Joe Cigar Selling Seconds?

[quantim0]

I picked up one of their deals a while back. Out of the 3 sticks I've smoked from it, 2 have been totally plugged and unsmokable. That's the same number of plugged sticks that I've had total from all the other one's I've had. They sat in my humidor for 3 weeks before I tried the first one, so they should have had time to settle down from shipping. It makes me hesitant to order from them again.

Originally Posted by quantim0

I picked up one of their deals a while back. Out of the 3 sticks I've smoked from it, 2 have been totally plugged and unsmokable. That's the same number of plugged sticks that I've had total from all the other one's I've had. They sat in my humidor for 3 weeks before I tried the first one, so they should have had time to settle down from shipping. It makes me hesitant to order from them again.

CI sticks are very wet. They do need a good deal of time in the humidor first. Seems like risky policy if there are seconds.

Not sure about CI but Cbid sells damaged cigars. I bought a lot of cigars on Cbid and some of the boxes would be opened and resealed with a sticker that said "opened for inspection". Everyone that was "opened for inspection" was filled with damaged cigars. It was like they took all the returns for cracked wrapper or stems breaking through the wrapper and put them into one box and sent it out hoping someone would not want to take the time to return it. I stopped doing business with Cbid, CI and all affiliated companies.

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Originally Posted by Trouble

Not sure about CI but Cbid sells damaged cigars. I bought a lot of cigars on Cbid and some of the boxes would be opened and resealed with a sticker that said "opened for inspection". Everyone that was "opened for inspection" was filled with damaged cigars. It was like they took all the returns for cracked wrapper or stems breaking through the wrapper and put them into one box and sent it out hoping someone would not want to take the time to return it. I stopped doing business with Cbid, CI and all affiliated companies.

I hope this isn't right, cause I have a box in the mail coming from Cbid... I recently ordered this: http://www.cigarsinternational.com/p...KASST21&cat=19 from CI and everything came in wonderful shape, but I realize the daily deals and auctions might be different.

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Hate to say this again if someone already has, but it is not uncommon in the industry today to
spray tobacco with tobacco juice and squeezins to get that consistent look of Maduro for that
which a precedent may have already been set. Maduro launch cigars may be one color, and the
next harvest's materials might not allow for the same color match, and the tobacco could be
sprayed. And it WILL come off on your fingers and lips. Per-DOH-mo cigars first real luxury line
was like this. The had a cigar called X that was a square pressed torpedo and at FIRST they
were great cigars. Then as time went by they just started SUCKING A$$. They were all treated
wrappers on the maduros. This is not the same as dying wrappers, but it IS really in the end. But
there is a great chance that the vendor has nothing to do with it.

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"And that covers everything from Padrons to Pirates" Well, to be honest, that's not a very big range, LOL.

[T.G]

Originally Posted by OLS

Hate to say this again if someone already has, but it is not uncommon in the industry today to
spray tobacco with tobacco juice and squeezins to get that consistent look of Maduro for that
which a precedent may have already been set. Maduro launch cigars may be one color, and the
next harvest's materials might not allow for the same color match, and the tobacco could be
sprayed. And it WILL come off on your fingers and lips. Per-DOH-mo cigars first real luxury line
was like this. The had a cigar called X that was a square pressed torpedo and at FIRST they
were great cigars. Then as time went by they just started SUCKING A$$. They were all treated
wrappers on the maduros. This is not the same as dying wrappers, but it IS really in the end. But
there is a great chance that the vendor has nothing to do with it.

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"And that covers everything from Padrons to Pirates" Well, to be honest, that's not a very big range, LOL.

Thanks Brad. I've gotten so sick of arguing what you just said with people that I don't even bother to mention it anymore.

I think the last time I mentioned it (on another forum) it went 140 someodd posts with people arguing back and forth over it. Everything from cheating to unnatural to trying to explain the differnces and why and if only people realized how many manufacturers did this, they'd probably change their tune or stop smoking maduros alltogether.

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Originally Posted by T.G

Thanks Brad. I've gotten so sick of arguing what you just said with people that I don't even bother to mention it anymore.

I think the last time I mentioned it (on another forum) it went 140 someodd posts with people arguing back and forth over it. Everything from cheating to unnatural to trying to explain the differnces and why and if only people realized how many manufacturers did this, they'd probably change their tune or stop smoking maduros alltogether.

, maybe people will stop smoking maduros and the price will come down for those of us that dont mind. Guess thats asking to much.

Originally Posted by OLS

"And that covers everything from Padrons to Pirates" Well, to be honest, that's not a very big range, LOL.

heh Could have put that better.

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Originally Posted by JohnCA

heh Could have put that better.

Yes, but when you thought "I won't DIGNIFY Acids with a mention", you did the right thing. And who knows
Zino cigars anymore? I think they still sell em.

Originally Posted by Trouble

Not sure about CI but Cbid sells damaged cigars. I bought a lot of cigars on Cbid and some of the boxes would be opened and resealed with a sticker that said "opened for inspection". Everyone that was "opened for inspection" was filled with damaged cigars. It was like they took all the returns for cracked wrapper or stems breaking through the wrapper and put them into one box and sent it out hoping someone would not want to take the time to return it. I stopped doing business with Cbid, CI and all affiliated companies.

That sucks man