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Old 02-09-2010, 06:10 PM   #1
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Thanks for the quick reply. I did my best to address a few of the points you made below:

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Sounds like your amps are too much for the breaker...A couple of things you need to find out:

1. do you have modern circuit breakers or fuses. breakers
2. do you have a 100 amp or 200 amp circuit breaker 200
3. Add up all your breakers and make sure they do not go over the total amps for your service. gah? there are 5 breakers on the right side of the box that range from BR130-BR115. There's the main that looks like it says BR2000. We have a 220v outlet for an air conditioner that has it's own breaker and some others that I couldn't see well for the boiler and the outside lights etc.
4. If you have free breakers, move a few of the items to those breakers. I wouldn't know the first step in doing this, but would this be an easy thing for somebody who does?
5. If you do not have, try to balance out the load a little..once again, not anywhere near my level of understanding. Is it easy to tell what outlet goes to what wire?
6. Balance by taking high amp items (toaster over, microwave) and splitting them onto breakers that do not have as much of a load. Keeping in mind that a 10 amp breaker cannot take as much as a 20 amp (I know duh)

If you only have a 100 amp service, consider upgrading to a 200 amp service. can be done on your own for what 1000-2000 including all materials? Someone may have a better cost estimate.

Hope this helps
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Old 02-09-2010, 09:52 PM   #2
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Thanks for the quick reply. I did my best to address a few of the points you made below:

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Sounds like your amps are too much for the breaker...A couple of things you need to find out:

there are 5 breakers on the right side of the box that range from BR130-BR115. There's the main that looks like it says BR2000.
the BR 115 is a 15 amp breaker, the Br130 is a 30 amp breaker. The 30 amp is good for items that draw a lot of current like microwaves, heaters, toaster ovens. It will depend on what the items uses for amperage as to how many you can put on that breaker. The 15 am should be for outlets and lower amp stuff that plugs into them. Typically this is not needed but you are having issues with breakers tripping so they are becoming overloaded and you need to find it you can manage what you have better

The balance comes from mapping what goes to each breaker, determining what amperage each item uses (internet search or owners manual) and arranging them so they are all placed to utilize the available amperage without overloading them.

The Br2000 - I could not find any information, could it be a BR 2020 (twin pole 20 amp 120/240v)

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We have a 220v outlet for an air conditioner that has it's own breaker and some others that I couldn't see well for the boiler and the outside lights etc.
4. If you have free breakers, move a few of the items to those breakers. I wouldn't know the first step in doing this, but would this be an easy thing for somebody who does?
very easy, once the wires are identified, unscrew them from the breaker and move them to the other breaker. You can shut off one of the mains if you feel uncomfortable doing this while it is energized.

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5. If you do not have, try to balance out the load a little..once again, not anywhere near my level of understanding. Is it easy to tell what outlet goes to what wire?
They sell equipment (cheap) that you can plug into the outlet and then it will emit a signal that you can trace at the breaker box. Or you can pop the breaker off and see what does not run any more. If more than one item on that breaker, replace one at a time, turn on the breaker, lable the wires, and repeat until you know what they all are.


also try reading this and see if it helps at all...http://electronics.howstuffworks.com...it-breaker.htm
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Old 02-10-2010, 05:57 AM   #3
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Thank you so much! I'm going to open the box up this weekend and poke around. I hope it's 1/4 as easy as you make it sound.
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Old 02-10-2010, 06:37 AM   #4
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Thank you so much! I'm going to open the box up this weekend and poke around. I hope it's 1/4 as easy as you make it sound.
It really is super easy.
That said, don't mess with it. Take pics and have the guys look at it.
On top of load, you have to consider wire weight, or the type/size of wire pulled throughout the house. For some reason, nowadays they pull 14 and 16 guage wire in houses, or have in the past. Why anyone would do that is beyond me, because it saves about 5 bucks on a job, but it happens.
Odds are that your overloaded circuit is tripping because of wire size and not overload at the breaker.
The best way to take care of it is to move the heaters off that circuit with the microwave and heavy load stuff.
I wired this whole house when I remodeled it about 10 years ago. I pulled 12 wire everywhere. Despite that, I overload this circuit where my computer, fish tank, microwave and a million other things are. I put the dining room on the same circuit as the kitchen because I have an old breaker box with discontinued super expensive breakers.
It was a good idea until I moved in here and plugged the whole world into one circuit.
Just blew the breaker yesterday while I was warming my coffee in the microwave and had a space heater plugged in at my desk. The space heater is just one appliance too much.
Your other (maybe not so) obvious option is to unplug the microwave. That way you'll know to turn off the heater before you use it, and no more crawling under the house.
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