2010 NFL Draft Thread

[forgop]

Seriously, do you have to knock a guy for being a well known Christian? It's one thing to evaluate his physical tools and ability to make it at the next level, but directing criticism or making a joke over his faith is weak IMO. In a world that lacks high character guys in professional sports and the corporate world, you'd think we'd be more happy to appreciate him on a personal level. It just shows how far we've fallen to resort to this level.

[King James]

Originally Posted by forgop

Seriously, do you have to knock a guy for being a well known Christian? It's one thing to evaluate his physical tools and ability to make it at the next level, but directing criticism or making a joke over his faith is weak IMO. In a world that lacks high character guys in professional sports and the corporate world, you'd think we'd be more happy to appreciate him on a personal level. It just shows how far we've fallen to resort to this level.

I had more typed out, but don't think its worth posting. So will just leave it as I agree with you

[BeerAdvocate]

Originally Posted by forgop

Seriously, do you have to knock a guy for being a well known Christian? It's one thing to evaluate his physical tools and ability to make it at the next level, but directing criticism or making a joke over his faith is weak IMO. In a world that lacks high character guys in professional sports and the corporate world, you'd think we'd be more happy to appreciate him on a personal level. It just shows how far we've fallen to resort to this level.

Couldnt have said it better.
I guess players that cheat on their wife, beat their girlfriend, have 7 kids with 7 different women, shoot up the club, smoke weed, and drink and drive make better stories!

[OLS]

Originally Posted by forgop

In a world that lacks high character guys in professional sports and the corporate world, you'd think we'd be more happy to appreciate him on a personal level. It just shows how far we've fallen to resort to this level.

That's because you relate religion with high character. So it would follow that you think people with No religious beliefs to be of low character? To me it shows how far Christianity has "fallen" in that believers continue to have a "we're right, you're wrong" mentality. How high in character do you think those Irish priests were? How high in character were Jim and Tammy? And these were people at the very top of the pile. And frankly the list goes ON AND ON. Sorry for offending you, but your argument is a little biased. People have been successfully making Tebow jokes for years and years. As for the actual sentiment, I think he is going to be fairly successful in the NFL. But religion, to me, is a highly sophisticated superstition. A money extraction device hiding behind the fear of a higher power.

And my goal is not to offend the religious. This is a free country, that I served to defend.
I welcome the fact that people can serve any god they wish, theoretically, in peace.
It binds communities together in a shared expectation of behavior and beliefs. But so does common sense and a general acceptance of right and wrong, acceptable and unacceptable behavior.

Mods, feel free to entirely delete this argument by me. But I was not making fun of his
religion, I was stating that I think that Tebow truly believes that his heavenly father will
intervene on his behalf.

[OLS]

I haven't had this much crap thrown since I rejoiced when he cried on the
sidelines after Alabama showed him how real football teams accomplish their
goals.

[King James]

Originally Posted by OLS

I haven't had this much crap thrown since I rejoiced when he cried on the
sidelines after Alabama showed him how real football teams accomplish their
goals.

now that was funny, and your second post clarifies your argument much better. However, my post was not in reference to you being offensive so no hard feelings

[OLS]

Originally Posted by King James

now that was funny, and your second post clarifies your argument much better. However, my post was not in reference to you being offensive so no hard feelings

And I def don't want to drag the thread down, this is not a religious thread. But I get raised hackles when the point is made in a certain way in my direction. Everyone knows I am an A-hole, we have established that long ago. But maybe now I see that raised hackles work both ways. I hate Tebow cause of the way he managed to escape countless opponents by miracles and still be part of the No.1 team. I rejoiced when his perspective was altered by the Tide.
As a NFL'er, I am part of the minority that thinks he is going to surprise alot of people.

[Kreth]

Originally Posted by OLS

As a NFL'er, I am part of the minority that thinks he is going to surprise alot of people.

I'm tempted to ask if you want to put a 5er where your mouth (keyboard?) is, but I don't know how we could quantify something like that (too many variables)...
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[OLS]

Excellent, back to football. You are right it would be hard to really fairly judge the results.
As for the measuring stick, I would say 'look at the man'. He is a big boy and will be playing with
big boys. At least for NOW, he has no fear it would seem. There might be mechanical problems,
but at the height of the arguments, I saw Tebow make the toughest throws there are with NO trouble.
They were on the 5 and everyone is thinking jump pass or something. He might have even faked
that throw, and then RIFLED the ball out to a sideline button hook right across the goal line.
Thrown PERFECTLY where no one could get it but his guy. Alot of people say that in FLA, all you have to
do is put the ball as far downfield as you can and let someone fast run under it. It WAS true. But
when Tebow has a throw to make, he usually makes it. And I hate him. People say wildcat this
and wildcat that, and they are right as far as it goes. But there are teams RIGHT NOW who could have
plenty of success with him, even under center. Granted, they would need a good O line to make it work
for a 16 game season, but if Tebow is the best you have, and in Denver, he might BE, I think they can
make it happen. And to be honest, EVERYBODY showed a little wildcat last year.