone chooses to open in an overtaxed location then they made a stupid business decision. And that is BS about most of the difference being taxes, I am in a relatively low cigar tax state yet cigars i buy are more than double (sometimes 4 times higher) than I can buy for online.

[SeanGAR]

Originally Posted by captain53

Success in Business is largely related to location so if someone chooses to open in an overtaxed location then they made a stupid business decision. And that is BS about most of the difference being taxes, I am in a relatively low cigar tax state yet cigars i buy are more than double (sometimes 4 times higher) than I can buy for online.

So you think there should be no cigar shops in states with high cigar/sale taxes?

That's one opinion.

The price difference between B&M/Online is due to sales volume, overhead and taxes. It is rare that I have seen cigar prices in a B&M that I've thought were ridiculous. Look for rare fuentes online and you'll find ridiculous prices pretty quick.

A B&M will never get the in store sales volume of an online retailer.

The overhead/gross sales will be higher in a B&M as well.

Since B&Ms don't have the sales volume, they don't get the best price.

Most cigar shop owners I know are in the business because they love cigars. You don't respect that enough to want to spend money there, I understand, but not everybody shares your opinion. Save a few bucks online ... when your local cigar shops disappear, don't be surprised.

[captain53]

Originally Posted by SeanGAR

So you think there should be no cigar shops in states with high cigar/sale taxes?

That's one opinion.

The price difference between B&M/Online is due to sales volume, overhead and taxes. It is rare that I have seen cigar prices in a B&M that I've thought were ridiculous. Look for rare fuentes online and you'll find ridiculous prices pretty quick.

A B&M will never get the in store sales volume of an online retailer.

The overhead/gross sales will be higher in a B&M as well.

Since B&Ms don't have the sales volume, they don't get the best price.

Most cigar shop owners I know are in the business because they love cigars. You don't respect that enough to want to spend money there, I understand, but not everybody shares your opinion. Save a few bucks online ... when your local cigar shops disappear, don't be surprised.

I certainly respect your thoughts and preferences but believe me I want be surprised nor will I be concerned. I really could care less about why they are higher it is just the fact I do not believe in paying extra for things and it is far more than a few bucks. I call double prices rediculous, perhaps you have a higher threshold.

As to no stores in states with high taxes - makes good business sense but if they are satisfied with their revenue go for it.

Look for rare Fuentes at most B&M's and you will seldom find them.

We just have a different idea about the value of our money and where to best use it. Cigars are a hobby for me and I have close to 1000 of them at any given time which means $3-6 vs $8-20 will buy a lot of really good scotch. For those who buy a dozen or so cigars a year the B&M is probably the best way to buy them.

[tedrodgerscpa]

+1 more for B&M support.

A lot of B&Ms locally have started serving alcoholic drinks, which contributes further to improving their bottom line.

Since I don't drink, I always purchase a cigar when I'm there for more than a few minutes. Most times it's a cigar that I wouldn't purchase online. But, as has been said many times before... It's hard to sit and smoke a cigar in an "internet".