Kids Sent Home For Wearing American Flag

Originally Posted by akumushi

Epic fail. Did the kids mean disrespect? To be honest yes, probably. Unless that's the way they dress every day they clearly meant to antangonize the hispanics at their school, and if anything, the admin tried to make them change to avoid a ugly racial situation. But this is America and you should be able to wear a patriotic shirt at school, even if your intention is race baiting. Go ahead and wear your patriot gear on Cinco de Mayo, but don't come crying to me when some cholo beats you up for the disrespect.

No cholo is owed the least bit of respect just because it's May 5th. No amount of respect demanded is worth violence returned if that respect is not given. In fact the act of demanding respect for foreign holidays is itself condemnable.

[AD720]

Originally Posted by BC-Axeman

No cholo is owed the least bit of respect just because it's May 5th. No amount of respect demanded is worth violence returned if that respect is not given. In fact the act of demanding respect for foreign holidays is itself condemnable.

Cinco de Mayo is not really a foreign holiday per say. It's more like St. Patrick's day or Columbus day. FYI.

Originally Posted by AD720

Cinco de Mayo is not really a foreign holiday per say. It's more like St. Patrick's day or Columbus day. FYI.

So the kids would be sent home for wearing a flag on St.Pat's day? Or not wearing green? May 5th in much less a holiday than St. Pat's. It is mostly a reason for college kids to drink more and for protesters to march against America. No one even knew about it more than 25 years ago.

[AD720]

Originally Posted by BC-Axeman

So the kids would be sent home for wearing a flag on St.Pat's day? Or not wearing green? May 5th in much less a holiday than St. Pat's. It is mostly a reason for college kids to drink more and for protesters to march against America. No one even knew about it more than 25 years ago.

Sorry I missed this Lance...I'm not really getting involved in the argument on whether or not the kids should have gotten sent home. I was just making the point that Cinco de Mayo is not a "Mexican" holiday exactly. It's holiday where Americans of Mexican decent celebrate their heritage (and college kids get drunk, but they don't really need an excuse for that ) and has become, much like St. Patricks day, an excuse for everyone to get blitzed.

[TonySmith]

Originally Posted by AD720

Sorry I missed this Lance...I'm not really getting involved in the argument on whether or not the kids should have gotten sent home. I was just making the point that Cinco de Mayo is not a "Mexican" holiday exactly. It's holiday where Americans of Mexican decent celebrate their heritage (and college kids get drunk, but they don't really need an excuse for that ) and has become, much like St. Patricks day, an excuse for everyone to get blitzed.

Wrong..sorry. Cinco de Mayo celebrates that the Mexican army defeated the French army led by General Mavimilian at Puebla, Puebla, Mexico. Yes it is a holiday where people get drunk, but it is a "Mexican" event. I also don't think it's respectful to wear the American flag as clothing

/Thread hijack off

[AD720]

Originally Posted by TonySmith

Wrong..sorry. Cinco de Mayo celebrates that the Mexican army defeated the French army led by General Mavimilian at Puebla, Puebla, Mexico. Yes it is a holiday where people get drunk, but it is a "Mexican" event. I also don't think it's respectful to wear the American flag as clothing

/Thread hijack off

Nice attitude. How about "I disagree, here's why"?

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In the United States Cinco de Mayo has taken on a significance beyond that in Mexico.[16][18][19][20] The date is perhaps best recognized in the United States as a date to celebrate the culture and experiences of Americans of Mexican ancestry, much as St. Patrick's Day, Oktoberfest, and the Chinese New Year are used to celebrate those of Irish, German, and Chinese ancestry respectively. Similar to those holidays, Cinco de Mayo is observed by many Americans regardless of ethnic origin. Celebrations tend to draw both from traditional Mexican symbols, such as the Virgen de Guadalupe, and from prominent figures of Mexican descent in the United States, including César Chávez.[21] To celebrate, many display Cinco de Mayo banners while school districts hold special events to educate pupils about its historical significance. Special events and celebrations highlight Mexican culture, especially in its music and regional dancing. Examples include baile folklórico and mariachi demonstrations held annually at the Plaza del Pueblo de Los Angeles, near Olvera Street. Commercial interests in the United States have capitalized on the celebration, advertising Mexican products and services, with an emphasis on beverages,[22] foods, and music.[23][24]

Originally Posted by TonySmith

I also don't think it's respectful to wear the American flag as clothing.

I agree partially.

However, these kids were not wearing the American flag as clothing. One kid had it on his shirt and the other had a bandanna. I don't see an issue with that, if they had defaced or altered the flag to make it a piece of clothing that would be unacceptable, but they didn't.

[T.G]

Originally Posted by Darrell

I agree partially.

However, these kids were not wearing the American flag as clothing. One kid had it on his shirt and the other had a bandanna. I don't see an issue with that, if they had defaced or altered the flag to make it a piece of clothing that would be unacceptable, but they didn't.

What if they made a cap out of a US Flag and wore it backwards? Still no?

[akumushi]

Originally Posted by AD720

Cinco de Mayo is not really a foreign holiday per say. It's more like St. Patrick's day or Columbus day. FYI.

Yeah, let's say I show up on St Patties day wearing a British flag bandana and shirt. Do I have the right? Yes. Is it kind of a punk thing to do? Yes. I don't think the principal had the right to do what they did, but a lot of schools in California are powder kegs of racial tension. I saw plenty of fights erupt between whites and hispanics from Junior High all the way to High school. I can see where the school admin were coming from even if they were misguided, if they were trying to avoid a fight.