LT arrested for rape

Originally Posted by pnoon

So what is YOUR definition of a child? At what age are they no longer a child? Is anyone who has "intense sexual interest and urges" towards high school students a pedophile?

To the best of my knowledge, pedophilia is a term reserved for interest and/or desires for pre-pubescent children.

In my opinion you're a child until you're 18, at that point you're allowed to make decisions for yourself, move away from your folks, vote, etc.

Yes, if you have sexual urges towards children, you're a pedophile, IMO. Of course YMMV.

Well, the DSM classifies it as I mentioned it. I'm not sure who the authority is for deciding the definition for all to follow. I know Law Enforcement uses it kind of loosely to define pretty much anyone convicted of a sex crime with minors.

[pnoon]

Originally Posted by Darrell

I know Law Enforcement uses it kind of loosely to define pretty much anyone convicted of a sex crime with minors.

Ya learn sumthin new every day.

Originally Posted by Darrell

In my opinion you're a child until you're 18, at that point you're allowed to make decisions for yourself, move away from your folks, vote, etc.

Yes, if you have sexual urges towards children, you're a pedophile, IMO. Of course YMMV.

Well, the DSM classifies it as I mentioned it. I'm not sure who the authority is for deciding the definition for all to follow. I know Law Enforcement uses it kind of loosely to define pretty much anyone convicted of a sex crime with minors.

While that may be your definition, its not the legal definition which varies from state to state. The age of consent in some
southern states is shocking to say the least

[SmokeyJoe]

Originally Posted by Resipsa

While that may be your definition, its not the legal definition which varies from state to state. The age of consent in some
southern states is shocking to say the least

Gotta say... I didn't see THIS debate coming...

Regardless, my already low opinion of LT sinks to new levels. Some folks seem bound and determined to destroy themselves no matter how many opportunities they get to rehabilitate themselves. Truly sad.

Originally Posted by SmokeyJoe

Gotta say... I didn't see THIS debate coming...

Regardless, my already low opinion of LT sinks to new levels. Some folks seem bound and determined to destroy themselves no matter how many opportunities they get to rehabilitate themselves. Truly sad.

He did it to himself Joe, don't feel bad for him.

[SmokeyJoe]

Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox

He did it to himself Joe, don't feel bad for him.

I know... my deepest sadness is for this girl. Fifteen, being pimped out, beaten... her life is already tragic.

Originally Posted by SmokeyJoe

I know... my deepest sadness is for this girl. Fifteen, being pimped out, beaten... her life is already tragic.

Same here.

Hello LT, Im chris hanson of Dateline, what were you doing here?

Originally Posted by Resipsa

While that may be your definition, its not the legal definition which varies from state to state. The age of consent in some
southern states is shocking to say the least

I'm curious, Vic. What are some examples? It seems really not good to allow the age of consent to be under 18.

[AD720]

Originally Posted by Darrell

I'm curious, Vic. What are some examples? It seems really not good to allow the age of consent to be under 18.

<devil's advocate post>
I'm a senior in high school dating a sophomore in high school. On May 23rd I turn 18, my girlfriend is still 16. Am I good to go on May 22nd and a pedophile on May 23rd?

Originally Posted by AD720

<devil's advocate post>
I'm a senior in high school dating a sophomore in high school. On May 23rd I turn 18, my girlfriend is still 16. Am I good to go on May 22nd and a pedophile on May 23rd?

Certain exemptions should be made for common sense sake, this is one of them.

However if you're 44 trolling the school yard for 16 yr olds, that's another story.

[AD720]

Originally Posted by Darrell

Certain exemptions should be made for common sense sake, this is one of them.

Unfortunately when it comes to the law there can not be any room left for exemptions based on common sense, no gray areas. How about when that 18 year dude old turns 20 or 21 and the girl is still shy of her 18th? There are so many what ifs, it's got to be a clear line.

Originally Posted by Darrell

However if you're 44 trolling the school yard for 16 yr olds, that's another story.

Agreed that it's gross, but if you are in a state in which the age of consent is 16 it is legal. Whether are not her parents go for it is another story.

[AD720]

From the wiki...for informational purposes.

This thread did take an interesting turn.

[hotreds]

Originally Posted by Darrell

Certain exemptions should be made for common sense sake, this is one of them.

However if you're 44 trolling the school yard for 16 yr olds, that's another story.

Hmmm.... how about 13 year olds?

[Tenor CS]

Originally Posted by AD720

I'm a senior in high school dating a sophomore in high school. On May 23rd I turn 18, my girlfriend is still 16. Am I good to go on May 22nd and a pedophile on May 23rd?

Varies from state to state, but FL has something called a "Romeo and Juliet" law that protects you in this very situation.

When I was a teacher, we had to know all about consent laws.

If I remember correctly, AOC in FL is 16, but the older person cannot be older than 25, and cannot be an authority figure in the younger's life. Some examples given in our ethics class of "authority figure" included teacher, pastor/priest, police officer, parole officer, etc.

[kaisersozei]

Originally Posted by Darrell

I'm curious, Vic. What are some examples? It seems really not good to allow the age of consent to be under 18.

The age of consent throughout a good portion of the US east of the Mississippi is 16. VA, TN & FL are holdouts at 18.

It's 14 or 15 through much of Europe.

[Starscream]

Originally Posted by Resipsa

While that may be your definition, its not the legal definition which varies from state to state. The age of consent in some
southern states is shocking to say the least

Easy there, Vic. It's not just the South. We're not all the stereotypical sheep farmers that films portray us as.

I'm not shocked at all, but I no longer have any respect for this man if all that is said is true.
Bam Bam Bigelow should've beat the SH!T out of LT when he had the chance.
RIP Bam Bam.

Originally Posted by andysutherland

Easy there, Vic. It's not just the South. We're not all the stereotypical sheep farmers that films portray us as.

I'm not shocked at all, but I no longer have any respect for this man if all that is said is true.
Bam Bam Bigelow should've beat the SH!T out of LT when he had the chance.
RIP Bam Bam.

Not my intentions Andy, sorry probably a poor choice of words on my part. Apologies.

[Starscream]

Originally Posted by Resipsa

Not my intentions Andy, sorry probably a poor choice of words on my part. Apologies.

No offense, Vic. I was just razzing you a bit.