Behmor on the way

raisin · 02-14-2010, 11:27 AM

The problem with P1 is that it is too fast, and too hot. That's fine to time first crack, but then it will rush right up and into second crack. Professional advice holds that you want to stretch out this inter-crack period to some degree to develop and polish the better origin flavors. (2c and beyond is the standard "supermarket" heavy roast flavors that are base and common)
In P1 this inter-crack might last less than a minute, whereas 3-4 minutes would be much better, that is where P2 comes in with a temp drop. (if you can figure out the timing sweet spot)
Some will attempt this pause manually with P1 by opening the door briefly around 1c, to save doing the math, but this is not the best solution....

floydpink · 02-15-2010, 06:24 PM

I tried openeing the door at cooldown and noticed it sure makes the chaff fly.

After my 3rd roast, it seems like P2 is working best for me.

raisin · 02-15-2010, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by floydpink

I tried openeing the door at cooldown and noticed it sure makes the chaff fly.

My kitchen floor is never, ever truly chaff free...

but if you want to fight the tide, slide the chaff tray (old style is best) to the outer edge of the open door, it's a great backstop. I used to assist the cooling with a hair dryer on cool for the first few critical minutes. A dustbuster or a small shopvac makes clean-up easier, but refer back to my first sentence!

germantown rob · 02-21-2010, 08:50 AM

Pete, any further reports on your new toy?

Reading about your journey helps me forget the stress of house hunting, raising a 30 month old, and dealing with a 7 month pregnant wife

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floydpink · 02-21-2010, 11:18 AM

Yeah Rob,

I have been through 4 roasts and had a few challenges, but seem to be getting the hang of it.

The other night, I had an error come up and roaster stop. The cause was the drum not being squarely in the peg hole. The squeeking sound alerted me and it shut off. I tried to restart the machine and guess the temp requires it to cool down before restarting, so i lost a small batch.

I've been doing 10 oz batches with pretty good results and am documenting each roast with 1c times and other notes and rating the results in a log.

I have, so far, found that 10 oz batches on 1 pound, p2, c, settings are working best.

All in all, a longer learning curve than the freshroast, but having some experience helped a lot as the smells are more familiar to me and I know what is going on.

All the reviews I read about limited visiblity are not an issue with mine as it has the lower chaff collector and with the light on, it is a clear view of the process.

With the Freshroast, doing a few batches in a day to get my tin filled resulted in different roast results and with the Behmor, it is much more uniform and the longer roast profiles are a little better.

I'm glad my journey is relieving some stress for you and would like to invite you over for an espresso some time.

tedrodgerscpa · 02-21-2010, 11:49 AM

Great thread, all. I've been deliberating on buying a Behmor for quite some time, and I appreciate all of the advice in the thread.

floydpink · 02-21-2010, 04:30 PM

The Behmor is a great roaster but definitely has some little quirks to be aware of.

The ONE thing I would NEVER do with this guy is walk away from a roast.

Things start going quick once first crack starts and I like to push it to second crack which results in HEAVY smoke if you wait more than 10 seconds like they warn against. I could see a house burning down if you did this inside and forgot about the roaster.

Me; I sit on the patio, light a cigar and settle in for about 30 minutes of fun.

germantown rob · 02-22-2010, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by floydpink

Yeah Rob,

I have been through 4 roasts and had a few challenges, but seem to be getting the hang of it.

It becomes second nature with a few more roasts under your belt. A timer that counts upward is a nice add on to keep track of time in your notes. For the Iphone and Touch there is a roasting app I have come to like a lot even if I just use it for the timer and marking first crack. It is called RoastTimer.

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Originally Posted by floydpink

I'm glad my journey is relieving some stress for you and would like to invite you over for an espresso some time.

I have a feeling I will be in your neck of the woods in the not so distant future with my little Princess. She doesn't know about Disney World yet but I am sure by next winter she will be caught up on the Princess current events and she is very convincing for such a short person.

Then again maybe I will just go out one day for a pack of smokes and it will be at a store near you.

02-14-2010, 11:27 AM	#1
raisin Still Watching My Back Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 82 Trading: (0)	Re: Behmor on the way The problem with P1 is that it is too fast, and too hot. That's fine to time first crack, but then it will rush right up and into second crack. Professional advice holds that you want to stretch out this inter-crack period to some degree to develop and polish the better origin flavors. (2c and beyond is the standard "supermarket" heavy roast flavors that are base and common) In P1 this inter-crack might last less than a minute, whereas 3-4 minutes would be much better, that is where P2 comes in with a temp drop. (if you can figure out the timing sweet spot) Some will attempt this pause manually with P1 by opening the door briefly around 1c, to save doing the math, but this is not the best solution....

02-15-2010, 06:24 PM	#2
floydpink crazy diamond Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Pete Location: Orlando Posts: 1,955 Trading: (17)	Re: Behmor on the way I tried openeing the door at cooldown and noticed it sure makes the chaff fly. After my 3rd roast, it seems like P2 is working best for me. __________________ "If we weren't all crazy we would go insane"

02-21-2010, 08:50 AM	#4
germantown rob Still not Adjusted Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Rob Location: Philadelphia Posts: 330 Trading: (1)	Re: Behmor on the way Pete, any further reports on your new toy? Reading about your journey helps me forget the stress of house hunting, raising a 30 month old, and dealing with a 7 month pregnant wife .

02-21-2010, 11:18 AM	#5
floydpink crazy diamond Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Pete Location: Orlando Posts: 1,955 Trading: (17)	Re: Behmor on the way Yeah Rob, I have been through 4 roasts and had a few challenges, but seem to be getting the hang of it. The other night, I had an error come up and roaster stop. The cause was the drum not being squarely in the peg hole. The squeeking sound alerted me and it shut off. I tried to restart the machine and guess the temp requires it to cool down before restarting, so i lost a small batch. I've been doing 10 oz batches with pretty good results and am documenting each roast with 1c times and other notes and rating the results in a log. I have, so far, found that 10 oz batches on 1 pound, p2, c, settings are working best. All in all, a longer learning curve than the freshroast, but having some experience helped a lot as the smells are more familiar to me and I know what is going on. All the reviews I read about limited visiblity are not an issue with mine as it has the lower chaff collector and with the light on, it is a clear view of the process. With the Freshroast, doing a few batches in a day to get my tin filled resulted in different roast results and with the Behmor, it is much more uniform and the longer roast profiles are a little better. I'm glad my journey is relieving some stress for you and would like to invite you over for an espresso some time. __________________ "If we weren't all crazy we would go insane"

02-21-2010, 11:49 AM	#6
tedrodgerscpa Palmetto State Herf Crew! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Ted Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,712 Trading: (87)	Re: Behmor on the way Great thread, all. I've been deliberating on buying a Behmor for quite some time, and I appreciate all of the advice in the thread. __________________ Everyday I'm shufflin...

02-21-2010, 04:30 PM	#7
floydpink crazy diamond Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Pete Location: Orlando Posts: 1,955 Trading: (17)	Re: Behmor on the way The Behmor is a great roaster but definitely has some little quirks to be aware of. The ONE thing I would NEVER do with this guy is walk away from a roast. Things start going quick once first crack starts and I like to push it to second crack which results in HEAVY smoke if you wait more than 10 seconds like they warn against. I could see a house burning down if you did this inside and forgot about the roaster. Me; I sit on the patio, light a cigar and settle in for about 30 minutes of fun. __________________ "If we weren't all crazy we would go insane"